minutes of ESC call ...
Michael Meeks
michael.meeks at suse.com
Thu Feb 21 08:00:28 PST 2013
* Present:
+ Andras, Joel, Thorsten, Stephan, Michael S, Markus,
Michael M, Bjoern, Petr, Cedric, Norbert, Astron, Lionel
* Completed Action Items
+ push updated branding for 4.0.1 RC1; send TDF branded
versions out to ESC list (Astron)
+ get LotusLive / CMIS fixes in (need review) (Michael)
+ gerrit messaging politeness improvements (Norbert)
+ 32bit and 64bit RHEL5 tinderboxen setup (Caolan)
+ create/request mail alias for certification (Bjoern)
+ poke marketing wrt. announcing dis-continuation of 3.5.x (Petr)
+ check RHEL5 dbus-glib / bluez bits for bluetooth (Caolan)
* Pending Action Items
+ tweak default assignee / mail alias to include 'un-assigned@' (Joel)
+ ping Marc wrt. creatign a page with certified consultants in
alphabetical order with rates etc. (Joel)
+ poke docs team wrt. writing off-line help for impress-remote (Thorsten)
+ Bugzilla attachments not set to autodetect (Bjoern)
+ sent to Tollef - who is deadly busy just now.
** + Update gsoc ideas page
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Gsoc/Ideas (all)
+ everybody should update their their tasks and add new ones
+ full-word selection / editing ergonomics cf. UX-advise
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46517
+ pending input from Caolan / Cedric / Michael S
+ disable Rhino / Beanshell unless in experimental mode (Michael M)
+ minimal triage for good mentors for proposed easy hacks (Bjoern)
+ Ubuntu font licensing questions, clarify at Canonical (Bjoern)
+ helping out with code-pointers for UI bugs (Kendy)
+ reviewed them with Mirek in person, pointers pending
+ http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-ux-advise/2013-February/001817.html
+ on-line update tweaks (Kendy)
=> upgrade everything to 3.6.5
=> upgrade all 3.*.0 -> 4.0.0
* Release Engineering update (Petr)
+ 4.0.1 rc1 status
+ builds are available / heading to mirrors
+ lots of issues fixed.
+ deadline for rc2 is Monday ...
+ 3.6.6 rc1 commit deadline 1 month out: Monday Mar 18
* UX input (Astron)
+ new icon set discussion ongoing
+ new icon for impress remote under discussion
AI: + look at gradient / clipart issues (Michael)
+ kendy on FTO wrt. UX easy hacks.
* GSOC 2013 (Cedric)
+ April 8th deadline
+ Please update the great ideas page at that date:
+ https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Gsoc/Ideas
* Coverity reports (Markus)
+ we have a nice report to work through; register:
http://scan.coverity.com/user_register.html
project: LibreOffice
+ and send your account details to Markus / Norbert.
+ already fixed a lot of issues, but plenty more to go
+ Markus up-loads builds regularly
+ false positives can be flagged, please update the
tool with issue status (Norbert)
* Automated crash on import test results (Markus)
+ found a nasty toolchain bug on SLES11 (thanks Stephan)
+ issues with libunordflo loading in dbgutil builds
AI: + look into it before publishing updated stats (Michael S)
+ 1 day for writer files, 16 hours for calc files,
adding impress files: > 2.5 days
+ WIP to integrate this with Jenkins & graphing (Norbert)
* Proposal to rework packaging, now that gbuild is ~done (Bjoern)
+ push to the list for discussion
+ kills solver (and links directly in WORKDIR)
+ kills solenv/bin/modules, and much of scp2
+ concerns about platform-dependent / windows MSI hierarchies & extensions
proposal/WiP:
https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/2298/
+ Tor is doing a complementary re-work for Mac pkg structure
* progress on ns Date / timestamp issue (Lionel)
AI: + continue discussion & come to a conclusion (Stephan/Lionel/Thorsten)
* Certification Program (Stephan/Kendy/Bjoern)
+ purpose of it ? (Joel)
+ encourage users to pay for support from certified (active,
contributing) developers & companies.
+ next step - send lots of beautiful invitation letters.
* Hard Hacks:
+ http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/HardHacks
fdo#37580 - Assign layout malfunction and crash on slide with formula
fdo#59259 - With some master pages, freezes when try to print
fdo#59932 - FILEOPEN: Text boxes with bulleted lists containing wrapped text ...
fdo#48039 - Cross-references disrupted in Master Document
fdo#40594 - FILEOPEN .docx (MSO2010) does not show CHART object
* QA update (Joel)
+ list of unconfirmed 4.0 bugs is going up - currently 150
despite the focused hard work of the QA team on these
+ ignoring old 2011 bugs for now
+ does BSA offer some bugs to triage / check ? (Michael)
+ yes, but only a small link at the bottom
+ large proportion of bugs coming in through the BSA
+ stats to follow.
+ QA getting more switched-on to the 'regression' keyword
+ poking at writer regressions (Michael S)
+ a good number in NEEDINFO state
+ some are not regressions some are
+ lots of issues in docx import
+ quality of regression bugs decreased (Markus)
+ poke at history and ping if QA marked in error (Joel)
+ help is needed with triagging the following bugs:
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?emailtype1=exact&query_format=advanced&emailassigned_to1=1&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=REOPENED&version=4.0.0.0.alpha0%2B%20Master&version=4.0.0.0.alpha1&version=4.0.0.0.beta1&version=4.1.0.0.alpha0%2B%20Master&version=4.0.0.0.beta2&version=4.0.0.1%20rc&version=4.0.0.2%20rc&email1=libreoffice-bugs%40lists.freedesktop.org&product=LibreOffice&list_id=221457
* Open 4.1 MAB / regressions
+ 1 (of 2) older 3/3
+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=60270&hide_resolved=1
* Open 4.0 MAB / regressions
+ 15 (of 96) older 16/94 16/91 13/79 17/76 10/69 14/64 13/48 13/41 9/34 10/34
16% 17% 18% 22% 22% 14% 22% 27% 32% 26% 29%
+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=54157&hide_resolved=1
* 3.6 most annoying bugs ...
+ 76 (of 210) older 57/189 44/175 45/175 43/174 42/173 36/166 37/164 34/160
36% 30% 25% 25% 25% 24% 22% 23% 21%
+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=44446&hide_resolved=1
* 3.5 most annoying bugs ...
+ 0 (of 221) older 28/247 47/264 47/264 48/265 49/266 49/266 50/266 54/268
0% 11% 18% 18% 18% 18% 18% 19% 20%
+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=37361&hide_resolved=1
+ last week: this series is retired ...
* Bibisected bugs open: whiteboard 'bibsected'
+ 48 (of 137) older 49/133 47/131 45/126 42/117 40/114 43/110
+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?f1=status_whiteboard&list_id=204265&o1=substring&resolution=---&query_format=advanced&v1=bibisected&product=LibreOffice
* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
+ 295(+25) bugs open of 1301(+43) total
* ~Component count net *
+ Writer - 104 (+11)
+ Presentation - 33 (+3)
+ Spreadsheet - 32 (+4)
+ LibreOffice - 25 (+6)
+ Crashes - 23 (+2)
+ Database - 21 (+1)
+ Drawing - 15 (-2)
+ Borders - 12 (+1)
+ Migration - 5 (+0)
+ Basic - 2 (+0)
+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=regression%2C%20&keywords_type=allwords&resolution=---&query_format=advanced&product=LibreOffice&list_id=36764
+ Migration: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=43489&hide_resolved=1
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