Google; OOXML and ODF support wrt XSLX import/export filter funding

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
Moving away from MS formats seems a pretty smart move around now.  There are so many different versions of XlsX (2007's version, 2010's and now presumably 2013's).  


I thought Keith's post was interesting because it seems people have spent some serious money just to find out what we already felt was the case.  I think Google still are a supporter of TDF but seem to have lost their way a bit.  

Regards from
Tom :)  





>________________________________
> From: Keith Curtis <keithcu at gmail.com>
>To: Zeki Bildirici <zeki at ozgurlukicin.com> 
>Cc: marketing at global.libreoffice.org 
>Sent: Tuesday, 5 March 2013, 22:50
>Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Google and ODF support!
> 
>That is amazing. Google wrote this in their analysis of OpenXML:
>(https://forums.scc.ca/forums/scc/dispatch.cgi/public/showFile/100294/d20070705225348/No/objections%20by%20Google.pdf)
>-----
>"Although OOXML may formally comply with Ecma, it was clearly not
>designed with an “open” spirit. Comparing the current with the future
>situation, interoperability is likely to become more difficult instead
>of easier. The implementation of a fully compatible ODF importer (the
>current efforts regarding .doc and .xls) is not an easy task, but it
>is dwarfed by the implementation of a fully compatible OOXML importer,
>which we estimate to take something between 50 – 500 person years, or
>even longer. Therefore, although it is theoretically possible to
>generate an OOXML document, this document will probably only use a
>very small subset of the standard.
>In sum, OOXML can be compared to Microsoft giving access to a
>labyrinth to which it alone owns a map; moreover, certain tunnels
>within this labyrinth are not accessible without a key that only
>Microsoft has, and that third parties would need to replicate first.
>(And, in doing so, these third parties would not know whether they
>would violate any rights that exposes them to litigation)."
>-----
>
>It is sort of sad Google would reverse course and act against their
>own interests. Also, I wonder why they didn't help to port LibreOffice
>rather than buying QuickOffice. The current Android efforts in
>LibreOffice are less than one person I believe. Imagine what Google
>could have done with 5-10, let alone buying the proprietary
>QuickOffice which employed 400 people.
>(http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/2018361838_apustecgoogleofficeapps1stldwritethru.html)
>I suspect part of their decision was that they didn't want to take a
>risk on "LibreOffice", but it does seem they have too much money.
>
>-Keith
>
>On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 1:38 PM, Zeki Bildirici <zeki at ozgurlukicin.com> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> As you know Google currently is not supporting Open Document Format
>> native in its services. Today i saw this article
>> http://www.muktware.com/4529/why-google-killing-open-document-formats#.UTYr7U44lHE.twitter
>> and remembered this issue.
>>
>> This article explains the situation quite well. I don't know the
>> reason why Google does not support ODF, maybe it was discussed here
>> before. But i think we may try to push Google to support ODF.
>>
>> I don't think there is a reasonable explanation for ignoring ODF and
>> supporting MS Office formats and forcing people to convert their ODF
>> to Google Docs format.
>>
>> Btw for comparasion, -yes not Skydrive of course- Yandex company with
>> growing popularity in Turkey and Russia supports ODF in its Disk
>> service. It may be an example for good aproach to ODF.
>>
>> What do you think about Google's positioning for ODF? Can we manage to
>> force/attract Google to support ODF? I've mentioned and asked
>> htps://twitter.com/cdibona about this matter but no replies yet
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Zeki
>>
>>
>> - http://support.google.com/drive/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=2423485
>>
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