Minutes of ESC call

Jan Holesovsky kendy at suse.cz
Thu Mar 21 09:28:51 PDT 2013


Present: Eike, Kendy, Petr, Astron, Kohei, Eilidh, Cedric, Fridrich, Stephan

* Completed Action Items
	+ none :-(

* Pending Action Items
        + Bugzilla attachments not set to autodetect (Bjoern)
                + [ pinging Tollef ]
        + disable Rhino / Beanshell unless in experimental mode (Michael M)
        + look at gradient / clipart issues (Michael)
        + helping out with code-pointers for UI bugs (Kendy)
                + [ still pending ]
        + SLES11 / temporary PTF for the server ? using SP3 toolchain ? (Kendy)
                [ pending new packages ]
        + need design for copying styles between templates (Astron/UX)
                + either in that dialog or a new dialog
                + also issue with only editing templates that are
                  in the mgr
        + decided: change the default install directory to
          'LibreOffice 4' on master (Pmladek)
        + instead have the global headers in one central global directory
                + check behaviour of git-cherry-pick
                + write up for the mailing list (Bjoern)
                        + find out how other big projects:
                          Mozilla, linux, etc. do this
        + buy build hardware (Thorsten)

* GSOC applications now open (Cedric)
        Page needs updating by 28th Mar.
        https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Gsoc/Ideas
                + UX improvements eg. themes support there ?

	+ Fridrich applied, now waiting for Google to decide
		+ we will know at April 8th

	+ please update the GSoC ideas with code pointers
AI		+ Grab Kendy on IRC + file UX ideas together (Astron)

* Dresden Impress Sprint (Thorsten)
        + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Events/ImpressSprint2013

* Release Engineering update (Petr)
        + 4.0.2 rc1 - any regressions ?
		+ Petr not aware of any
        + 4.0.2 rc2 deadline - March 25th
        + 3.6.6 rc1 commit deadline - next Monday (18th)
		+ ready, on mirrors
	+ 3.6.6 rc2 deadline - April 2nd

* UX input (Astron)
	+ GSoC - with Kendy
AI	+ Personas - moving to different URL (Kendy)
	+ Color picker / themes - not much new
	+ Website colors / branding
AI	+ Icons for Lionel + template manager is not done yet (Astron/UX)

* Coverity progress (Markus/Julien/Norbert/Caolan)
        + work ongoing, going well.

* Automated crash on import test results (Markus)
        + still suffering memory corruptions, another reliability
          bug elsewhere, nasties ...

* Certification Program (Stephan/Kendy/Bjoern)
        + website update
		+ pending on website team
	+ sent the list of new Certified Devs to Italo

* Hard Hacks:
        + http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/HardHacks
                + three open slots still.
        + thanks to Markus for fdo#61025
        + plan to have 2 writer, 1 spread, 1 draw/impress etc.
        fdo#40594 - FILEOPEN .docx (MSO2010) does not show CHART object (Michael)
        fdo#59932 - FILEOPEN: Text boxes with bulleted lists containing (Muthu)

	+ 2 new hardhacks assigned, 1 pending:
	fdo#60922 - FILEOPEN, FILESAVE create document as odt, save as docx , corrupts (Miklos)
	fdo#62116 - FILEOPEN .ods created with LibO 3.6: Link behind text lost (Kohei)
	fdo#38147 - FILESAVE File Sharing Password protected MS Word document no longer editable after reopen (NOT ASSIGNED)

* Kill include guards in .hxx, and use #pragma once instead
        + makes the headers nicer
        + the benchmark available on the net seems to suggest it speeds
          up MSVC
        + Lubos' test seems to suggest that there is ~no difference for
          gcc
	+ consensus: let's just do it after 4.0.2 is out

* QA update (Joel)
        + 140 unconfirmed vs. 4.0, help appreciated with triage.
                http://tinyurl.com/a3csc2o (cf. topic in #libreoffice-qa)

	+ BSA has now French version
		+ such bugs go to the French ML first, they'll translate them to
		  English & file

* Open 4.1 MAB / regressions
        + 5 (of 10) older 4/8 4/8 2/5 1/2 3/3
        + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=60270&hide_resolved=1

* Open 4.0 MAB / regressions
        + 19 (of 109) older 19/106 17/105 14/99 15/96 16/94 16/91 13/79 17/76 10/69
             18%             18%    16%    14%   16%   17%   18%   22%   22%   14%
        + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=54157&hide_resolved=1

* 3.6 most annoying bugs ...
        + 78 (of 217) older 77/215 77/214 75/211 76/210 57/189 44/175 45/175 43/174
             36%             36%    36%    36%    36%    30%    25%    25%    25%
        + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=44446&hide_resolved=1

* Bibisected bugs open: whiteboard 'bibsected'
        + 25 (of 78) older 29/78 32/79 27/72
        + re-built the query to avoid pre bibisected mess
                http://bit.ly/VQfF3Q

* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
        + 292(+3) bugs open of 1386(+18) total

        * ~Component   count net *
        + Writer       - 98 (+2)
        + LibreOffice  - 29 (+1)
        + Spreadsheet  - 28 (+4)
        + Presentation - 28 (+0)
        + Database     - 23 (+0)
        + Drawing      - 20 (-1)
        + Crashes      - 20 (-1)
        + Borders      - 15 (+0)
        + Migration    -  5 (+0)
        + Basic        -  2 (+0)

        + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=regression%2C%20&keywords_type=allwords&resolution=---&query_format=advanced&product=LibreOffice&list_id=36764
        + Migration: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=43489&hide_resolved=1



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