minutes of ESC call ...
Michael Meeks
michael.meeks at collabora.com
Thu Nov 14 08:27:32 PST 2013
* Present:
+ Markus, Caolan, Norbert, Lionel, Thorsten, Michael M, Eike, David,
Michael S, Bjoern, Robinson, Andras, Miklos, Kendy, Stephan, Kohei
Tor, cloph, Ahmad
* Completed Action Items:
+ poke at cross-compile pieces without INPATH (Tor)
[ inpath removal merged ]
+ make firebird conditional on 'experimental' setting (Lionel)
+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/70703
+ Java-free (Firebird?) reproduction case (Lionel)
+ valgrind trace (Lionel)
+ get setup wrt. mobile app-store access (Cloph / Thorsten)
[ Apple / iOS is handed over, think Cloph has credentials for
Android - if not poke Florian ]
+ provide certification details to accelerate progress (Bjoern/Stephan)
* Pending Action Items:
+ New templates (Ahmad)
[ code is ready, will be merged by Monday ]
+ produce a VM with callgrind metrics (Matus)
[ VM is setup & running, needs to get access -> Matus,
on same machine as the crash-test farm ]
+ partition document test loads / run them on tinderboxen (Norbert)
[ ongoing work on the python bits ]
+ poke at Android / iOS remote-control translation issues (Andras)
[ found the issue, know how to fix it - fix pending ]
+ blog about the death of the solver (Michael S)
[ still no blog for mst ]
+ mail Charles wrt. website / code-finding concerns: want a cgit link nearby (Tibby)
+ need design for copying styles between templates (Cor Nouws/other UX?)
cf. http://www.mail-archive.com/libreoffice-ux-advise@lists.freedesktop.org/msg01658.html
http://www.mail-archive.com/libreoffice-ux-advise@lists.freedesktop.org/msg01663.html
* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
+ 4.1.4 RC1 - November 25th
+ 4.2 Alpha 1 status
+ already released, on dev-builds website & announced to the testing ML etc.
+ Beta 1 - a bigger announcement.
+ 4.2 Feature freeze is Nov 18th.
+ next week / Monday
+ at-risk items for 4.2
+ IAccessible2 - David trying to get something in for the 4.2 branch
+ track-changes toolbar: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=47677
[ merged, needs some new artwork ]
+ new charting pieces (Markus)
[ at risk for 4.2 freeze ]
+ expert config page - still ~infinitely slow needs fixing
[ really need a callgrind profile of some sort ]
AI: + create a 4.2 MAB and attach a callgrind profile.
[ is this related to a11y being enabled ? (mst) ]
[ if so need a MANAGES_DESENDANTS tweak for that (Michael) ]
+ sifr icons (Ahmad)
+ theme already in for 4.2 - more artwork coming after the freeze
+ 4.2 MAB count ...
+ gerrit backlog: 50+ patches
+ GSOC / Android & iOS remote control releases from master update
* New commit access proposals (Miklos)
+ Adam Fyne
+ Andres Gomez
+ Jacobo Aragunde Pérez
+ Miguel Gomez
AI: + write welcome mail (Miklos)
+ please review / push other's gerrit commits
+ seek input / review if in any doubt
AI: + send E-mail addresses to Norbert (Miklos)
AI: + poke Igalians about attending ESC (Michael)
* Gerrit backlog (Bjoern)
+ more people with git push access may help
+ Miklos working on reviewing writer patches
+ some of the patches already have comments asking for more work, but no '-1'
+ less than 50 patches
+ https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/q/status:open+project:core+branch:master+-label:CodeReview%253C%253D-1+-label:Verified%253C%253D-1,p,0028eb44000019c3
+ if all ESC members review 2x patches all should be well.
* Performance
+ Journalist cannot actually reproduce slower start from article, no measured disparity
+ turn on mergedlibs & LTO for Windows - any objections ? (Michael)
AI: + turn on & see how it goes for 4.2 (Tor)
+ Thanks to Jesus for offering to review vs. 2010
+ mail merge:
+ AFAIK Pierre-Eric had a rough look at that already
* Crashtest update (Markus)
+ cf. http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/crashtest/
+ need to do a new build / but build-issues in the VM
* INPATH removal (Michael S)
+ reminder to people to rm -Rf workdir/unxlngi6.pro ? ;-)
+ otherwise you'll chew a huge amount of disk-space.
AI: + tinderbox admins - should clean their disks too, and
update to the very latest tinbuild2 script to get
up-loads right.
+ windows + Mac already fixed by Cloph
+ inpath fixed for Mac by Norbert too.
* l10n package split building in 4.2 (Bjoern)
+ A heads up, I'd like to push in:
https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/6660/
+ shouldn't break anything; sorts work into l10n vs. non-l10n
build bits, to allow parallel building of l10n thus splitting
the work / disk-space requirements (also: e.g. security fixes
without rebuilding and redistributing all l10n)
* Certification progress (Kendy/Bjoern/Stephan)
+ consensus / approved all proposed candidates.
* Bugzilla attachment mis-categorisation (Michael S)
+ tons have a broken mime-type, cf. type churn from dtardon/mst
+ lots of text/plain even though they are binary documents.
+ auto-detection for mime-types was disabled in bugzilla for a
period of time - until Tollef re-enabled for LibreOffice (Markus)
+ a historical problem; could have a script to fix all of these,
but it would spam ~everyone in the world.
+ looking at the docs manually (Michael S)
+ accidentally stumble upon non-integrated patches too.
* QA update (Robinson)
+ Rob is working on automated stats collection & presentation.
+ if developers want some stats from bugzilla - can you
mail the QA list with suggestions.
+ weekly 'need_advice' bug ping for help:
+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=59125
+ "VIEWING: Characters are shown multiple times when using line breaks"
+ We're having trouble reproducing this issue, but do have a
screenshot showing the problem.
+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=64499
"Goalseek does not get answer although Excel has no problem on same sheet saved in xls format"
+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
+157 -111 (+46 overall)
+ QA triagers report TDF Tinderboxen (Win, Mac, Linux) were not
uploading daily builds for a few days (45, 46, 47, 48)
(also non-TDF tb-39, 42)
+ fixed Tinderbox 39 (Kendy)
+ other tinderboxes seem to be fixed as of now.
+ also needs latest tinbuild for instdir fix (Cloph)
+ Can we script to catch tinderboxes that are not up-loading (Robinson)
+ could be possible, and can mail authors (Cloph)
+ hard to know if tinderbox is deliberately not up-loading (Cloph)
+ every tinderbox has an E-mail address for maintainer in the log (Thorsten)
+ QA are encouraged to just poke them if not up-loading
+ dmg change: distro-config updated by Stephan (Norbert)
+ if tinderbox using distro-config, would have got the right thing
+ if not using distro-config - prolly should to avoid breakage.
+ Bugzilla migration is coming along well
+ https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Bugzilla/LibreOffice_Bugzilla_Proposal
+ ETA is ~Q1 2014
+ Tollef working on it wrt. setting up a KVM VM & services & cloning the DB,
+ step #1 - keeps bugzilla on freedesktop infrastructure.
many thanks to the top bug squashers:
Jean-Baptiste Faure 13
sophie 9
Maxim 9
Eike Rathke 6
Urmas 6
Julien Nabet 5
Caolán McNamara 5
tommy27 4
Joel Madero 4
bfoman 4
[ punted until next time]
* automated code re-formatting / de-crustification (Kendy)
* Next large-scale cleanup targets (Kendy)
* Base issue 70703 (Lionel)
+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/70703
* QA stats:
* Open 4.2 MAB
+ 7/18 5/16 5/15 5/14 4/13 6/13 4/10 2/8 1/6 1/6 2/6 5/6
+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=65675
* Open 4.1 MAB
+ 28/119 27/118 8/116 21/106 20/103 18/100 17/99 15/96 14/93
24% 23% 24% 20% 19% 18% 17% 16% 15%
+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=60270&hide_resolved=1
* Open 4.0 MAB
+ 57/204 53/200 54/200 55/200 57/200 56/198 58/198 56/195 54/193
28% 27% 27% 28% 29% 29% 29% 29% 28%
+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=54157&hide_resolved=1
* Bibisected bugs open: whiteboard 'bibsected'
+ 48/162 49/160 49/158 40/148 38/146 36/144 35/143 34/142 34/141
+ http://bit.ly/VQfF3Q
* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
+ 335(-1) bugs open of 2084(+8) total
* ~Component count net *
Writer - 101 (+1)
Spreadsheet - 45 (+0)
Libreoffice - 35 (-1)
Presentation - 26 (+0)
Crashes - 23 (+2)
Database - 18 (-2)
Drawing - 17 (+1)
Borders - 17 (+0)
BASIC - 5 (+0)
Migration - 3 (+0)
+ http://bit.ly/15mM2Yn - for devs ( no NEEDINFO / UNCONFIRMED )
+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=regression%2C%20&keywords_type=allwords&resolution=---&query_format=advanced&product=LibreOffice&list_id=36764
+ Migration: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=43489&hide_resolved=1
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