minutes of ESC call ...
michael.meeks at collabora.com
Thu Sep 19 08:16:18 PDT 2013
* Present: Stephan, Robinson, Cloph, Eike, Andras, Caolan, Kendy,
Kohei, Markus, Michael M, Tibby, Miklos, Cedric, Norbert,
* Completed Action Items
+ update the wiki / ESC list (Michael)
+ help out code-search student (Michael)
+ come up with a proposal on what still needs improving in sidebar land (Cor)
[ in discussion on the list ]
+ poke Julian & Ivan to join an ESC call sometime (Caolan)
+ forward Florian R's Server Installation GUI paper to Thorsten (Florian E)
* Pending Action Items:
+ switch to pure sidebar mode in master - but not enabled by
default, except in Impress (Caolan)
[ in progress ]
+ push new default templates in & fix if necessary (Ahmad)
+ get kendy ssh access to production gerrit (Norbert)
* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
+ 4.1.2 RC2 status
+ up-loaded to pre-release area
+ RC2 can be announced tomorrow
+ release scheduled during the conference.
+ 4.1.1 retrospective
+ new version was pushed with an MSVC fix.
+ next week: conference, no freeze deadlines.
+ 4.0.6 RC1 - week after the conference Sept 30th.
+ all going well, adjust some timings around release
announcements for marketing, but otherwise ok.
* face-to-face ESC meeting at the conference
+ topics appreciated for that:
+ ABI / QA / Metrics / Testing / Release
+ round-robin: what we're working on & concerns.
+ build-baseline, release and SDK (Norbert)
+ mail/gerrit/firehose discussion (Bjoern)
+ bibisect expansion / discussion
* GSOC update (Cedric)
+ students should be working on writing up as of now etc.
+ assessments open on Monday (evening Europan time): 23rd
+ open until Friday.
+ lock mentors in a room at the conference util
they have filed
+ need them filled out to get to the Mentor summit
AI: + send small summary statements wrt. GSOC work - model is:
* Solver killing (Matus / Michael S)
+ most of the difficult work is done
+ now only one copy of dynamic libraries & executables in instdir
+ already working on Linux
+ working on static libraries
+ should save a chunk of size in the build-tree
+ around 4-5Gb if built with debug in the solver
+ always used to store it twice -> the solver
+ with instdir - store it 3x
+ will get it down to just once.
+ fixing library search path, so layer of link target is right
+ so can't link an extension vs. comphelper anymore
+ still some bits left in the solver
+ hopefully not as difficult to remove.
+ can we simplify scp2 bits a lot ? (Michael M)
+ no impact yet, but could be simplified a lot.
+ Thanks to Michael S, Matus & all the gnumake guys.
* QA update (Robinson)
+ noticed a couple of people CC'ing developers on bugs (Joel)
+ been an issue in the past - what's the story now
+ sberg - likes to be CC'd on bugs
+ moggi - thinks it is quite helpful
+ kohei - turned off CC notifications, so it's fine.
+ vmiklos - likes to see certain bugs
+ feel free to bug Robinson/Joel if you don't want to get CC'd
now and then.
+ only use for MABs / important ones (Michael M)
+ concern wrt. unconfirmed bug counts (Bjoern)
+ would like to reduce under 1000 at least
discuss at the conference (Robinson)
+150 -83 (+67 overall)
many thanks to the top six bug squashers:
Caolán McNamara 6
Cor Nouws 5
Lionel Elie Mamane 5
+ recruiting QA triage guys going well (Robinson)
+ should we have a top confirmers stat ? (Michael)
+ bit tough to work out the top triagers
+ can build some perl to dump that here if someone can come up
with a query (Michael M)
* Duplicated binary .doc filter (Miklos)
+ one from the dawn of time, and another in writerfilter
+ designed for code sharing initially
+ already quite a chunk of code-sharing between .doc and .docx
+ does anyone think writerfilter based .doc import should stay around ?
+ project a failure, going no-place (Caolan)
+ original plan - take working filter, and get everything to use it
+ convinced new filter will never go anywhere.
=> remove with prejudice.
+ tries to avoid MS interop issues (Michael S)
+ if we had someone with time, it would be good, but ...
+ no objection to removing it.
+ support from kendy
AI: + remove the obsolete code (Miklos)
* Lots of small patches in gerrit (Caolan)
+ Needing review, for 4.1 etc.
+ poking at the word import issus (Miklos)
+ otherwise help appreciated.
* bibisect staleness (Caolan)
+ makes it harder to fix master bugs
+ machine got stuck at Canonical, Bjoern chasing.
+ should get our own TDF / bibisect running
AI: + investigate tinderbox -> bibisect work (Cloph / Bjoern / Norbert)
+ needs either a big machine to compress it, or lots of disk (Norbert)
+ we already up-load binaries - can't we re-use these (Michael M)
+ chat more next week in Milan (Norbert/etc.)
+ Bjorn has a script he's working on here.
+ problem is hosting the big repo in public (Cloph)
+ Miklos has a personal bibisect repo he can share in Milan
one build per day, saves the dbgutil build each morning (Miklos)
+ Windows bibisect repo really important too (Markus)
+ 38,39,42 tinderboxes in parallel - could use Markus' to
* Open 4.2 MAB
+ 1/6 1/6 2/6 5/6 5/6 6/6 7/7 2/2 2/2 1/1
* Open 4.1 MAB
+ 14/93 12/91 14/91 17/89 15/85 15/81 13/77 8/68 11/64 3/55 7/52
15% 13% 15% 19% 18% 19% 17% 12% 17% 5% 14%
* Open 4.0 MAB
+ 54/193 55/194 52/183 50/180 52/180 44/171 32/157 14/138 13/137 12/137 12/135
28% 29% 28% 28% 29% 26% 20% 10% 9% 9% 9%
* Bibisected bugs open: whiteboard 'bibsected'
+ 34/141 34/140 35/140 36/167 37/137 41/137 33/128 33/125 34/124
* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
+ 367(+19) bugs open of 2007(+31) total
* ~Component count net *
Writer - 103 (+4)
Spreadsheet - 51 (+6)
Libreoffice - 44 (+3)
Presentation - 34 (+2)
Crashes - 30 (+5)
Database - 20 (-1)
Drawing - 18 (+1)
Borders - 17 (+0)
Migration - 3 (+0)
BASIC - 2 (+0)
+ http://bit.ly/15mM2Yn - for devs ( no NEEDINFO / UNCONFIRMED )
+ Migration: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=43489&hide_resolved=1
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