minutes of ESC call ...

Michael Meeks michael.meeks at collabora.com
Wed Feb 19 11:40:13 CET 2014


Apologies - I completely forgot to send this last week:

* Present:
    + Cedric, David, Andras, Christian, Astron, Markus, Michael M, Miklos,
      Lionel, Stephan, Caolan, Kendy, Adam, Bjoern, Jacobo, Tor
 
* Completed Action Items
    + add slides to https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Events/Fosdem2014/talks
        [ volunteer to add thumbnails appreciated ;-].
 
* Pending Action Items:
    + GSOC mentors - prune / remove already done ideas from each side (All)
    + need design for copying styles between templates (Cor Nouws/other UX?)
        cf. http://www.mail-archive.com/libreoffice-ux-advise@lists.freedesktop.org/msg01658.html
            http://www.mail-archive.com/libreoffice-ux-advise@lists.freedesktop.org/msg01663.html
        [ Astron made mockup, discussed with Cor, but not published yet ]
    + look into non-functioning 'install' button in update dialog (Kendy / Andras)
        [ Kendy has security concerns around downloading & executing pieces here
          not a trivial fix. Signing / build verification discussion stalled.
          Investigation ongoing. ].
        + Online Help needs update to match current behavior (Help -> Check for Updates -> Help)
             https://help.libreoffice.org/swriter/EXTENSIONS_HID_CHECK_FOR_UPD_DLG
AI      + File an MAB and loose it here (Kendy)
            + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=74934
 
* Release Engineering update (Christian)
    + 4.1.5 RC3 status
        + a Calc problem needed RC3
        + Linux & Mac already uploaded, Windows just packinging
        + will be announced for early testing later today,
          final announcement delayed to the next week
    + 4.2.1 RC1 status
        + currently building on Windows (almost finished),
        + can be pushed to pre-releases & announced to early-QA today.
        + new-strings, previously un-translated, now marked - but didn't
          update them in Pootle - not yet available
            + will be updated today, so 2 weeks until fixing in RC2.
* GSoC update (Cedric)
    + Google review starting / underway
    + please consider what you are able to mentor:
        + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/GSoC/Ideas
    + please checkout tasks with only one mentor and add yourself as a backup mentor.
 
* Crashtest update (Markus)
    + new crash-test / data (?)
        + http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/crashtest/f3d93434829d0e7c004679d000c30a934083b188/
    + calc looks really good outside of sxc
    + about 50x new writer issues on master
 
* UX hackfest bits (Kendy)
    + update achievements: Ahmad, Mirek, Tamas, Jacobo, others ... ?
      https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Hackfest/FOSDEM2014#Achievements
    + be great to get some a11y fixes in (Jacobo)
    + need more small usability bugs for the next hack-fest to nail (Astron)
        + would have been good to have 50x string change bugs or somesuch.
            + could we file these as easy hacks ? (Michael)
            + perhaps a list like the QA team ? (Astron)
AI:         + will try filing a lot of small string changes as easy hacks (Michael)
        + instead, had a number of quite large bugs, of which few were fixed.
 
* UX update (Astron)
    + Mirek & Astron - been distracted, not a lot happening just now.
        + need to get chats re-started etc.
 
* new hack-fest proposal (Bjoern)
    + offer of a hack-fest there, end of April
    + somewhat far away, but flights not so expensive ~Eur300 return
    + will enough people go there ? and what date ?
        + initial proposal - Easter weekend but expensive etc.
    + weekend ~problematic ? but Thur/Fri possible; April 24-25th ?
    + do we have budget ? (Michael)
        + yes, developer budget is there (Bjoern)
           + do we find enough (of the right) people to go ?
        + not end of April, would like to go (Stephan)
 
* HiDPI patches for 4.2.x? (Kendy)
    + LibreOffice does not look good on HiDPI screens at all - close to unusable
    + proposal to merge the HiDPI work to 4.2.x as a late feature
        + I would split the work into 'safe' and 'need real review' parts & push to a branch
        + can I get ESC approval / 3 intedependent reviews for that ?
    + is it a feature or a bug-fix ? (Michael)
        + most of the pieces going in enclosed in an if (hidpi) ...
            + checking that everything in the right if.
        + less safe part is checking / setting that flag; a small VCL piece.
    + Michael / Caolan signed up to review as/when there is a branch.
 
* Certification update (Kendy/Bjoern/Stephan)
 
* QA (Bjoern)
    + Celebrated 25k reported bugs in LibreOffice recently:
       + http://skyfromme.wordpress.com/2014/02/11/libreoffice-bugzilla-status/
       + mostly closed, great to see Sophie's impact on triage.
    + post-release bug filing rate is ~static
       + so release not terribly bad.
    + 4.2.0 pushed to Ubuntu development release
    + Awesome work by Michael Stahl on writer regressions this week.
    + Bugzilla Migration update
       + no update.
    + Need-advice bug list bits ?
       + need to work through & remind some CC'd devs.
         https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=regression%2C%20&keywords_type=allwords&list_id=385735&query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=NEEDINFO&bug_status=PLEASETEST&version=4.1.1.1%20rc&version=4.1.1.2%20release&version=4.1.2.1%20rc&version=4.1.2.2%20rc&version=4.1.2.3%20release&version=4.1.3.1%20rc&version=4.1.3.2%20release&version=4.1.4.1%20rc&version=4.1.4.2%20release&version=4.1.5.1%20rc&version=4.1.5.2%20rc&version=4.1.5.3%20release&version=4.1.6.1%20rc&product=LibreOffice
 
* QA stats:
 
Querying overall / top bug stats
  + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
    +234    -190        (+44 overall)
    many thanks to the top bug squashers:
        Kohei Yoshida       29
        mariosv             15
        Jorendc             13
        Caolán McNamara     11
        Michael Stahl        9
        Maxim Monastirsky    7
        sophie               7
        V Stuart Foote       5
        Alex Thurgood        5
        Jacques Guilleron    5
        Cor Nouws            5
        Andras Timar         5
 
* Open 4.2 MAB
  + 18/97 19/95 18/85 17/70 17/65 17/59 21/58 15/45 14/38
     18%   20%   21%   24%   26%   28%   36%   33%   37%
  + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=65675&hide_resolved=1
 
* Open 4.1 MAB
  + 37/149 37/149 34/144 34/142 36/142 33/138 32/137 32/136 29/130 29/127
     24%    24%    23%    23%    25%    23%    23%    23%    22%    23%
  + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=60270&hide_resolved=1
 
* Open 4.0 MAB
  + 49/211 52/211 54/212 52/210 52/208 52/208 55/208 56/208 55/208 56/208
     23%    24%    25%    24%    25%    25%    26%    26%    26%    27%
  + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=54157&hide_resolved=1
 
* Bibisected bugs open: whiteboard 'bibsected'
  + 42/180 42/179 43/178 43/176 44/176 44/175 44/170 46/169 48/169 48/168
    + http://bit.ly/VQfF3Q
 
* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
    + 335(-11) bugs open of 2307(+12) total
    * ~Component   count net *
           Writer - 86 (-5)
      Spreadsheet - 55 (-9)
      Libreoffice - 29 (-1)
     Presentation - 27 (+0)
         Database - 21 (+0)
          Crashes - 20 (-2)
          Drawing - 16 (+0)
          Borders - 14 (-2)
            BASIC -  4 (+0)
        Migration -  3 (+0)
  + http://bit.ly/15mM2Yn - for devs ( no NEEDINFO / UNCONFIRMED )
  + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=regression%2C%20&keywords_type=allwords&resolution=---&query_format=advanced&product=LibreOffice&list_id=36764
  + Migration: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=43489&hide_resolved=1

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