Minutes of ESC call 2014-01-09

Jan Holesovsky kendy at collabora.com
Thu Jan 9 09:41:01 PST 2014


* Present
    + Markus, Bjoern, Kendy, Lionel, Adam, Kohei, Miklos, Andras, Caolan, Stephan, Eike, Christian, Jacobo
 
* Completed Action Items:
    + test & document windows debug symbol server (QA guys?)
        http://dev-downloads.libreoffice.org/symstore/symbols/
      [ Cloph uploading RC2 symbols, and also the source server! - so sources will be available
        in the debugger too ]
 
* Pending Action Items:
    + need design for copying styles between templates (Cor Nouws/other UX?)
        cf. http://www.mail-archive.com/libreoffice-ux-advise@lists.freedesktop.org/msg01658.html
            http://www.mail-archive.com/libreoffice-ux-advise@lists.freedesktop.org/msg01663.html
    + Buy an iPhone for testing vs. Dev. budget (Cloph)
    + Review patches in the queue (Andrzej)
        [ blocking getting an Android pre-release of this out ]
        [ one reviewed, but not submitted, some non-reviewed changes yet - but at least the updated
          version in Google play - for people who signed up for beta testing ]
    + look into non-functioning 'install' button in update dialog (Kendy / Andras)
        [ still needs to be done ]
 
* Release Engineering update (Christian)
    + 4.2 code freeze / branch status
    + GSOC / Android & iOS remote control pre-releases for 4.2
       [ already released:
         See http://www.mail-archive.com/libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org/msg05952.html ]
    + 4.2 Feature freeze update / status
        + bug in the tag, so re-tagged, and built new Windows and Linux versions; now uploading
        + necessary to be fixed in the branches too
        + 4.2 MAB count - still v. high for this point in the cycle.
            + January 20th deadline!
        + GL / time based chart pieces (Michael/Moggi)
            [ punt until 4.3 ... ]
    + 4.1.5
        + RC1 - January 13th
    + please ensure that release notes are up-to-date:
        + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/4.2
    + FOSDEM/UX-Hackfest/LibreOffice 4.2.0 release all around the same date
        + good idea to prepare FOSDEM slides early (Bjoern)
        + should release before it - mid-week 30th or so (Norbert)

* Localizations now buildable separately (Bjoern)
    + Linux packagers encouraged to try!
 
* Crashtest update (Markus)
    + new crash-test / data:
        + cf. http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/crashtest/
    + http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/crashtest/2bb1a845a25ca9a39c96f37995453844461aed4e/
        + import crashes pretty good now
        + export still not too good
        + validation errors still high unfortunately
 
* New GL charting / time based work (Moggi)
    + plan to get it to master before FOSDEM
    + 2 new dependencies - GLEW & glm (version with libreoffice patches(soon) at: github.com/mmohrhard/glm)
    + can we merge it (via real git merge)?
        + rebase to the libreoffice-4-2 branchpoint easy (Moggi)
        + rebase to the master HEAD hard! (Moggi)
        + OK to rebase to the libreoffice-4-2 branchpoint; would prefer rebase to master HEAD, but well :) (Bjoern)
        + would be good to let the developer of the feature decide if OK to rebase to master HEAD, or merge (Miklos)
    + conclusion: rebase back to libreoffice-4-2 branchpoint to have it on the master's commit & merge
    + Bjoern recommends trying https://github.com/mhagger/git-imerge -- it might make even a 'simple' merge easier
      because it makes the merge incrementally etc. (final result with be a merge like every other)
 
* FOSDEM (Kendy)
    + Standard Hotel 'Astrid' bookings to share at:
       + http://www.astridhotel.be/index-en.html
    + Usability hack-fest 2x days after FOSDEM:
       + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Hackfest/FOSDEM2014#Participants
          + good to register ...

* GSoC is approaching
    + collect ideas https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/GSoC/Ideas
    + Cedric & Fridrich interested to do the project admin again

* Freiburg offers another Hackfest again (Bjoern)
    + do we have a contact person for Freiburg?
    + no date, just the offer
    + Moggi can take care of it, unless there is somebody more local :-)

* Certification update (Kendy/Bjoern/Stephan)
    + no update
  
* QA (Robinson) (Bjoern reported)
    + continue interrupted discussion on recommending new
      update versions to users.
    + Bugzilla Migration update
        + no news.
    + Need-advice bug list bits: Couple of bugs from a11y
        => make them MABs
    + unconfirmed bugs under 800! - great work
    + overall the bug stats look good
    + new bugs still increasing, but still the ratio against closed (fixed or duplicates)
      is reasonable
    + many bugs are actually feature requests
    + QA/development is precise in telling people what is needed as NEEDINFO stays
      constant
    + some good news to share - in the last 6 months:
        + development fixed ~1000 issues
        + QA finds some ~1000 duplicates
        + QA closes some ~1000 issues as invalid
    + our NEW bug count is still growing, but is slowing down and now at ~1000 more
      bugs in NEW in the last 8 months
    + 25% of NEW bugs are feature requests though -- which is good
      https://bugs.freedesktop.org/reports.cgi?product=LibreOffice&datasets=UNCONFIRMED
      http://snipurl.com/28ew3u5
 
* QA stats:
  + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
    +97    -99    (-2 overall)
    many thanks to the top bug squashers:
        Foss                13
        tommy27             12
        Jean-Baptiste Faure  8
        Jorendc              7
        Maxim Monastirsky    6
        V Stuart Foote       5
        Nikhil Walvekar      5
        Michael Meeks        4
 
* Open 4.2 MAB
  + 17/59 21/58 15/45 14/38 13/29 8/23 7/20
     28%   36%   33%   37%
  + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=65675&hide_resolved=1
 
* Open 4.1 MAB
  + 33/138 32/137 32/136 29/130 29/127 28/125 28/122 28/119 27/118
     23%    23%    23%    22%    23%    22%    23%    24%    23%
  + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=60270&hide_resolved=1
 
* Open 4.0 MAB
  + 52/208 55/208 56/208 55/208 56/208 57/208 57/205 57/204 53/200 54/200
     25%    26%    26%    26%    27%    27%    28%    28%    27%    27%
  + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=54157&hide_resolved=1
 
* Bibisected bugs open: whiteboard 'bibsected'
  + 44/175 44/170 46/169 48/169 48/168 49/167 48/164 48/162 49/160
    + http://bit.ly/VQfF3Q
 
* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
    + 349(-3) bugs open of 2206(+6) total
    * ~Component   count net *
           Writer - 103 (+1)
      Spreadsheet - 49 (-3)
      Libreoffice - 35 (+0)
     Presentation - 25 (+0)
         Database - 23 (+2)
          Crashes - 23 (+1)
          Drawing - 16 (+1)
          Borders - 16 (+0)
            BASIC -  7 (+0)
        Migration -  3 (+0)
  + http://bit.ly/15mM2Yn - for devs ( no NEEDINFO / UNCONFIRMED )
  + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=regression%2C%20&keywords_type=allwords&resolution=---&query_format=advanced&product=LibreOffice&list_id=36764
  + Migration: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=43489&hide_resolved=1




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