minutes of ESC call ...

Michael Meeks michael.meeks at collabora.com
Thu Jan 16 10:21:48 PST 2014


* Present:
    + Cedric, Miklos, Caolan, Kendy, Fridrich, Adam, Andras, Cloph, Jacobo,
      Stephan, Markus, Michael M, David T, Eike, Robinson, Kohei, Bjoern
 
* Completed Action Items
    + Connect moggi with local Frieburg guys (Bjoern)
       + planning required for hack-fests generally.
 
 * Pending Action Items:
    + need design for copying styles between templates (Cor Nouws/other UX?)
        cf. http://www.mail-archive.com/libreoffice-ux-advise@lists.freedesktop.org/msg01658.html
            http://www.mail-archive.com/libreoffice-ux-advise@lists.freedesktop.org/msg01663.html
        [ UX hack-fest item for progress ? ]
    + Review patches in the queue (Andrzej)
        [ blocking getting an Android pre-release of this out ]
        [ one reviewed, but not submitted, some non-reviewed changes yet - but at least the updated
          version in Google play - for people who signed up for beta testing.
          Andrzej reviewing & pushing patches, otherwise Cloph to push as is ].
    + Buy an iPhone for testing vs. Dev. budget (Cloph)
        [ UI checked, and testing release in progress ]
    + look into non-functioning 'install' button in update dialog (Kendy / Andras)
        [ Kendy has security concerns around downloading & executing pieces here
          not a trivial fix. Signing / build verification discussion stalled.
          Investigation ongoing. ].
        + Online Help needs update to match current behavior (Help -> Check for Updates -> Help)
             https://help.libreoffice.org/swriter/EXTENSIONS_HID_CHECK_FOR_UPD_DLG
 
* Release Engineering update (Christian)
    + 4.1.5 RC1 status
        + currently synching to the mirror network -> public after the call
          no negative feedback at the moment
    + 4.2 code freeze / branch status (Christian)
        + scanned the MAB list for critical issues
            + a11y crasher - only in release builds
               + IA2 is experimental (Mst)
            + PDF export loosing images: fdo#72530 (ironic)
            + A couple of font issues, fdo#50855, fdo#77628
        + otherwise MABs are already fixed: install on mac & dep. issue on Linux
 
* GSoC is approaching (Fridrich)
    + collect ideas https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/GSoC/Ideas
        + Many tasks need mentors.
        + Org. Application time is Feb 3rd.
            + would be good to have ideas page presentable by then.
        + need to focus on high quality students & applications (Fridrich)
    + Cedric & Fridrich interested to do the project admin again
    + could we create another page with a grab-bag of ideas with less
      mentoring bandwidth ?
AI: + mentors - prune / remove already done ideas from each side (All)
AI: + create a general ideas page, dis-connected from GSoC (Fridrich)
        + pruning non-mentored tasks to the new page.
 
* Crashtest update (Markus)
    + new crash-test / data:
        + cf. http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/crashtest/
    + http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/crashtest/2bb1a845a25ca9a39c96f37995453844461aed4e/
        + import crashes pretty good now
        + export still not good
        + validation errors still high unfortunately
 
* FOSDEM (Kendy)
    + Standard Hotel 'Astrid' bookings to share at:
       + http://www.astridhotel.be/index-en.html
    + Usability hack-fest 2x days after FOSDEM:
       + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Hackfest/FOSDEM2014#Participants
          + good to register ...
 
* Certification update (Kendy/Bjoern/Stephan)
 
* AbiWord import filter (Fridrich)
    + concerned wrt. 4.3 due to new framework changes etc.
    + target it for 4-2-1 as experimental ? (Michael)
       + already part of libwpftwriterlo - hard to make experimental (Fridrich)
       + no problem without the experimental flag (Markus)
           + self contained, import filter, no big danger.
       + no real UI changes, beyond a new filter string (Fridrich)
AI:        + "Abiword Document", poke translators (Fridrich)
               + ie. to l10n at global.libreoffice.org
       + 3x volunteers: Markus, Michael, David to review it.
 
* QA (Robinson)
    + Bugzilla Migration update
       + no update.
    + Need-advice bug list bits ?
       + "Writer no longer uses Text and Background Colours from
          Windows High-Contrast theme for displaying document" (a11y)
         https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=71511 (Bjoern)
       + " Any >>= operator and typelib_TypeClass_ENUM" (Stephan to poke)
         https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=64394
 
    + All Most Annoying Bugs -> priority Highest (Bjoern)
        + all non MABs at priority Highest -> to priority high.
        + concern that people will just up their priorities (Michael)
            + no mechanism to stop people re-prioritising bugs.
        + currently have fewer bugs in priority highest than MABs (Bjoern)
            + not changing the MAB dependencies yet.
        + will un-subscribe the dev-list from MAB, change, and re-subscribe
          so only 2x mails to the dev list.
            + prepare for some spam if you're subscribed directly.
 
* QA stats:
  + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
    +137    -98    (+39 overall)
    many thanks to the top bug squashers:
        Maxim Monastirsky   16
        sophie               8
        Foss                 7
        Michael Stahl        6
        Kohei Yoshida        6
        Jean-Baptiste Faure  5
        tommy27              5
        Zolnai Tamás         5
        Eike Rathke          4
 
* Open 4.2 MAB
  + 17/65 17/59 21/58 15/45 14/38 13/29 8/23 7/20
     26%   28%   36%   33%   37%
  + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=65675&hide_resolved=1
 
* Open 4.1 MAB
  + 36/142 33/138 32/137 32/136 29/130 29/127 28/125 28/122 28/119 27/118
     25%    23%    23%    23%    22%    23%    22%    23%    24%    23%
  + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=60270&hide_resolved=1
 
* Open 4.0 MAB
  + 52/208 52/208 55/208 56/208 55/208 56/208 57/208 57/205 57/204
     25%    25%    26%    26%    26%    27%    27%    28%    28%
  + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=54157&hide_resolved=1
 
* Bibisected bugs open: whiteboard 'bibsected'
  + 44/176 44/175 44/170 46/169 48/169 48/168 49/167 48/164 48/162 49/160
    + http://bit.ly/VQfF3Q
 
* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
    + 348(-1) bugs open of 2221(+15) total
    * ~Component   count net *
           Writer - 103 (+0)
      Spreadsheet - 48 (-1)
      Libreoffice - 34 (-1)
     Presentation - 25 (+0)
          Crashes - 24 (+1)
         Database - 23 (+0)
          Drawing - 16 (+1)
          Borders - 16 (+0)
            BASIC -  7 (+0)
        Migration -  3 (+0)
  + http://bit.ly/15mM2Yn - for devs ( no NEEDINFO / UNCONFIRMED )
  + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=regression%2C%20&keywords_type=allwords&resolution=---&query_format=advanced&product=LibreOffice&list_id=36764
  + Migration: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=43489&hide_resolved=1

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