minutes of ESC call ...

Michael Meeks michael.meeks at collabora.com
Thu Jan 30 07:32:47 PST 2014


* Present
    + Eike, Norbert, Lionel, David, Thorsten, Cloph, Miklos, Caolan,
      Andras, Stephan, Bjoern, Cedric, Kendy
     
* Completed Action Items
 
 * Pending Action Items:
    + GSOC mentors - prune / remove already done ideas from each side (All)
    + create a general ideas page, dis-connected from GSoC (Fridrich)
    + look into non-functioning 'install' button in update dialog (Kendy / Andras)
        [ Kendy has security concerns around downloading & executing pieces here
          not a trivial fix. Signing / build verification discussion stalled.
          Investigation ongoing. ].
        + Online Help needs update to match current behavior (Help -> Check for Updates -> Help)
             https://help.libreoffice.org/swriter/EXTENSIONS_HID_CHECK_FOR_UPD_DLG
 
* Release Engineering update (Christian)
    + 4.2 RC4 status
        + released as final a few hours ago
            + some last-minute website tweaks.
        + various last minute fixes required an RC4
        + thanks to everyone who raced to get RC4 done things in
            + Markus, Kohei, Eike, Michael S, Cloph, Norbert, Caolan & more.
    + 4.1.5 RC2 status
        + scheduled for this week.
        + three patches in gerrit from Michael S.
          https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/q/status:open+project:core+branch:libreoffice-4-1-5,n,z
        + if written by Michael S, reviewed by Caolan & Milos -> rubber stamp them.
    + submitted new Android remote as public to the app store
    + new iOS app submitted for review, but not been reviewed yet
        + average review time is ~5 days
        + if we're average - expected tomorrow.
 
* GSoC update (Cedric)
    + not much changed in last 2x weeks, would be good to update tasks & mentoring data.
    + we will update the page shortly after FOSDEM
 
* Crashtest update (Markus)
 
* UX Hackfest bits (Kendy/Michael)
    + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Hackfest/FOSDEM2014#Participants
    + removed sidebar tracker from 4.2 MABs (Michael)
        + lots of sidebar usability issues, but ...
          better to punt this lot to the UX hack-fest:
          https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=65138&hide_resolved=1
    + other bits - Cor's stuff above ?
    + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=73051
    + need design for copying styles between templates (Cor Nouws/other UX?)
        cf. http://www.mail-archive.com/libreoffice-ux-advise@lists.freedesktop.org/msg01658.html
            http://www.mail-archive.com/libreoffice-ux-advise@lists.freedesktop.org/msg01663.html
        [ UX hack-fest item for progress ? ]
    + preview of files in Startcenter - not only odf, but other filetypes too
    + ideas from Mirek and the design team as/when we're there.
 
* FOSDEM this weekend (Kendy)
    + send 'dish' choice to Fridrich for Saturday dinner (Eike)
    + dev-room: check your https://penta.fosdem.org/search/person and provide
      your biography/profile in the "Description" -> "Abstract"
    + Standard Hotel 'Astrid' bookings to share at:
       + http://www.astridhotel.be/index-en.html
 
* Certification update (Kendy/Bjoern/Stephan)
 
* UNO component re-work (Kendy / Stephan)
    + reducing component linkage helps a lot - 10's of MB saved for mobile. 
    + reducing global initializers too saving a lot.
       + caused problems with crash-on-exit, and saves startup time (Tor)

* unused method list ? (Miklos)
    + what's the status of that - not updated recently.
       + not found too many docs on it; is it 'make find-unused'
       + it should be ut ... (Caolan)
           + script + Makefile just broken at the moment.
    + removed a lot of generated code in writerfilter &
      wanted to look (Miklos)
    + should start to find and remove resource constructors from
      unused code from UI conversion (Caolan)
 
* Window & OutputDevice sub-class (Michael)
    + Chris Sherlock looking at API documentation
    + trying to move to get OutputDevice ripped out of Window,
      Window should not be an OutputDevice sub-class
    + will make native dialogs much easier (Caolan)
 
* QA (Bjoern)
    + Robinson in transit to FOSDEM
    + Bugzilla Migration update
       + no update.
    + Need-advice bug list bits ?
       + need to work through & remind some CC'd devs.
 
* QA stats:
 
Querying overall / top bug stats
  + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
    +169    -160        (+9 overall)
    many thanks to the top bug squashers:
        Jean-Baptiste Faure 27
        bfoman              14
        tommy27             12
        Caolán McNamara      9
        Michael Stahl        8
        Foss                 7
        Eike Rathke          6
        Kohei Yoshida        6
        Maxim Monastirsky    6
        Jorendc              5
 
* Open 4.2 MAB
  + 18/85 17/70 17/65 17/59 21/58 15/45 14/38
     21%   24%   26%   28%   36%   33%   37%
  + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=65675&hide_resolved=1
 
* Open 4.1 MAB
  + 34/144 34/142 36/142 33/138 32/137 32/136 29/130 29/127 28/125 28/122
     23%    23%    25%    23%    23%    23%    22%    23%    22%    23%
  + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=60270&hide_resolved=1
 
* Open 4.0 MAB
  + 54/212 52/210 52/208 52/208 55/208 56/208 55/208 56/208 57/208 57/205
     25%    24%    25%    25%    26%    26%    26%    27%    27%    28%
  + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=54157&hide_resolved=1
 
* Bibisected bugs open: whiteboard 'bibsected'
  + 43/178 43/176 44/176 44/175 44/170 46/169 48/169 48/168 49/167
    + http://bit.ly/VQfF3Q
 
* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
    + 346(+1) bugs open of 2255(+23) total
    * ~Component   count net *
           Writer - 95 (-5)
      Spreadsheet - 55 (+8)
      Libreoffice - 31 (-2)
     Presentation - 26 (-2)
          Crashes - 23 (+2)
         Database - 23 (+0)
          Drawing - 17 (+0)
          Borders - 16 (+0)
            BASIC -  6 (-1)
        Migration -  3 (+0)
  + http://bit.ly/15mM2Yn - for devs ( no NEEDINFO / UNCONFIRMED )
  + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=regression%2C%20&keywords_type=allwords&resolution=---&query_format=advanced&product=LibreOffice&list_id=36764
  + Migration: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=43489&hide_resolved=1

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