minutes of ESC call ...
Michael Meeks
michael.meeks at collabora.com
Thu Jun 5 08:20:31 PDT 2014
* Present
+ Cloph, David, Eike, Fridrich, Michael M, Stephan, Thorsten, Ptyl, Miklos
Kendy, Markus, Bjoern, Robinson, Michael S, Caolan, Andras, floeff, Jacobo
* Completed Action Items
+ talk to distro vendors wrt. commit access setup (Michael)
+ crashtest box - more research (Moggi/Cloph)
[ new control script in pure python working nicely ].
+ create / promote a 4.3 MAB for WinXP/Java issues (Cloph)
[ was related to python init. now fixed ]
+ add link on Credits page (Cloph)
https://translations.documentfoundation.org/about/contributors/
+ create easy hack to find an auto-abandon config/setting for a gerrit (Bjoern)
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=79123
+ fix the Java bridge for MSVC2012 for 4.3 (Michael S.)
[ done committed to -4-3 ]
+ teach the IRC bot. to not show distro commits (Miklos)
+ Tinderbox Admins: please add "LibreOffice 4.3" (Thorsten & co.)
[ tinderboxes for all platforms rolling ].
+ encourage icon authors to put icons into git (Astron)
[ no response from KACST guys ... ]
* Pending Action Items:
* GSOC Update (Fridrich)
+ students should be hacking.
+ If there are problems with contacting, should report absence
+ mail reports sound positive, ~all at work.
+ no concerns yet.
+ mid-term evaluations: 23rd-27th June.
+ remind to ask the student to blog about what they do (Cedric)
AI: + ask students to blog about it (GSOC Mentors)
+ steady work and progress is appreciated.
* Release Engineering update (Christian)
+ 4.2.5 RC2 deadline is next Monday
+ 7x patches queued in gerrit.
+ 4.3.0 Beta 2 status
+ delays around translation, lots of problems with context, not
strings themselves: now fixed.
+ builds currently being pushed to mirrors; for public this
evening / tomorrow.
+ 4.3.0 UI and string freeze: week after next - branch for first RC.
+ Android / iOS remote
+ will build a new version with buttons to start/exit remote
ptr. feature.
+ builds pushed just now for the new version; and available.
+ Late features ?
+ libreofficekit bits / rename etc. (blocking on Michael)
+ OpenGL pieces / status
+ impress work as well ?
+ pending GL capabilities check to avoid crashes.
+ experimentalising 3D chart bits.
+ at risk.
+ some changes in language listbox (Eike)
+ switching to a combo-box, so can enter an arbitrary lang_tag
[ in: https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/9447 ]
+ preserving & rendering OOXML Artistic Effects (Jacobo)
[ in: https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/9495 ]
+ Calc performanc fixes (?)
* Another OpenSSL issue:
+ https://securityblog.redhat.com/2014/06/05/openssl-mitm-ccs-injection-attack-cve-2014-0224/
+ http://www.openssl.org/news/secadv_20140605.txt
+ awaiting patch, lower priority - release on normal 4.2.5 cadence
+ should we disable heartbeat completely ? (Bjoern)
+ we don't really need it.
AI: + merge existing Fedora patches (Caolan)
* allow upgrade of access2base (Lionel?)
* no - Lionel, no discussion / decision.
+ access2base now included in LibreOffice 4.2 and later
+ technical structure: one Basic library (and that's it)
+ for other branches (other forks of OO.org & LibreOffice 4.1 and earlier),
available as extension
+ competitive "disadvantage": users of other branches
can have newer access2base faster (install extension)
+ not possible for LibO 4.2 & later because extension not allowed
to override part of LibreOffice (only other extension)
+ policy exception for access2base can have new features within stable line?
+ I don't like that
+ allow extensions to override any part of LibreOffice?
+ no, significant resistance
+ allow extensions to override any *script* or *dialog* library from LibreOffice?
+ allow extensions to override any *Basic* or *dialog* library from LibreOffice?
+ allow extensions to override any *Basic* (not *dialog*) library from LibreOffice?
+ rationale: AFAIK, we don't ship any wizard / conversion / ... code as Basic, only examples
+ needs to be validated by domain expert
+ allow extensions to override only access2base?
+ demote access2base to bundled extension?
+ makes Acces2Base much less "official" in LibreOffice :-(
(also more work)
* UX Update (Astron)
+ a few UX advise bugs getting discussed.
+ colour of non-printing characters ...
+ customizable or not ?
* Crashtest update (Markus)
+ new result including writer/impress/draw
http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/crashtest/7c8b2f10310f0f64b111afb3012e82e9c4a690ac/
+ ignore the calc results, silly one writing invalid files.
+ new control script: looks quite nice alreay.
+ 25k files processed or so.
+ written a script to analyse the results:
+ will provide historic data for the results
+ currently running the whole test document set under memcheck on a server
kindly provided by the City of Largo,
+ four or so serious issues fixed by Michael / Markus.
+ got through 12k (of 45k) or so documents at random.
+ kill the script tomorrow, re-build & run against a current master
to avoid too many duplicates etc.
+ volunteers that like valgrind bug reports appreciated.
* Certification Committee (Stephan/Bjoern/Kendy)
+ will wait for the next scan until ~September.
* Merging disruptive changes (Caolan)
+ should do in a branch, and merge fixes later.
* Hackfests (Bjoern)
+ Paris Hackfest:
+ June 27-28th
+ please add yourself to the wiki:
+ https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Hackfest/Paris2014
+ new candidate - Tolouse ...
+ hope to have a November/December hack-fest there.
* QA (Robinson)
+ Bug Hunting Session for 4.3 went well
+ Seeing some new contributors in #libreoffice-qa
+ Even more bibisected regressions this week (64 -> 81)
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&query_format=advanced&status_whiteboard=bibisected&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&order=changeddate%20DESC%2Cop_sys%2Cbug_status%2Cpriority%2Cassigned_to%2Cbug_id&list_id=426069
+ waiting for developer attention ...
+ anything can be done to make them more palateable would be helpful.
+ ideally pruning the problem down to a single-commit (Michael)
+ beyond skills of some QA members.
+ few new people in QA doing bisection to a single commit (Bjoern)
+ please encourage them ! or at least don't discourage them.
+ Unconfirmed count: down to 1100 or so.
+ Joel targetting 500 over the summer; we'll see.
+ closed out a number of un-responded-to NEEDINFO bugs.
+ Needadvice:
+ please keep track if you've tagged them; good to CC people on those.
+ buzilla migration (Norbert)
+ when its good enough will go back to Tollef for a real date.
[ Norbert still crushed by a work cycle ]
+ need to get bugzilla migration bits under gerrit so we can get patches.
+ QA team eager to help out.
* QA stats:
+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
+189 -288 (-99 overall)
many thanks to the top bug squashers:
QA Administrators 133
Jay Philips 22
Julien Nabet 14
Joel Madero 12
Michael Stahl 11
Caolán McNamara 8
Eike Rathke 7
Lionel Elie Mamane 7
m.a.riosv 6
sophie 4
Maxim Monastirsky 4
tommy27 3
Thomas Arnhold 3
* Open 4.3 MAB
+ 3/20 5/16 4/12 2/8 3/7 2/5 1/2 1/2 0/1 0/1
15%
+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=75025&hide_resolved=1
* Open 4.2 MAB
+ 71/205 73/200 64/190 62/184 49/165 18/128 19/124 18/123 24/120 20/112
34% 36% 33% 33% 29% 14% 15% 14% 20% 17%
+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=65675&hide_resolved=1
* Open 4.1 MAB
+ 2/139 2/139 13/151 18/155 43/179 76/208 78/208 78/208 79/208 79/206
1% 1% 8% 11% 24% 36% 37% 37% 37% 38%
+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=60270&hide_resolved=1
* Bibisected bugs open: whiteboard 'bibsected'
+ 70/249 59/231 48/215 45/208 46/207 47/201 47/198 46/197 39/189 38/185
+ http://bit.ly/VQfF3Q
* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
+ 331(+22) bugs open of 2663(+37) total
~Component count net *
Writer - 98 (+6)
Spreadsheet - 45 (+6)
Crashes - 24 (+0)
Libreoffice - 23 (+1)
Presentation - 23 (+1)
UI - 20 (+0)
Database - 18 (-1)
Graphics - 15 (+1)
Borders - 15 (+0)
Chart - 12 (+0)
Drawing - 11 (-2)
Print / PDF - 8 (-1)
Filters - 8 (-1)
Extensions - 5 (+0)
framework - 4 (+1)
Formula - 3 (+0)
Linguistic - 3 (+0)
Installation - 2 (+0)
BASIC - 2 (-1)
Migration - 1 (-1)
sdk - 0 (+0)
Impress Remote - 0 (+0)
+ http://bit.ly/15mM2Yn - for devs ( no NEEDINFO / UNCONFIRMED )
+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=3Dregression%2C%20&=keywords_type=3Dallwords&resolution=3D---&query_format=3Dadvanced&product==3DLibreOffice&list_id=3D36764
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