minutes of ESC call ...
Michael Meeks
michael.meeks at collabora.com
Thu Mar 13 08:51:53 PDT 2014
* Present
+ Norbert, Bjoern, David, Kohei, Markus, Miklos, Andras,
Stephan, Christian, Eike, Michael M, Astron, Caolan,
Michael S., Jacobo, Adam
* Completed Action Items
+ run certification script (Kendy)
+ review HiDPI branch for 4.2 (Kendy, Michael, Caolan)
[ mostly pushed to 4.2 should be in 4.2.3 rc1 ]
+ poke at writer file movement bug (fdo#70422) / gerrit (Miklos)
+ Announce Gran Canaria (Bjorn)
[ no need to book a hotel - making a group booking, poke Bjoern ]
[ please poke the wiki if you're coming to avoid ending up on the
street: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Hackfest/GranCanaria2014 ]
+ talk with Thorsten wrt. ODF TC representation (Michael S / Andras)
[ Andras signing up / paying to join TC for Collabora ]
+ review / fixup OOXML Strict handling for writer (Miklos)
[ 4.2 back-porting done too ]
* Pending Action Items:
+ crashtest box - more research (Moggi/Cloph)
[ still trying to dig out which document is causing the grief
limited to the writer documents ]
+ will try filing a lot of small string changes as easy hacks (Astron)
+ Book Gran Canaria flights (other attendees)
* Release Engineering update (Christian)
+ 4.2.2 announced
+ distributed at CeBIT already.
+ 4.2.3 rc1 status
+ will be ready for public announce tomorrow.
+ need to encourage marketing not to go over-the-top
enterprise-wise for 4.2.3.
+ Android / iOS remote
+ problem with laser point patch - needs debugging.
+ not released yet.
* CeBIT update (Michael/Cloph)
+ lots of interested users at the booth, big noisy trade-show.
+ a number of translators & student contributors too
+ a number of training people as well.
* UX update (Astron)
+ decision made on the conference logo
* GSoC update
+ applications from March 10th -> 21st.
+ next week!
+ please consider what you are able to mentor:
+ https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/GSoC/Ideas
+ mentors registered on melange
* Select All issues & their handling (Bjoern / Miklos)
+ problem with selecting all in the document; but a few basic
operations could crash writer: cut, undo, mouse wheel zoom.
+ tried to work around the latter, and found several others.
+ most of the issues already fixed by Miklos by now.
+ concern wrt. other cases: hard to know what is there ?
+ pointed out 3x bugs (Miklos)
+ one a non-regression, other 2x already fixed.
+ happy to handle them as/when.
+ be a shame to go back to avoiding fixing hard bugs.
+ we don't allow generic selections, only when the very
first item in the document is a table.
+ if more such problems found, please do let Miklos know.
+ leave it as-is for now (Bjoern/Miklos)
+ if reverted, could cause complaints & announced as a new feature.
+ should check / update the assertion too.
* Crashtest update (Markus)
+ kernel bug on the crash-testing VM
+ still pending on this :-(
+ partial new data: avoiding writer issues causing crash:
http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/crashtest/f51f03a46102333bac6a7fe06bc8538492f413a5/
+ calc is really good; down to ~5 import crashers and ~50 export crashers
+ hard to see past the duplicates - need to re-run it (Miklos)
* Certification update (Stephan/Bjoern)
+ ran the script; identified a new set of candidates
+ certification - does it depend on fixing issues in 2x components ? (Kohei)
+ no, but a competence and community connection test.
+ seven candidates agreed unanimously.
AI: + mail candidates to ask their permission (Stephan)
* Gran Canaria hack-fest (Bjoern)
+ April 24-25, 2014 (Thu-Fri)
+ add good topic ideas to the wiki page
+ cf. action items above.
* OOXML export validation and ODF validation (Markus)
+ have support for export validation in our testing framework
+ tinderebox maintainer need to enable validation, at least on few boxes
+ Markus will write a mail - wrt. what is necessary to have in your path.
+ enabled in calc for ODF & OOXML now
+ enabled in chart2 for OOXML
+ also available in writer - but issues need tackling in the export tests
+ a chunk is around ordering of elements (Miklos)
+ these seem to cause no practical problems really.
+ in Excel element order is important (Markus)
+ elements are removed if in the wrong order.
+ hopefully this keeps validation errors under control.
+ Cloph enabled this on 2x TDF / Linux test-boxes, so they will fail now.
+ shell wrappers for java validators - can we have them
inside the tinderbox script ? (Thorsten)
AI: + check them in to save time (Markus)
* UX dialog / wiki page to find missing dialogs (Caolan)
+ very pleased with contribution - pwrt. database dialogs
+ more help appreciated
http://caolanm.blogspot.co.uk/2014/03/findingtheblastedlastbunchofdialogs.html
* QA (Bjoern)
+ Unconfirmed bugs are going up, but the rate is slowing
+ up 200 from minimum; we were below 800 before.
+ help appreciated with:
+ http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugTriage
+ done an audit of writer regressions (Bjoern)
+ lots of these are really old in writer (43 are older than 4.0, while e.g. Calc has only 11)
+ very few in calc
+ Markus was aggressive at fixing these -
sub 10 until ~a year ago
+ getting rid of the last 2x 4.0 MAB
+ Done, and 4.0 MAB meta bug is closed.
+ Bugzilla Migration update
+ contacted Keith Packard, and got an intro to a
new freedesktop admin.
+ if anyone wants to join the QA call - it is on Monday,
out of the regular rhythm
* QA stats:
+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
+169 -134 (+35 overall)
many thanks to the top bug squashers:
Kohei Yoshida 19
Joel Madero 16
Adolfo Jayme 10
Jean-Baptiste Faure 7
Maxim Monastirsky 7
sophie 6
m.a.riosv 5
Jorendc 5
Björn Michaelsen 5
Markus Mohrhard 4
Andras Timar 4
* Open 4.3 MAB
+ 1/1 1/1
+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=75025&hide_resolved=1
* Open 4.2 MAB
+ 20/111 18/104 17/102 17/99 18/97 19/95 18/85 17/70 17/65 17/59 21/58
18% 17% 16% 17% 18% 20% 21% 24% 26% 28% 36%
+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=65675&hide_resolved=1
* Open 4.1 MAB
+ 85/206 86/204 81/198 80/197 37/149 37/149 34/144 34/142 36/142
41% 42% 40% 40% 24% 24% 23% 23% 25%
+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=60270&hide_resolved=1
* Open 4.0 MAB
+ 2/164 2/164 4/166 4/166 49/211 52/211 54/212 52/210 52/208 52/208 55/208
1% 1% 2% 2% 23% 24% 25% 24% 25% 25% 26%
+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=54157&hide_resolved=1
* Bibisected bugs open: whiteboard 'bibsected'
+ 39/182 39/181 40/180 40/180 42/180 42/179 43/178 43/176 44/176
+ http://bit.ly/VQfF3Q
* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
+ increased thanks to bibisected bugs that were not yet marked as regressions
+ Bjoern added the tag
+ 359(-2) bugs open of 2404(+15) total
* ~Component count net *
Writer - 102 (-1)
Spreadsheet - 59 (+0)
Presentation - 31 (+0)
Libreoffice - 27 (-1)
Database - 24 (+2)
Crashes - 21 (+0)
Drawing - 15 (+0)
Borders - 14 (-2)
BASIC - 5 (+0)
Migration - 3 (+0)
+ http://bit.ly/15mM2Yn - for devs ( no NEEDINFO / UNCONFIRMED )
+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=regression%2C%20&keywords_type=allwords&resolution=---&query_format=advanced&product=LibreOffice&list_id=36764
+ Migration: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=43489&hide_resolved=1
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