minutes of ESC call ...

Michael Meeks michael.meeks at collabora.com
Thu Mar 27 08:51:53 PDT 2014


* Present
    Bjoern, Eike, Norbert, Christian, Adam, Matus, Kohei, Kendy,
    Cedric, Miklos, Andras, Michael M, Stephan B, David, Robinson,
    Astron, Lionel
 
* Completed Action Items
    + unwind non-closed 4.0 MABs (Michael)
    + send bluez 5.0 bug # to Caolan (Michael)
        [ ahunt looking into this ]
    + update certification website (Kendy)
    + create a meta-bug for large l10n relevant 4.3 issues (Andras)
      https://bugs.libreoffice.org/show_bug.cgi?id=76203
 
* Pending Action Items:
    + crashtest box - more research (Moggi/Cloph)
        [ still pending discovering which document is the one ...
          box is doing something now (Cloph) ... ]
    + will try filing a lot of small string changes as easy hacks (Astron)
 
* Release Engineering update (Christian)
    + iOS remote approved with fix for iOS5
    + will pull the Android remote translations, and will publish
      that as a public release
    + 4.2.3 rc2 status
        + pushed to early testing & QA already, synching to the mirrors
        + will be released today / tomorrow morning.
    + on-line update is triggered by micro version being larger
        + so far only 4.2 getting updates to 4.2.2
        + users on 4.1.5 etc. not getting updates to that.
    + 4.1.next - April 7th
 
* UX update (Astron)
    + not much to report
 
* Daylight saving reminder:
    + same European local-time next week
 
* Performance regression testing (Matus)
    + raw data from Matus' callgrind / tinderbox profiling script is:
        + http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/callgrind_report/
    + recently expanded to use around 10x test files
        + we load them, and save them and log the pseudo-cycles
        + the hope is that this will run regularly (taking ~10 hours)
          and produce a long time series to spot performance problems.
    + history_old.fods
        + concerned by the big 7x XLSX test jump (Norbert)
            + in beginning, only loading, but now exporting too, and
              the export takes a lot longer.
            + the big drop is 20x days of data we lost
        + performance seems stable, if not very slightly better over time
    + what do the numbers mean ? (Kohei)
        + they are callgrind pseudo-cycles - using cache simulation (Matus)
    + can we publish the latest callgrind output files ? (Michael)
        + sounds reasonable
AI:         + look into automatic up-load of data & last callgrind traces (Matus/Cloph) 
    + where is the script ? (Michael)
        + in buildbot.git/loperf/*
        + test files in testfiles.git/loperf
    + why are numbers in history.fods different ? (Kendy)
        + divided by a million to make it easier to read (Matus)
    + also measuring the first-ever-start and 1st start (Matus)
 
* Security-related bugs in release notes (Michael Stahl)
    + users should not be adding those, eg:
    + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/index.php?title=ReleaseNotes%2F4.0&diff=87766&oldid=86905
        + not really a security bug & => should be removed.
    + shouldn't list security bugs in the release notes (Norbert)
        + many bugs are security bugs
        + concerned wrt. the process too (Bjoern)
    + if we do fix security bugs we have the page here:
        + https://www.libreoffice.org/about-us/security/advisories/
    + mozilla have a single CVE for each release (Michael)
        + that includes all potential security related issues
        + concern with other projects using the code
        + concern wrt. total Mitre non-responsiveness
    + leave as-is.
AI: + remove recently added, misleading security bug section from release notes (Michael S)
* GSoC update (Cedric)
    + have around a dozen good looking students
    + final slot request due April 7th
        + requested 9 min, 12 max.
    + continue rating the students in the meantime at:
        + http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/proposal/list/org/google/gsoc2014
 
* New committers (welcome to the team) (Norbert)
    + Chris Sherlock - great work in VCL
    + Maxim Monastirsky - impressive calc work (Kohei)
 
* Crashtest update (Markus)
    + pending the fix.
 
* Gran Canaria hack-fest (Bjoern)
    + April 24-25, 2014 (Thu-Fri)
        + book flights etc.
        + hotel is booked by TDF from Wednesday to Saturday see
          https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Hackfest/GranCanaria2014#Accomodation for details
        + venue is online too: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Hackfest/GranCanaria2014#Venue
        + bus from the hotel -> university planned.
 
* Certification Committee (Stephan/Bjoern/Kendy)
AI: + inform marketing guys wrt. certification (Kendy)
 
* UX test at LibrePlanet / SpinachCon (Robinson)
    + several bugs / rendering issues to enter
    + events are important, get good feedback etc.
 
* QA (Robinson)
    + doing a bit better with bug triage this week
        + stable at 930 or so unconfirmed
    + almost no 4.2 writer regressions
        + down to about three
        + asked QA veterans to priotize old bugs and
          identify which are real regressions.
    + buzilla migration - not happening
        + crawling fdo bug XML with
          https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/gitweb?p=dev-tools.git;a=blob;f=scripts/dumpbz;h=75a402b6686073b2e08ced5a1da60f374c18ef1e;hb=27fbc2ee4710d7f5a28a77154255bd75faac8a44 
        + hope to have whole state of fdo bugs locally by then.
    + possibly other targets for that ...
    + need to merge bibisect repos, update bibisect docs (Bjoern taking over)
        + likely needs more space on dev-downloads, but infra is on that AFAIK
 
* QA stats:
  + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
    +153    -144        (+9 overall)
    many thanks to the top bug squashers:
        Jorendc             26
        sophie              12
        m.a.riosv           10
        Foss                10
        Björn Michaelsen     9
        Andras Timar         7
        Adolfo Jayme         7
        Caolán McNamara      5
        Julien Nabet         4
        Kohei Yoshida        3
        Stephan Bergmann     3
        Markus Mohrhard      3
 
* Open 4.3 MAB
  + 0/1 1/1 1/1 1/1
  + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=75025&hide_resolved=1
 
* Open 4.2 MAB
  + 20/112 19/111 20/111 18/104 17/102 17/99 18/97 19/95 18/85 17/70
     17%    17%    18%    17%    16%    17%   18%   20%   21%   24%
  + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=65675&hide_resolved=1
 
* Open 4.1 MAB
  + 79/206 84/206 85/206 86/204 81/198 80/197 37/149 37/149 34/144
     38%    40%    41%    42%    40%    40%    24%    24%    23%
  + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=60270&hide_resolved=1
 
* Open 4.0 MAB
  + all migrated to 4.1
 
* Bibisected bugs open: whiteboard 'bibsected'
  + 38/185 40/185 39/182 39/181 40/180 40/180 42/180 42/179 43/178
    + http://bit.ly/VQfF3Q
 
* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
    + 333(-6) bugs open of 2427(+13) total
    * ~Component   count net *
           Writer - 87 (-3)
      Spreadsheet - 57 (+3)
     Presentation - 30 (-2)
      Libreoffice - 26 (-2)
         Database - 25 (+1)
          Crashes - 21 (-1)
          Drawing - 13 (+0)
          Borders - 13 (+0)
        Migration -  3 (+0)
            BASIC -  3 (-2)
  + http://bit.ly/15mM2Yn - for devs ( no NEEDINFO / UNCONFIRMED )
  + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=regression%2C%20&keywords_type=allwords&resolution=---&query_format=advanced&product=LibreOffice&list_id=36764

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