minutes of ESC call ...
Michael Meeks
michael.meeks at collabora.com
Thu May 22 08:57:34 PDT 2014
* Present
+ Christian, Stephan, Bjoern, Norbert, Eike, Andras, Fridrich, Miklos,
Michael M, Jacobo, Robinson, Eilidh, Markus, Caolan, Tor, Adam,
Michael S, Norbert, Kendy
* Completed Action Items
+ send address sanitiser example (Markus)
+ http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice/2014-May/061142.html
+ chasing build / test intermittency:
[ seem to have vanished ]
+ Add StarOffice OOoXML export removal to 4.2 release notes (Cloph)
+ Add students to the commiter group (Norbert)
+ Avoiding big binary checkins (update git hook) (Miklos)
[ assuming good faith - chatty message to help people ]
+ walk through old gerrit changes, nag people, abandon changes (Bjoern)
[ done before branch-off, some will be abandoned in a week cf. note,
could expire these automatically - auto-abandon ? ]
+ fix git importing service (Kendy)
* Pending Action Items:
+ crashtest box - more research (Moggi/Cloph)
[ ongoing ]
+ encourage icon authors to put them into git (Astron)
+ fix the Java bridge for MSVC2012 for 4.3 (Michael S.)
[ current plan to do before the branch-off ... (bit late) ]
+ create easy hack to find an auto-abandon config/setting for a gerrit (Bjoern)
+ schedule a new coverity build (moggi)
[ tried during the weekend,
coverity analysis takes longer than 24hours etc. (Caolan)
+ may change the timeout to 36 hours ?
+ have enabled debugging so coverity can see asserts
+ not the problem still timing out ... ]
* GSOC Update (Fridrich)
+ started on Monday.
+ poke Fridrich / Cedric if no sign of students.
+ should have sent telephone contacts already.
+ please give them a welcome & help to get spun up.
+ all going well.
* FISL Brazil Update (Fridrich)
+ huge event, FOSDEM but in Latin America, and no dev-rooms.
+ several big halls for keynotes
+ LibreOffice well represented: several talks
+ Document Liberation & Flat ODF promoted by Fridrich
+ FISL release of LibreOffice etc.
+ great work there, huge community.
* Release Engineering update (Christian)
+ 4.3.0 Beta 1 status
+ tagged yesterday.
+ branch libreoffice-4-3 created
+ Windows build delayed, will be tonight / tomorrow
+ MacOS 10.6 needed a patch, not exactly the tag
+ only Beta1 -> no need for a separate tag.
+ investigating Windows test failures (spellchecking)
+ a python issue related to UI mode - not seen when
running from the terminal; different return value
internally; around stdout/in etc.
+ now patched.
http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/tree/external/python3/python-3.3.3-py17797.patch.1
+ will run on XP and later without crashing.
+ currently a problem with Java runtime on Windows XP
+ problems with Tools->Macros->Python ... tries to init
Java VM.
AI: + create / promote a 4.3 MAB for WinXP/Java (Cloph)
+ 4.2.5 RC1 status ...
+ deadline next Monday: get fixes into gerrit so on the radar ...
+ ... Now Feature Frozen ...
+ tripple approval needed for new features.
+ bug bug fixes welcome on the branch with no review.
+ Late features ?
+ libreofficekit bits / rename etc.
+ OpenGL pieces / status
+ experimentalising 3D chart bits.
+ impress work as well.
+ some changes in language listbox (Eike)
+ switching to a combo-box, so can enter an arbitrary lang_tag
+ due today.
+ preserving & rendering OOXML Artistic Effects (Jacobo)
+ Android / iOS remote
+ will build a new version with buttons to start/exit remote
ptr. feature.
+ Credits update:
http://www.libreoffice.org/about-us/credits/
+ crediting translators (Cloph)
+ pointing to the pootle page, that lists translators.
https://translations.documentfoundation.org/about/contributors/
AI: + should link to it there (Cloph)
+ page is usually updated for a final release when we update
the source code.
+ some bugs:
+ 'Contributors to Bundled Templates' - oddly coloured heading.
+ can we separate rows better for readability ?
+ embolden bold name perhaps ?
* 4.3 Features Page (Michael)
+ https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/4.3
* UX Update (Bjoern)
+ getting into the start menu a 'get involved' button
-> a help / extensions -> in start center
+ add a get involved button linking to the web / feedback page
+ or replace the help button in the start center (not the prime context for help).
* Distro branches & commits (Michael)
+ it would be great to see what others are doing in distro branches
so everyone's product is in git.
+ have to work on a quilt patch queue (Bjoern)
+ has a script to do this to/fro.
+ but that would be a rebase for each roundtrip ...
+ half of the patches are Debian pkging specific.
+ relatively few patches (Caolan)
+ some patches adjust things to specific deps, so it
doesn't build with a normal 'make' (Bjoern)
+ can we give commit access to these guys ? (Michael)
+ can have a group in gerrit for a specific branch ? (Norbert)
+ already have the distro top-level distro/ ...
+ expect normally people to have commit access, but for special
cases use the group (Norbert)
+ do we really need it ? can't we give a hard stare (Stephan)
+ offer full access.
AI: + can we teach the IRC bot. to not show distro commits (Miklos)
* Crashtest update (Markus)
http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/crashtest/91821848a3a50229b8b96e91e9eb053a8ebc5d9a/
+ calc seems reasonably good still,
+ writer has some issues & validation bits around DOCX etc.
+ around 75%+ invalid currently.
+ worth noting validation is vs. strict (Miklos)
+ we export transitional etc.
+ some elements written twice, and ordering issues.
* Certification Committee (Stephan/Bjoern/Kendy)
* C++11 for 4.4 ? (Stephan)
* Decided that 4.3 is the last version for OSX 10.6
+ would love to drop 10.7 too (Norbert)
+ PPC is currently a volunteer effort, publishing builds.
+ is there any 32bit only hardware (Michael)
+ yes, but not supported by Apple for a while (Norbert)
+ good to quantify the size of that pool (Michael)
+ 10.8 & 10.9 -> 80% of the market today.
+ we have only one 10.6 build box today ...
* Also concerned wrt. Linux / CentOS builds
+ do we want to bundle libstdc++ again ?
+ or can we pull up the Linux baseline ?
+ makes sense to have RHEL6 as the baseline (Michael S)
+ gcc doesn't support it there, but gets rid of KDE3
and allows KDE4 enabling
* Decision is to punt to the future post 4.3 etc.
* Hackfests (Bjoern)
+ Paris Hackfest:
+ June 27-28th
+ please add yourself to the wiki:
+ https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Hackfest/Paris2014
+ next earliest possible slot: November/December 2014
+ open candidates: Cambridge, Hamburg, Freiburg (Las Palmas d GC again in spring?)
* QA (Robinson)
+ Many (64) bibisected regressions
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&query_format=advanced&status_whiteboard=bibisected&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&order=changeddate%20DESC%2Cop_sys%2Cbug_status%2Cpriority%2Cassigned_to%2Cbug_id&list_id=426069
+ waiting for developer attention ...
+ NeedAdvice:
+ Font rendering issues in KDE: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=59818
+ asked Lubos to help out
+ buzilla migration (Norbert)
+ when its good enough will go back to Tollef for a real date.
[ Norbert currently crushed by a work cycle ]
+ need to get bugzilla migration bits under gerrit so we can get patches.
+ QA team eager to help out.
+ Bug Hunting Session, May 23-25, prepare for impact ...
+ bibisect repos updated for 4.3 right up to the branch point.
+ full repo for 4.3 ready to go right now.
+ tinderbox administrators:
AI: + LibreOffice 4.3 - please add yourself to branch
* QA stats:
+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
+179 -171 (+8 overall)
many thanks to the top bug squashers:
Joel Madero 21
Jorendc 17
Kohei Yoshida 16
Maxim Monastirsky 14
Florian Effenberger 10
Christian Lohmaier 6
m.a.riosv 6
tommy27 6
Michael Stahl 5
Tomaz Vajngerl 4
* Open 4.3 MAB
+ 4/12 2/8 3/7 2/5 1/2 1/2 0/1 0/1 1/1 1/1 1/1
+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=3D75025&hide_resolved=3D1
* Open 4.2 MAB
+ 64/190 62/184 49/165 18/128 19/124 18/123 24/120 20/112 19/111 20/111
33% 33% 29% 14% 15% 14% 20% 17% 17% 18%
+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=3D65675&hide_resolved=3D1
* Open 4.1 MAB
+ 13/151 18/155 43/179 76/208 78/208 78/208 79/208 79/206 84/206 85/206
8% 11% 24% 36% 37% 37% 37% 38% 40% 41%
+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=3D60270&hide_resolved=3D1
* Bibisected bugs open: whiteboard 'bibsected'
+ 48/215 45/208 46/207 47/201 47/198 46/197 39/189 38/185 40/185 39/182 39/181
+ http://bit.ly/VQfF3Q
* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
+ 309(-10) bugs open of 2586(+24) total
~Component count net *
Writer - 87 (+5)
Spreadsheet - 32 (-15)
Crashes - 27 (+4)
Presentation - 22 (+0)
Libreoffice - 21 (+2)
Database - 21 (+0)
UI - 20 (+0)
Borders - 14 (+0)
Graphics - 13 (-3)
Drawing - 12 (+0)
Print / PDF - 9 (+0)
Filters - 9 (+0)
Chart - 9 (-2)
Extensions - 5 (+0)
framework - 3 (+1)
Formula - 3 (+0)
Linguistic - 3 (+0)
BASIC - 3 (+0)
Installation - 2 (+0)
Migration - 2 (+0)
sdk - 0 (+0)
Impress Remote - 0 (+0)
+ http://bit.ly/15mM2Yn - for devs ( no NEEDINFO / UNCONFIRMED )
+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=3Dregression%2C%20&=keywords_type=3Dallwords&resolution=3D---&query_format=3Dadvanced&product==3DLibreOffice&list_id=3D36764
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