minutes of ESC call ...
michael.meeks at collabora.com
Thu Nov 6 08:10:49 PST 2014
+ Stephan, Lionel, Jan-Marek, Bjoern, Andras, Miklos, Michael M,
Norbert, David, Michael S, Eike, Muthu, Christian, Caolan, Markus
* Completed Action Items:
+ poke JBF - what is the status here ? (Michael)
+ push the new sorting default to libreoffice-4-2 branch (Andras)
[ also back-ported Kohei's subsequent reference fix (Michael) ]
+ work out how to use VM's (ssh bob at 126.96.36.199) (all hack-fest mentors)
[ cloph & Robinson to document ]
+ get a clear use-case & description of what doesn't work vs. master wrt. Calc sorting (JBF)
[ made a beautiful spreadsheet of the issues:
* Pending Action Items:
+ look at regressions associated with a SUSE bugzilla bugfix (Timar)
+ mention calc sorting issue in the 4.2.7 / 4.3.3 release notes (Cloph)
+ build pre-canned downloadable VM's for Tolouse (Cloph)
[ creating VirtualBox images ]
* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
+ 4.4 Alpha 2 status
+ going to kick-off the builds today.
+ what's it about ? (Bjoern)
+ horrible Windows issue wrt. Alpha1 (Cloph)
+ 4.3.next - calc / sort release ?
+ 4.3.4 RC1 - nominally Nov 24th
+ proposal to accelerate this & do an out-of-order release.
+ can squeeze an earlier release in (Cloph)
+ can do a tag for 4.3.4 RC1 next week
+ see if one RC is enough ?
AI: + look at sorting spreadsheet / use-cases etc. (Eike)
+ 4.4.0 Beta 1 / Feature Freeze / adjust ?
+ lots coming in from Collabora, track at-risks next week.
+ Android / iOS Remote
* Crashtest update (Markus)
+ futures / Manitu ordering update ? no update.
+ on same H/W that the new machine has (Cloph)
+ can do a complete I/O test cycle in 20 hrs
+ with new / much improved parallelism
+ 640 jobs, one each thread
+ down to around 3x days - locally.
+ still need to adapt the script that generates CSV files
+ layout of files on the server changed.
+ now at 64k files.
+ got some additional files from Caolan for the next run.
+ if you have non-public files, that we should test
+ can up-load to a server & sync. to the crashtesting VM
+ mail Markus ...
+ have some more obscure formats in the crash-testing previously ignored
+ we detect the file-type before exporting.
+ and handle more odd / corner-case types
+ what is the worst single job ? (Norbert)
+ average of 33mins per job. (Markus)
+ how to spend spare cycles doing testing ? (Norbert)
+ need to port the script to Mac etc. (Markus)
+ also need to download the document collection
+ every 4-8 weeks we update and get another one-two thousand files.
+ http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/crashtest/013ec10d4e89e86cbd53a88058defb7e97ebaa49/ (25-Oct-2014)
+ newer report vs. the abstract directories -> re-spinning.
+ Toulouse Hackfest (Arnaud)
+ Confirmed for Nov. 15-16th
+ more details: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Hackfest/Toulouse2014
+ budget reserved (Eur 2k) - poke Bjoern.
+ Munich hack-fest (Jan-Marek):
+ jmux (IRC) can add you if you don't want to create an account
+ will have a BSP come-together; if someone says they're coming
just show up etc.
+ November 21st-23rd, 2014
+ we should drop by with 2 or 3 developers, if possible
+ 35 or so registrations - looking fun.
+ Need further offers [!] ...
+ propose Collabora / Cambridge (Michael)
+ should consider Las Palmas de Gran Canaria/University again (Bjoern)
+ Freiburg - also an option (prolly better in summer anyway (Bjoern)
* FOSDEM bits
+ 20 minute slots (good to collect talks)
+ please consider filing by mid. December !
+ Volunteer needed to book / run the hackfest afterwards.
* UX Update (Kendy)
+ default option of sorting / reference update (Kohei)
+ set to false for now - the old behavior
AI: + commit to master (Kendy)
+ otherwise, being able to set it while sorting; but
unclear if there is time to do that.
+ sidebar - will hide it a bit: just icons by default.
+ don't want it there by default: lots of screen estate
+ its openend for styles eg.
+ lots of smaller cleanups going on, lots of good things.
+ one result of the surveys: copy/cut/paste
+ won't do any changes for this release; more measurement needed.
* Certification (Stephan/Bjoern/Kendy)
+ asked new guys - 2x happy to be certified:
+ Jan-Marek Glogowski, Samuel Mehrbrodt
* Bugzilla migration (Bjoern)
+ discussed it in Seattle; goal 12th November
+ redmine - has a list of missing pieces; unclear when we're moving.
+ https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/issues/751 meta-task
+ timing is increasingly non-ideal now wrt. major release work
+ new target for after 4.4.1
* Jenkins research (Norbert)
+ experimenting with a local version that mirrors to public version
+ been starting with Mac's - and since this morning, a couple of Windows
+ currently churns builds.
+ starting to gather other resource
+ in 2x weeks - ran 409 gerrit builds, and 321 tinderbox builds.
+ 3x Mac and 2x Windows
+ can see in gerrit - messages about starting / completing the build.
+ will see all 3x platforms pass or fail eventually.
+ still a WIP, some issues around it
+ need to find some way to bring it into TDF infrastructure.
+ as long as it doesn't vote +1 or -1 on verification
+ feel free to ignore for now.
+ every new patch in gerrit triggers a build
+ would need a gerrit plugin to "merge if builds"
+ could do it as a remote plugin (Bjoern)
* QA (Bjoern)
+ UNCONFIRMED bug count down to 648 (!!!) on 2014-10-31
+ big thanks to all our triagers !
+ couple of new people actively helping
+ Alpha1 bibisect repository is built locally
+ will try to push that out shortly.
* QA stats:
+167 -184 (-17 overall)
many thanks to the top bug squashers:
QA Administrators 70
Maxim Monastirsky 10
Joel Madero 8
Jay Philips 8
Caolán McNamara 6
Cor Nouws 6
Julien Nabet 5
Adolfo Jayme 5
* Open 4.4 MAB
+ 3/16 3/16 4/16 5/15 4/14 3/12 3/12 3/12 7/12 3/8 3/8 4/8 4/8 3/7 3/7
* Open 4.3 MAB
+ 16/64 16/64 15/63 16/63 16/60 17/61 16/60 14/59 15/58 12/54 13/53 14/52
25% 18% 23% 25% 26% 27% 26% 23% 25% 22% 24% 26%
* Open 4.2 MAB
+ 81/263 84/262 82/260 80/260 82/260 86/257 88/257 89/257 91/257 86/252
30% 32% 31% 30% 31% 33% 35% 34% 35% 34%
* Bibisected bugs open: whiteboard 'bibsected'
+ 173/446 170/441 161/427 153/413 154/410 147/401 143/392 143/389 146/385
* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
+ 494(-2) bugs open of 3178(+13) total
* ~Component count net *
Writer - 149 (+2)
Spreadsheet - 99 (-2)
Presentation - 33 (-1)
Crashes - 31 (-2)
Database - 28 (+0)
UI - 26 (+1)
Libreoffice - 24 (+0)
Drawing - 22 (-1)
Graphics - 22 (+0)
Borders - 19 (+0)
Filters - 19 (+1)
Chart - 14 (+1)
Print / PDF - 13 (-1)
Extensions - 5 (+0)
Linguistic - 4 (+0)
BASIC - 4 (+0)
Installation - 4 (-1)
Formula - 3 (+0)
framework - 1 (+0)
sdk - 0 (+0)
Impress Remote - 0 (+0)
+ http://bit.ly/15mM2Yn - for devs ( no NEEDINFO / UNCONFIRMED )
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