Minutes of ESC call: 2014-10-16
Jan Holesovsky
kendy at collabora.com
Fri Oct 17 02:13:12 PDT 2014
* Present: Caolán, Jacobo, Kendy, Andras, Miklos, Cloph, Muthu, Norbert, David, Bjoern, Robinson,
Thorsten, LibreBaby, Michael S., Stephan, Eike
* Completed Action Items:
+ review https://gerrit #/c/11700/ (Andras, Caolan, Cloph etc.)
+ acquired magic number from Redhat (Caolan)
+ back-port calc sorting option to 4.3 - and drop the UI bits (Michael)
[ pending review by Eike? ]
+ comment & close fdo#84352 for 4.4 (Norbert)
* Pending Action Items:
+ Ask Bjoern B. to do a survey on the wrench icons (Kendy)
+ get BZ migration roadmap done before Seattle Hackfest (Robinson)
+ https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/issues/591
+ get a clear use-case & description of what doesn't work vs. master wrt. Calc sorting (JBF)
* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
+ 4.2.7 RC2
+ tagged yesterday, still building on Windows
+ will be announced later today
+ 4.3.3 RC2 is in ~1x weeks.
+ anything open there? (Bjoern)
+ quite a few for 4.3.x, but nothing for 4.3.3
+ 4.4
+ tomorrow the 1st Alpha: from master
+ feature freeze 5 weeks away still
+ should we use VS 2013 for that?
+ not sure what's the current state in master
+ IIRC the idea was to use the same as LLVM - that is 2012 (Miklos)
+ maybe better C++11 support? (Norbert)
+ there was a compiler bug that was not present in 2013 (Cloph)
+ some benefits of using 2013 (Stephan)
+ tinderboxes? (Norbert)
+ have both on my tinderbox (Cloph)
+ what about others?
+ the idea of alpha is to test if the tooling is in shape (Kendy)
+ conclusion: let's try to build Alpha with 2013 & see
+ Android Remote
* Crashtest update (Miklos)
+ http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/crashtest/86c4762790823c338f018fb2f06c4a5fa4497916/ (13-Oct-2014)
+ several hundred crashers caused by tools refactoring / boost (Miklos)
+ actually it was caused by another commit (David)
+ now fixed (Miklos)
+ the next round should be better again
+ the remaining is nothing outstanding
* Writer Regression Status (Bjoern)
+ went through the regressions (Bjoern)
+ 55 new worth bibisecting; the rest somehow bibisected or so pre-triaged
+ Norbert's new OSX bibisect repo going to the deeper history may be helpful too
AI + take-away for QA: bring the prebibisect ones to the OSX QA guys (Robinson)
AI + take-away for QA: focus on the ~half of these that is older than 2014-08 (Robinson)
+ some "regressions" are just a change of behavior
AI + Andras will have a look at those identified to a SUSE bugzilla bugfix
+ if the original behavior was only by luck / chance, worth closing as wontfix (Bjoern)
+ need a bugzilla query for the bugs that have been bisected to a single commit (Miklos)
AI + can do that (Bjoern)
+ we have a keyword "bisected", can use that for those with exact commit
+ done: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=NEW&component=Writer&keywords=bisected%2C%20&keywords_type=allwords&list_id=481507&product=LibreOffice&query_format=advanced
* LibreOffice 4.4 bibisects repo creation (Bjoern)
+ Bjoern creating, but Robinson should take over
+ but has time for that? - bugzilla migration a priority... (Bjoern)
+ Bjoern can do that at the time of the tag, but then is traveling
+ will update the baseline to Ubuntu 14.04 LTS
+ and not add to the 10GB 43all repo. Lets start a new repo with this release and baseline
+ we are still stuck with gcc 4.6 anyway (Stephan)
+ the old binary will still work on the 14.04 LTS (Norbert)
+ use Amazon's EC2? (Cloph)
+ can only update the baseline, and run it, nothing more (Bjoern)
* Hackfests
+ Seattle 'Libre-Fest' (Robinson)
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Events/2014/Seattle_LibreFest
+ October 26, 2014
+ ~20 people anticipated
+ Cloph can provide virtual machines for the hackfest on EC2
AI + poke Cloph for access (Robinson)
+ Robinson will bring the bibisect repo locally, so that it is not
necessary to download 10G
+ Toulouse Hackfest (Arnaud)
+ Confirmed for Nov. 15-16th
+ more details: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Hackfest/Toulouse2014
+ budget reserved (Eur 2k) - poke Bjoern.
+ [ just booked - Michael ]
+ Munich hack-fest (Jan-Marek):
http://www.it-muenchen-blog.de/2014/07/bug-squashing-party-2014/
+ jmux (IRC) can add you if you don't want to create an account
+ will have a BSP come-together; if someone says they're coming
just show up etc.
+ November 21st-23rd, 2014
https://wiki.debian.org/BSP/2014/11/de/Munich
+ we should drop by with 2 or 3 developers, if possible
+ [ just booked - Michael ]
* UX Update (Kendy)
+ cut/copy/paste - going to have a survey
* Open-source related projects for a local university (Jacobo)
+ ~200-300 hours projects sought
+ ideas appreciated!
+ please send to the ML too :-) (Norbert)
+ GSoC ideas that did not materialize yet? (Kendy)
+ the time shorter than GSoC - so only smaller ones (Miklos)
+ has to be mentored in Spanish unfortunately, so just Jacobo mentoring
+ potential for 1-2 only
* QA (Robinson)
+ UNCONFIRMED bug count down to 799
+ NEW bug count down to <7800 (<5600 excluding enhancements)
+ nothing serious on the radar otherwise
+ will make sure to check the MAB's for 4.3 (Robinson)
* QA stats:
+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
+129 -122 (+7 overall)
many thanks to the top bug squashers:
Caolán McNamara 20
Jean-Baptiste Faure 16
Julien Nabet 11
Cor Nouws 6
tommy27 5
raal 4
Samuel Mehrbrodt 4
Jay Philips 4
Adolfo Jayme 4
Andras Timar 4
* Open 4.4 MAB
+ 5/15 4/14 3/12 3/12 3/12 7/12 3/8 3/8 4/8 4/8 3/7 3/7 2/5
+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=79641&hide_resolved=1
* Open 4.3 MAB
+ 16/63 16/60 17/61 16/60 14/59 15/58 12/54 13/53 14/52 14/50 11/47 14/47
25% 26% 27% 26% 23% 25% 22% 24% 26% 28% 23% 29%
+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=75025&hide_resolved=1
* Open 4.2 MAB
+ 80/260 82/260 86/257 88/257 89/257 91/257 86/252 82/245 83/244 83/243
30% 31% 33% 35% 34% 35% 34% 33% 34% 34%
+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=65675&hide_resolved=1
* Bibisected bugs open: whiteboard 'bibsected'
+ 153/413 154/410 147/401 143/392 143/389 146/385 142/375 141/374 136/361
+ http://bit.ly/VQfF3Q
* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
+ 484(-4) bugs open of 3109(+10) total
* ~Component count net *
Writer - 147 (-4)
Spreadsheet - 95 (-1)
Presentation - 32 (+0)
Crashes - 32 (+1)
Database - 25 (+0)
Drawing - 24 (+5)
UI - 24 (+1)
Libreoffice - 24 (+0)
Graphics - 22 (-1)
Borders - 19 (+0)
Filters - 18 (+0)
Print / PDF - 14 (+0)
Chart - 10 (+0)
Extensions - 5 (+0)
Linguistic - 4 (+0)
Installation - 4 (+0)
BASIC - 4 (-1)
Formula - 3 (-1)
framework - 1 (+0)
sdk - 0 (+0)
Impress Remote - 0 (+0)
+ http://bit.ly/15mM2Yn - for devs ( no NEEDINFO / UNCONFIRMED )
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