Minutes of ESC call: 2015-04-02

Jan Holesovsky kendy at collabora.com
Fri Apr 3 09:51:32 PDT 2015


* Present:
    + Sophie, Nobert, Muthu, Christian, Robinson, Stephan, Miklos, Markus,
      Kendy, Bjoern, Michael S., Thorsten, Bubli

* Completed Action Items:
    + poke Mathiew wrt. Windows / locking bug & revert if no response (Michael S)
        https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=72337
        [ Michael S. updated the patch - now controlled by an env. var at least ]
        https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/15118/
    + if you have photos from ESC meetings during LibOCon, please send them to Sophie
        [ Kendy has one & sent ]
    + send list C't recommended extensions to the design list (Bjoern)
        [ sent to Kendy ]
 
* Pending Action Items:
    + please file an Easy-Hack this week: just a bug with whiteboard: (All)
            "EasyHack DifficultyBeginner SkillCpp TopicCleanup"
        + thanks to: David, Markus, Matthew, Stephan
                + http://bit.ly/1KR4HWX
    + make sure to create a new openid if you are using the Google openID (all)
        [ still need to get this done ! ]
    + clear old patches rotting on gerrrit (all)
        https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/q/status:open+project:core+branch:master+%28label:Code-Review%253D-1+OR+label:Code-Review%253D-2%29+age:6week,n,z
        http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/LibreOffice-Gerrit-News-for-core-on-2015-03-23-td4144131.html
        [ link to patches that are older than 6 weeks.
          Abandoning gets them off the list - but you can always re-vitalize them.
AI:       Rescue your patch now - or have it abandoned for you by next week (Bjoern)
          will wait one more week ]
    + poke Italo wrt. Android remote now supporting watches (Cloph)
        [ pending on screenshots ]
    + Cambridge hackfest - poke about students (Michael)
 
* GSoC (Cedric/Fridrich)
    + students review & ranking: deadline April 13th
        + what's the process?
        + new column in the overview - easy to see who hasn't have an easy hack (Miklos)
        + need to filter out those that clearly do not fit the rules (Kendy)
        + some sorting already going on in Melange (Bjoern)
    + Wiki page for tasks:
        https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Gsoc/Ideas
 
* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
    + 4.4.2 released as final today
    + 4.4.3 RC1 status April 13th
    + 4.3.7 RC1 April 7th or so
        + planned for the next Wed.
    + 5.0.0 - 1st Alpha release - April 13th
         + week after 4.3.7
         + marketing supports this
         + how about the profile - still call it 4? (Kendy)
             + so that we do not have to care about the migration? (Kendy)
AI:          + will check with Italo the exact version number [5.0 or 5.0.0] (Cloph)
AI:          + check if it's possible to still have the profile as 4
               (technically - configure.ac etc.) (Cloph)
                  + should "just work," given the "4" in the user profile path name is only
                    hard-coded into the UserInstallation= line in the bootstrap ini-file (Stephan)
         + QA should be made aware of this too (Bjoern)
    + Windows 64 bit story ? (Stephan)
         + targeting this for Alpha 1 with Norbert (Cloph)
         + tinderbox will be ready for the Alpha
    + Android & iOS Remote
 
* Crashtest update (Markus / Caolán)
    + regression around xls export crashes
        + jumped recently from 5 to 130 - what's the status?
        + fixed by reverting the commit (Moggi)
        + never hit the release branches
    + a few thousand validation false positives gone
        + by updating the office-o-tron script
    + import crashes look great - ~20
        + export crashes still high, most in Writer
 
* Hackfests (Bjoern)
    + Cambridge, UK - May 2015 - contact (Michael)
            + 21st -> 23rd May confirmed. Thur / Fri / Sat.
            + Cambridge Beer Festival overlap / Punting Excursion planned etc.
              https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Hackfest/Cambridge2015
 
* UX Update (Kendy)
    + did not attend yesterday, sorry
 
* l10n Update (Sophie)
    + upgrading to new Pootle version: 2.5 -> 2.7
        + large migration; fixing / customizing the new version
        + will be tested the next week
    + old version still functional / online of course
 
* Committers
 
* Developer Certification (Stephan/Bjoern/Kendy/Thorsten)
    + looked at last year's commits; perhaps a few people.
        + 3 names so far, more research going on
 
* Jenkins update (Norbert)
    + from:Thu Mar 26 13:46:18 2015
        + master linux jobs:137 ok:114 ko:22 break:4 broken duration:9.6%
        + master mac   jobs:118 ok:98 ko:20 break:7 broken duration:10.84%
        + master win   jobs:123 ok:52 ko:71 break:5 broken duration:49.41%
        + lo-4.4 mac   jobs:16 ok:15 ko:1 break:1 broken duration:2.12%
    + the above is output from a script
    + goals for the numbers (Bjoern)
        + above percentage is the duration of brokeness, _not_
          the number of final push commit breakage (which is higher: e.g. above 15% for Linux)
        + would be good to have 10% as the goal for Linux (Bjoern)
            + that is achievable if people test their commits (Norbert)
        + discuss: in light of 50% breakage on Windows -- better suggest
          newcomers on Windows to start of the last tag? (Bjoern)
AI:     + extend the build guide how to check the tinderbox status and
          how to find the last working commit id there (Bjoern)
AI:     + there is IRC bot that could warn about the red status (Norbert)
        + usually new tests cause that - should they always go through gerrit? (Michael S.)
        + it is normally good to wait for the tinderbox results when you push something (Miklos)
    + jenkins works incrementally, usually it shows the commit that broke stuff (Norbert)
    + push to gerrit a revert to see if it helps? (Bjoern)
 
* QA (Robinson)
    + UNCONFIRMED at 311
    + needAdvice at 11
    + worked on bisecting
    + will have the OS X bibisect soon (Norbert)
        + that will cover 4.5 from the branch point to ~now
        + 6.5K commit so far.. prolly 7-8K commit when caught up.
 
* QA stats:
  + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
    +159    -261        (-102 overall)
    many thanks to the top bug squashers:
        QA Administrators     122
        Jean-Baptiste Faure   16
        Matthew Francis       10
        raal                   9
        Markus Wernig          7
        Beluga                 6
        Jay Philips            6
        Michael Stahl          5
        V Stuart Foote         5
        Adolfo Jayme           4
        Cor Nouws              4
        Eike Rathke            4
        Julien Nabet           4
        m.a.riosv              4
        Markus Mohrhard        4
 
* Open 4.5 MAB
  + 0/3 1/3 1/3 1/3 0/2 0/2 1/2 0/1 0/1 0/1 0/1
  + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=86696&hide_resolved=1
 
* Open 4.4 MAB
  + 14/51 14/50 13/49 15/49 14/48 13/47 12/46 16/44 16/43 16/40 14/38 11/34 6/26 6/24
     27%   28%   26%   30%   29%   27%   26%   36%   37%   40%   36%   32%  23%  25%
  + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=79641&hide_resolved=1
 
* Open 4.3 MAB
  + 78/163 76/160 78/160 79/160 77/158 77/158 76/158 77/156 77/155 78/155 86/154 84/152
     47%    47%    48%    49%    48%    48%    48%    49%    49%    50%    55%    55%
  + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=75025&hide_resolved=1
 
* Bibisected bugs open: whiteboard 'bibisected'
  + 291/737 275/719 259/701 264/699 267/698 261/687 252/662 241/650 228/627
    + http://bit.ly/VQfF3Q
 
* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
    + 503(+9) bugs open of 3580(+35) total
    * ~Component   count net *
                Writer - 172 (+4)
                  Calc - 101 (+2)
               Crashes - 35  (+9)
               Impress - 34  (+0)
           LibreOffice - 30  (+1)
                    UI - 28  (+3)
        graphics stack - 25  (+0)
                  Draw - 19  (+0)
               Borders - 16  (+0)
   filters and storage - 13  (+0)
                  Base - 13  (-1)
                 Chart - 10  (+0)
 Printing / PDF export -  9  (+0)
                 BASIC -  5  (+1)
        Formula Editor -  4  (+?)
             framework -  3  (-2)
            Extensions -  3  (+0)
          Installation -  2  (+0)
            Linguistic -  2  (+1)
                   sdk -  1  (+0)
        Impress Remote -  0  (+0)




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