minutes of ESC call ...
Michael Meeks
michael.meeks at collabora.com
Thu Apr 9 08:19:06 PDT 2015
* Present:
+ Andras, Jacobo, Markus, Michael M, Stephan, Muthu, Christian,
Sophie, Miklos, Kendy, Caolan, Miklos, Bjoern, Eike, Noel, David,
Robinson, Michael S
* Completed Action Items:
+ will check with Italo the exact version number [5.0 or 5.0.0] (Cloph)
[ should stay three digits as now: 5.0.0 ]
+ test if it's possible to still have the profile as 4 (Cloph)
[ no problem at all. Even hard-coded in the profile (Stephan) ].
+ clear old patches rotting on gerrrit (Bjoern)
https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/q/status:open+project:core+branch:master+%28label:Code-Review%253D-1+OR+label:Code-Review%253D-2%29+age:6week,n,z
http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/LibreOffice-Gerrit-News-for-core-on-2015-03-23-td4144131.html
[ closed the patches from last year already (Bjoern)
Rescue your patch now - or have it abandoned for you soon (Bjoern) ]
+ extend the build guide (Bjoern)
+ how to check the tinderbox status and
+ how to find the last working commit id there
* Pending Action Items:
+ please file an Easy-Hack this week: just a bug with whiteboard: (All)
"EasyHack DifficultyBeginner SkillCpp TopicCleanup"
+ thanks to: Eike
+ http://bit.ly/1KR4HWX
+ make sure to create a new openid if you are using the Google openID (all)
[ still need to get this done ! ]
+ provide Italo wrt. Android remote watch screenshots (Cloph)
+ Cambridge hackfest - poke about students (Michael)
[ poked Doree - to find contacts in Cambridge ]
+ IRC bot that could warn about the red status (Norbert)
AI: + rename @since tags to 5.0 (Stephan)
AI: + mail Michael a new shortened bibisected bugs link (Cloph)
* GSoC (Cedric)
+ students review & ranking: deadline April 13th
+ what's the process?
+ new column in the overview - easy to see who hasn't have an easy hack (Miklos)
+ need to filter out those that clearly do not fit the rules (Kendy)
+ some sorting already going on in Melange (Bjoern)
AI: + Mentors - please rank GSOC projects [all]
+ Kendy, Muthu and David doing ranking.
+ 6 of top 10 proposals so far mentored by Kendy.
+ new / volunteer mentors appreciated.
+ we have around 11x good proposals.
+ Number of slots request
+ due by end of the week: Sunday / Monday.
+ have a hard & a soft slot maximum; at least <X> at most <Y>
+ set 10x at least, and left 2x more for those at '3'
+ and 4-5 returning students with good easy-hacks committed.
+ some duplicate proposals in the top 10 need reconciling.
+ downgraded one proposal - because we want the other (Kendy)
+ mark 1st proposal as ignored ? (Cedric)
+ Wiki page for tasks:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Gsoc/Ideas
* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
+ 4.3.7 RC1 status April 13th
+ not tagged yet, network issues,
a few patches left to be reviewed, running a
build to verify them.
+ expect the tag at 8-9pm European time.
+ the last supported release.
+ can we fast-track RC2 ? (Bjoern)
AI: + come up with a new 4.3.7 RC2 plan (Cloph)
+ 4.4.3
+ early next week, tag for RC1
+ planned for the next Wed.
+ 5.0.0 - 1st Alpha release - April 13th
+ week after 4.3.7
+ marketing supports this
+ UX freeze is not until June 15th ...
+ Windows 64 bit update ?
+ played locally; working fine - need to push to the
VM server, should be submitting results Friday.
+ Matus added mergelib builds for Windows.
AI: + test & turn that on by default for the 5.0 Alpha (Cloph)
+ what operating systems should be supported by
the official releases ? (Michael S)
+ require at least Vista for 64bit Windows
+ XP we have a separate file & folder picker foo.
+ leave XP as 32bit Windows baseline.
AI: + add it to the prototype release notes (Michael S)
=> decided.
+ Android & iOS Remote
+ new version to the production channel, fixing a
couple of nullptr exceptions seen in the play crashreporter.
* Crashtest update (Caolán)
+ import ~11 issues, mostly duplicates.
+ started looking at low-hanging fruit in export (Caolan)
+ asan test run results announced
+ caolan already fixed 1 of 2x issues found (Markus)
+ import crash investigation (Stephan)
+ those not marked as through disposed - of those
remaining - running them locally on asan+ubsan
doesn't produce any problems either.
+ not sure how useful the data is
+ related to high load on the machine (Markus)
+ import.txt - false positives due to over-high load on machine.
+ export.txt - all normal issues - already imported the file (Markus)
+ if an export one is not reproducible - mail markus &
he'll test on the server.
+ hard to debug / work on how to test this stuff (Stephan)
+ hard to know how to reproduce this.
+ having the URL to the bug doc would help ? (Michael)
+ having a link to the captured output ? (Stephan)
+ randomly looked at the mail, hard to make sense of it.
+ links to those which produced asan error messages.
+ ubsan will follow next week
+ lower load will fix false positives mostly.
* Hackfests (Bjoern)
+ Cambridge, UK - May 2015 - contact (Michael)
+ 21st -> 23rd May confirmed. Thur / Fri / Sat.
+ Cambridge Beer Festival overlap / Punting Excursion planned etc.
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Hackfest/Cambridge2015
+ next venues / suggestions ?
* UX Update (Kendy)
+ Accordion widget - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accordion_%28GUI%29
+ want it, something that expands vertically to reveal different panes.
+ discussing, is it compatible etc. ?
+ how can it be supported in various OS' we have currently.
+ mockup a POC implementation.
+ manual expansion for "show more options" eg.
+ branding discussion for 5.0
+ thought of run a competition as we did for templates
+ reach out to some known designers first.
+ for splash / start / about graphics.
* l10n Update (Sophie)
+ Pootle upgrade is done to 2.7 - needs testing.
* Committers
* Developer Certification (Stephan/Bjoern/Kendy/Thorsten)
+ 3-4 proposed names under discussion; perhaps more to come.
* Jenkins update (Norbert)
from:Thu Apr 2 11:17:19 2015
master linux jobs:135 ok:116 ko:18 fail ratio:13.33% break:8 broken duration:7.21%
master mac jobs:108 ok:90 ko:18 fail ratio:16.66% break:11 broken duration:13.35%
master win jobs:110 ok:96 ko:14 fail ratio:12.72% break:6 broken duration:5.72%
lo-4.4 mac jobs:16 ok:14 ko:2 fail ratio:12.5% break:2 broken duration:2.4%
gerrit win jobs:125 ok:91 ko:34 fail ratio:27.2%
gerrit lin jobs:126 ok:99 ko:27 fail ratio:21.42%
gerrit mac jobs:124 ok:95 ko:29 fail ratio:23.38%
gerrit all jobs:124 ok:66 ko:58 fail ratio:46.77%
+ looks better this week (Bjoern)
* Larger Scale Renames (Kendy)
+ is it late enough in the release cycle or not ?
+ world's biggest VclPtr work first please ! (Michael)
+ what do we have queued up ?
+ targetted writer class renames (Kendy)
AI: + post a list of what we'd like to rename (All)
+ e.g. SwFrm -> sw::Frame would be problematic (Miklos)
* QA (Robinson)
+ UNCONFIRMED at 304
+ needAdvice at 11
+ mjayfrancis burning through the regressions & working on bibisect
+ "Regression Triage" - Categorize all open, confirmed bugs into one of:
+ "Inherited from OOo" (no change in behavior since LO creation)
+ regression (commit changed existing, working behavior)
+ implementationError (bug in initial implementation of new feature)
=> gives a better understanding of where they came from ?
+ More accurate regression stats
+ OS X bibisect (Norbert)
* QA stats:
+115 -110 (+5 overall)
many thanks to the top bug squashers:
Julien Nabet 18
Caolán McNamara 11
Matthew Francis 9
raal 8
Michael Stahl 6
Adolfo Jayme 6
Beluga 6
A (Andy) 6
Markus Mohrhard 4
Alex Thurgood 3
Miklos Vajna 3
m.a.riosv 3
Rpnpif 2
Timur 2
Marc Pare 2
* Open 5.0 MAB
+ 2/5 0/3 1/3 1/3 1/3 0/2 0/2 1/2 0/1 0/1 0/1 0/1
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=86696&hide_resolved=1
* Open 4.4 MAB
+ 15/52 14/51 14/50 13/49 15/49 14/48 13/47 12/46 16/44 16/43 16/40 14/38 11/34 6/26 6/24
28% 27% 28% 26% 30% 29% 27% 26% 36% 37% 40% 36% 32% 23% 25%
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=79641&hide_resolved=1
* Open 4.3 MAB
+ 79/163 78/163 76/160 78/160 79/160 77/158 77/158 76/158 77/156 77/155 78/155 86/154 84/152
48% 47% 47% 48% 49% 48% 48% 48% 49% 49% 50% 55% 55%
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=75025&hide_resolved=1
* Bibisected bugs open: whiteboard 'bibisected'
+ 321/798 291/737 275/719 259/701 264/699 267/698 261/687 252/662 241/650 228/627
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&f1=status_whiteboard&f2=status_whiteboard&f3=status_whiteboard&list_id=530729&o1=substring&o2=notregexp&o3=notregexp&order=component%2Cbug_id&product=LibreOffice&query_based_on=LibreOffice%20Bi-bisected&query_format=advanced&resolution=---&v1=bibisected&v2=bibisected[0-9]*older&v3=bibisected[0-9]*newer
* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
+ 527(+24) bugs open of 3629(+48) total
* ~Component count net *
Writer - 181 (+9)
Calc - 105 (+4)
Crashes - 41 (+6)
Impress - 35 (+1)
LibreOffice - 32 (+2)
UI - 26 (-2)
graphics stack - 24 (-1)
Draw - 23 (+4)
Borders - 16 (+0)
Base - 15 (+2)
filters and storage - 12 (-1)
Chart - 11 (+1)
Printing / PDF export - 9 (+0)
BASIC - 6 (+1)
framework - 4 (+1)
Extensions - 4 (+1)
Formula Editor - 4 (+0)
Installation - 2 (+0)
Linguistic - 2 (+0)
sdk - 1 (+0)
Impress Remote - 0 (+0)
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