minutes of ESC call ...
Michael Meeks
michael.meeks at collabora.com
Thu Jan 8 12:37:46 PST 2015
* Present:
+ Norbert, Ptyl, Eike, Kendy, Cloph, Stephan, Caolan, David, Robinson,
Moggi, Miklos, Andras, Michael S, Bjoern, Jacobo, Chris Sherlock
* Completed Action Items:
+ check Matus' startup performance measurement for layered images.zip (Kendy)
AI: [ check the stats vs. master ] (Kendy)
* Pending Action Items:
+ fix BSA login / XML-RPC issues (Cloph)
[ confident we'll have a solution in time for switch-over ]
* Bugzilla migration update (Robinson)
+ looking good, talked with Tollef on the 6th
+ doing more testing this weekend
+ BugZilla migration on track for => Saturday, January 24, ~1600 UTC
* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
+ 4.4.0 RC2
+ tagged today and the libreoffice-4-4-0 branch created
+ builds for all platforms triggered
+ announce to early testing late tonight / tomorrow
+ includes new templates - result of the competition
+ thanks to Kendy/David for making that happen.
+ thanks too to template submitters:
+ Alexander Wilms
+ Edmund Laugasson
+ Jun NOGATA
+ Michael Kovarik
+ Péter Szathmáry
+ Zirk
+ no further late features expected
+ libreoffice-4-4 - one extra review for bug fixes
+ libreoffice-4-4-0 - triple review required ie. pick from -4-4 +2 reviews
+ 4.3.6 RC1
+ due this Monday - January 12th
+ Android / iOS Remote
+ patches in gerrit to add support for new UI (android wearable)
+ iOS - update translations, was it pushed ?
+ Pebble watch port added by Gülşah
+ thanks to Norbert for merging repositories
+ 4.2
+ is a review still necessary ?
+ some people still push to 4.2
- some Linux Distros are still on it.
+ do we still want to review that ? or let anyone do it ?
+ not concern wrt. Eike / Markus (Michael)
=> still do reviews.
* Crashtest update (Markus)
+ mailed the new asan results out
+ some fun in there with binary filters.
+ Caolan fixed a number of things
+ crash-testing didn't change much over Xmas - since few large changes.
+ has new hardware got provisioned yet ?
+ problems with complex disks setup
+ all disks go in some big raid or somesuch.
-> helps other machines as backup.
+ concerns over writing GB's of basically junk data to a cluster
+ new host will be a backup space as well as a testing machine.
+ more disks for high-availability than the crash-test VM
+ down to the targetted bit more than 1x day for the run.
+ now at nearly 80k files.
+ how big is the win below 1x day ?
+ not so many crasher related crashes.
+ want to dedicate more cores for performance regressions
+ want to run again with memory sanitizer
+ only a handful of crashers left in the list (Caolan)
+ most remaining import crashers are just paranoid / misleading asserts.
+ still some left on export crashers (Markus)
+ may want to run some image formats at some point (Markus)
+ opportunities with fonts too (Michael)
* Easy Hack extension (Bjoern)
+ looked at last year's easy-hacks stats
+ 100x easy-hacks created in 2014 - 40x resolved.
+ total # open easy-hacks is much reduced.
+ with GSOC coming up it is important to have them.
+ Design easy-hacks (Kendy)
+ add a new TopicUI or TopicDesign (Bjoern)
+ when you see something silly in the code (has that ever happened?) (Michael)
+ restrain yourself & instead file a bug, set whiteboard to:
"EasyHack DifficultyBeginner SkillCpp TopicCleanup"
+ and move on.
+ please people file at least one.
+ some new C++11 features which may help
+ could we make Coverity reports easy hacks ?
+ concern wrt. keeping # down - takes a while to fix them (Michael)
+ concern to get Easy Hackers -> move to harder stuff
+ how can we get people into bigger / bug-fixing ? (Michael)
+ problem: experienced people taking things that should go
to new contributors (Moggi)
+ somewhat anti-social / wasting an entry point.
+ please point this out if we see it happening & encourage -> harder bugs.
+ 40% opened & closed in 2014
+ down-side, lots of others are ancient.
+ should we just close those ?
AI: + look at closing un-touched easy-hacks next time.
* FOSDEM bits (Kendy)
+ Bruessels, Belgium -- February 2015
+ Cor doing T-shirts (hopefully)
+ 20+ talks submitted / update - lots of good content.
+ kendy presenting the LibreOffice design team in open-source design dev-roomn
+ Book a room at 'Hotel Astrid' to be near the team: cheap as well ...
* Win64 work (DavidO)
+ https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/msvc-x86_64
+ UNO bridge fixed (thanks to Mark Williams)
+ http://imgur.com/1Z27hMq
+ Patch review appreciated:
+ https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/q/status:open+project:core+branch:master+topic:msvc_win32_x86-64,n,z
+ calc starts to hit memory limits with large sheets so - appreciated (Michael)
* Crashreporter (Kendy)
+ the unused crashrep gone - thanks Caolán!
+ horrible, un-maintained, bespoke solution
+ no server side etc.
+ still it is useful to have a tool that collects the crashes + has a dashboard (?)
+ are there existing cross-platform free s/w tools that do that?
+ ABRT [https://github.com/abrt/abrt/wiki/ABRT-Project] - Linux only
+ http://code.google.com/p/google-breakpad/
+ Mozilla (https://wiki.mozilla.org/Socorro) uses that:
+ Breakpad for the client side
+ Socorro for the server side
+ https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/7b04fc8d-9bed-406d-b2b9-c508a2150103
+ breakpad (Markus)
+ looked into it - stack un-winding on the server side
+ really cross-platform, eg. Android-Fennec supported (Kendy)
+ launchpad there but - linux-only (Bjoern)
+ conensus on breakpad
+ needs quite some engineering work however.
* Hackfests (Bjoern)
+ initial scheduling for 2015:
+ Las Palmas de Gran Canaria, Spain
+ happy to have us back
+ suggested March 19th, 20th: Thur / Fri.
+ happens during GSOC application phase.
+ Cambridge, UK - May 2015 contact: Michael
* GSoC (Kendy)
+ February, 9th: Mentoring organizations can begin submitting applications to Google.
+ who will take care of GSoC this year ?
AI: + ask Fridrich, Cedric and head-hunt (Kendy)
* UX Update (Kendy)
+ decided on the new templates
+ chosen nine templates of many
+ lots (sadly) had English text
+ problematic for localisation
+ 4x very nice Impress templates
+ how to handle ux-advise in bugzilla
+ improved the workflow there to encourage the
design people to reply directly etc.
+ will post minutes shortly.
+ lots of other nice improvements:
+ hi-dpi improvements by Tomaž
+ many cleanups by various people (Adolfo, Caolán, Jay, Stuart)
+ side-bar for change-tracking
* Certification (Stephan/Bjoern/Kendy)
+ quiet week.
* Jenkins update (Norbert)
+ working on making Windows more resilient to stop it hanging
+ trying to get some Linux VMs up to have 3x platforms
* gerrit daily digest AWOL (Bjoern)
+ seems to have been fixed : thanks.
* Etherpad for annual report (Bjoern)
+ you too can add something here:
http://pad.documentfoundation.org/p/annualreport
* Commit access
+ Gülşah - pebble watch remote
* Kohei
+ moving on from full-time work on LibreOffice.
+ vote of thanks
+ for all the great work on the spreadsheet over the years
+ hopefully have time to volunteer too.
* Regressions - the story (Chris S)
+ quite a few regression bugs around EMF
+ some work in a branch eg. private/tbsdy/emf
+ a unit test suite in cppcanvas (Miklos)
+ only a single test but ...
+ worked with thorsten on that
+ who is eager to switch cppcanvas -> DrawingLayer
+ problems with InkML / bezier curves
* QA (Robinson)
+ UNCONFIRMED under 400 - a 100x reduction since last time
+ Increasing # of bugs bisected
+ concern wrt. no cross-platform solution for AV (Michael)
+ blame the Mpeg-LA.
+ https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Media_Support/Summary#Audio_Formats
* Regression redux (Michael)
+ great work on base - thanks to Lionel, Julien Nabet, Noel Grandin
+ needAdvice: Bug 55364 - Bundled Extensions create huge amount of files in appdata (slows roaming profiles)
+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=55364
+ Please add yourself to FindTheExpert: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Find_the_expert
+ QA Team preparing for support during bugzilla migration
+ do we need to announce the migration ? (Bjoern)
+ Announced on TDF/LibreOffice lists; some individuals will get notified anyway (Robinson)
+ general public would like to know etc (Bjorn)
+ posted on Twitter / Reddit and other places (Robinson)
* QA stats:
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
+137 -142 (-5 overall)
many thanks to the top bug squashers:
QA Administrators 55
Adolfo Jayme 10
Jay Philips 6
Julien Nabet 6
Matthew Francis 6
Alex Thurgood 5
V Stuart Foote 4
Joel Madero 4
Beluga 3
Markus Mohrhard 3
* Open 4.5 MAB
+ 0/1 0/1
+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=86696&hide_resolved=1
* Open 4.4 MAB
+ 6/26 6/24 7/24 7/22 5/19 4/18 3/17 3/16 3/16 4/16 5/15 4/14 3/12
23% 25% 29% 31% 26% 22% 17%
+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=79641&hide_resolved=1
* Open 4.3 MAB
+ 86/151 86/148 84/146 58/117 33/90 19/73 17/65 16/64 16/64 15/63 16/63 16/60
56% 58% 57% 49% 36% 26% 26% 25% 18% 23% 25% 26%
+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=75025&hide_resolved=1
* Bibisected bugs open: whiteboard 'bibisected'
+ 214/564 208/532 208/526 182/488 190/481 189/475 190/470 173/446 170/441
+ http://bit.ly/VQfF3Q
* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
+ 430(-20) bugs open of 3307(+50) total
* ~Component count net *
Writer - 139 (+3)
Spreadsheet - 82 (-10) [!]
Presentation - 29 (+0)
Crashes - 25 (-1)
Libreoffice - 24 (-1)
Database - 22 (-7) [!]
UI - 22 (+0)
Drawing - 20 (+0)
Graphics - 21 (+1)
Borders - 17 (-2)
Filters - 12 (+0)
Chart - 11 (-3) [!]
Print / PDF - 11 (+0)
BASIC - 4 (-1)
Installation - 3 (+0)
Extensions - 3 (+0)
Formula - 2 (+0)
sdk - 1 (+0)
framework - 1 (+0)
Linguistic - 1 (+0)
Impress Remote - 0 (+0)
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