Minutes of the Design Hangout: 2015-07-22

[Jan Holesovsky]

* [Meeting on 2015-07-15 was skipped]

* Present: Heiko, Jay, Marek, Kendy
 
* UI changes integrated the last 2 weeks:

    + chart sidebar implementation (Moggi)
    + rework of the access to remote files (GSoC - Szymon)
    + toolbar changes in Draw (Jay)
    + Gtk+ theme improvements (Simon)
    + lighter default color for minor grid lines (Bubli)
    + sub-toolbar controller + associated cleanup and fixes (Maxim)
    + Gtk3 continued (Caolán)
    + Gtk3 hi-dpi (Tomaž)
    + UI changes in the Calc sidebar (Rishabh)
    + status updates for custom shapes buttons (Maxim)
 
* LibreOffice Conference
 
    + September 23-25, 2015, Aarhus, Denmark
    + http://conference.libreoffice.org/2015/call-for-papers/
    + would be great to have you all there :-) - please submit a paper!
        + Heiko sent a proposal "The LibreOffice Human Interface Guidelines"
        + Kendy sent a proposal too
 
* Help updating (Kendy)
 
    + hot topic in the ESC
    + new version of HelpAuthoring*.oxt in the works (Kendy)
        + will try that over the weekend (Jay)
        + how to get it? (Jay)
            + http://dev-www.libreoffice.org/helpauthoring/
            + will ping you & announce the today's version when I test it (Kendy)
            + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Help has the general info (Kendy)
    + only master modified, not 5.0 wrt. the menus (Jay)
    + so all will be happening in the next version (Jay)
 
* Icon Updates / Issues (Jay)
 
    + will modify the status when gone through the emails (Jay)
 
    + Tango (Alex/Adolfo/Jay)
        + Latest status of updates available here (Jay)
          https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OErlXIDDGM7V1mOGW8oSCLuhqw5fulT1XhkTik1u2UY/edit?usp=sharing
 
    + Sifr (Papamatti/Jay)
        + Latest status of updates available here (Jay)
          https://docs.google.com/document/d/15ZpVaTxg7TAFYhOyQUP3mp-cVtKA1vP5uZAT38t-taA/edit?usp=sharing
        + Papamatti has pushed new icons (Jay)
 
    + Breeze (Andreas/Jay)
        + Latest status of updates available here (Jay)
          https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dpMFgmkQy4BsyRIKH97ZLPTU6NdvXIYk3Yossj6sSQM/edit?usp=sharing
        + Andreas has pushed some changes (Jay)
 
    + Extra-Large (32x32) Icons for large resolutions
        + Status - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1mPqD2gGsMkfVCI6ByUd2XYX1NJm26hcGjRVe6gcCSEU/edit?usp=sharing
 
* Templates Competition (Jay)
 
    + Wiki page setup
      https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Whiteboards/Templates_for_LibreOffice_5.0
    + many new templates
    + still possible to get that to 5.0? (Jay)
        + RC4 ~tomorrow (Kendy)
        + needs 3 reviews; suggest to integrate the best ones, and consider the rest for 5.0.1 (Kendy)
        + will ping Kendy tomorrow with the list (Jay)

* LibreOffice 5.0 splash + start center + about box new theme (Kendy)
 
    + 1st round integrated (Kendy)
    + got the About graphics, windows installer & OS X dnd installer
        + forwarded to Cloph for integration (Kendy)
 
* UI Guidelines (Heiko)
 
    + https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hSYOFoG6jnj2G0zWDbUYkrGZoj7YCSI9j3onkTZ65bU/edit
 
    + replace "UX principles" https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Principles by "HIG"
      on http://www.libreoffice.org/community/design"?
        + UX principles good & relevant, but not specific enough (Heiko)
        + suggest to change this link to the HIG instead:
          https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Guidelines
        + conclusion: let's do it, unless there are complains in a reply to these minutes :-)

    + context menus
        + added to the wiki
    + sidebar + dialogs
        + will go to the wiki, BUT the undecided parts will be marked as work in progress
    + sidebar
        + good topic for the conference (Heiko)
        + works on now sidebar for chart with Moggi (Heiko)
            + changes the pattern a bit
            + would be good to unify - needs more people for feedback
 
* Next Friday's design session (Heiko/Jay)
 
    + Friday session this week
        + not happening this week as Heiko's busy; could do on Thursday
            + could do it for 1hr tomorrow (Kendy)
        + 1:00pm CEST / 11:00 UTC
 
    + next topics:
        + CMIS new dialogs - check the status / original design, see how it works
        + Print dialog - Bubli's proposals / asks: "Improving printing UX" thread tdf#91362, tdf#61186
 
    + List of possible future topics
        + https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XiJauFHrSmM5LsaV0AlglhfUh8D1IxAg8qistP0KAQA/edit?usp=sharing
        + Steve wants the sidebar "configuration menu" icon gone: "it's useless confusing, thus user unfriendly,
          creates frustration and clutters the UI."
          https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=91824
 
* Easy hacks for Marek (Jay)
 
    + looking at the Basic IDE (Marek)
    + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/GSoC/GenialIdeas#Bunch_of_Basic_IDE_improvements
      is worth checking for the tasks there (Kendy)