Minutes of ESC call: 2015-11-19
Jan Holesovsky
kendy at collabora.com
Thu Nov 19 12:29:12 PST 2015
* Present:
+ Stephan, Christian, Jan-Marek, Eike, Bubli, Robinson, Kendy, Andras, jan i
Muthu, Michael S, Thorsten
* Completed Action Items:
+ Largo as a hack-fest venue ? chat to Dave (Robinson)
+ Had brief chat; many users available for testing, but few devs.
+ Encouraged investigation of local Universities for new dev blood
+ I'll update ESC later if I hear promising news (Robinson)
* Pending Action Items:
+ please cleanup / merge mentoring page (JanI)
[ https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Mentors
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/FindTheExpert ]
+ done, no feedback so far, removed 2 experts
+ UserAgent - drop bundled-languages (Michael)
+ UserAgent - produce a patch for review (Michael)
+ come up with a proposal for "abandoned" / "insufficient data"
resolution in the bug-flow graph (Robinson)
[ lively discussion, following up, decision by the end of the week ]
+ setup FOSDEM Hackfest wiki page with dates (Bjoern)
[ focusing on Munich / Madrid ]
+ book FOSDEM conf. room for board meeting (Florian/Bjoern?)
[ perhaps after not before to avoid hackfest conflict ]
+ run the sw renaming script just before branch-off (Robinson)
[ will happen after ESC meeting, & when tb's are happy ]
* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
+ 4.4.7 RC2 - due next week
+ patches waiting for 4.4 and 4.4.7, please review until Monday
+ 5.0.4 anticipated the next week too
+ 5.0.4 status
+ OpenGL default / disable for now:
+ https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/19950/
AI + discussed the last ESC, Cloph will integrate it (Cloph)
+ RC1 / freeze next Monday
+ 5.1.0 branch / feature-freeze: this week.
+ Robinson doing branch + tag.
+ after the ESC, awaiting the green tinderboxes
+ Late Features:
+ OpenGL - switch to simpler double-buffering.
+ Slide Transitions: artwork & polish
+ Jay poking designers for new images
+ UserAgent display & tweakage
+ calc s/w interpreter-related patch
+ Android & iOS Remote
+ will create a new Android Viewer later this week.
+ the build was not stable enough, trying again
+ big & nice improvements by Tomaž (Cloph)
* Documentation (Olivier)
+ no news
* UX Update (Kendy)
+ lots of interesting ideas around notebookbar, planned a Friday session about that
* Crashtest update
+ 1 import failures, 0 export failures, unknown coverity issues -> coverity is down
* Hackfests (Bjoern)
+ GNOME hack-fest in Madrid - Dec 2nd -> 4th (Jacobo)
+ sent an invitation to LibreOffice deployments in Spain
+ they may need funding to attend.
+ guy from Valencia confirmed & will come
+ Wiki page: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Hackfest/Madrid2015
+ FOSDEM / Beta Co-working (Bjoern)
+ LiMux hackfest end of November (Jan-Marek)
+ Fri 20th - Sun 22nd November 2015
+ this weekend!
+ cooking for 20 people will be easier than for 40...
+ official page https://wiki.debian.org/BSP/2015/11/Munich
to replace the doodle
+ amazon images / cloud needed? (Cloph)
+ not necessary this time, mostly Debian people this time
+ next venues / suggestions
+ considering another Gran Canaria hack-fest (Thorsten)
+ March next year (?)
* Mentoring Update (JanI)
+ many new contributors seem not to know how to update/amend a patch (Bubli)
AI + improve Wiki, write blogpost, promote git-review etc. (JanI)
+ List of developers who have not contributed a while
AI + discussing whether / how to contact them (JanI)
+ update monthly
+ to see if we can do something for them
+ Gerrit oauth
+ current authentication a hassle (JanI)
+ redmine ticked for that now
+ Gerrit patches, set to abandon?
+ similar to bugs with NEEDINFO (Jan-Marek)
+ worth contacting a reviewer too, to see if the patch is useful or not (Bubli)
+ reply on gerrit goes to all, should do it (Jan-Marek)
+ easy case: patches with -1 where nobody reacts (Eike)
+ for the moment, JanI will contact the gerrit admins to abandon,
does not have the rights yet (JanI)
* l10n Update (Sophie)
+ updated templates with typo fixes (Cloph)
+ nothing special happening (Andras)
* external libraries: mDNSResponder? (Michael S.)
+ checked in to random locations
+ not clear when we include something external
+ potential issue with updates
+ sd/source/ui/remotecontrol/mDNSResponder/
+ http://www.opensource.apple.com/tarballs/mDNSResponder/
+ off by default (Miklos)
AI + will check & try to move to external/ (Michael S.)
+ onlineupdate/source/libmar/src/ vs. onlineupdate/source/update/src/
+ https://dxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/modules/libmar/src
+ IIRC is a fork (Kendy)
AI + will double-check, remove the duplicate, etc. (Kendy)
+ when there is an up-stream, we should use that (Jan-Marek)
+ makes even the upgrading harder (Michael S.)
+ various easy hackers cleaning that... (Miklos)
* Developer Certification (Stephan/Bjoern/Kendy/Thorsten)
+ pending another 4 weeks, will start a new round soon...
* Jenkins / CI update (Norbert)
+ [Norbert is traveling]
+ how are the stats for Jenkins generated? (Jan-Marek)
+ just Norbert knows, his playground (Miklos)
+ would be good to get Norberts brain-dump (Thorsten)
AI + ask Norbert at the next ESC (Thorsten)
* Easy Hacks:
+ new easy-hacks thanks to: Michael M., Samuel
+ http://bit.ly/1KR4HWX
+ create your own by setting whiteboard to eg.
"easyHack difficultyBeginner skillCpp topicCleanup"
+ create new easy hacks from these proposed ones
(or remove the whiteboard keyword "needsDevEval" if not feasible):
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/buglist.cgi?status_whiteboard=needsDevEval
* QA update (Robinson)
+ UNCONFIRMED at 475 + 34 bugs in UX-advise
+ Still a good number for UX to help triage
+ needAdvice at 16
+ Most Pressing Bugs:
http://ur1.ca/nkp0t
+ tdf#89034 - Text not being justified in Persian and other RTL languages
+ Very commonly-reported issue
+ anything master / 5.1 related? (Kendy)
+ nothing pressing it seems (Robinson)
* QA stats
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
Querying overall / top bug stats
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
+142 -134 (+8 overall)
many thanks to the top bug squashers:
Beluga 26
Caolán McNamara 11
Timur 8
Adolfo Jayme 8
Maxim Monastirsky 8
Alex Thurgood 7
V Stuart Foote 6
Xisco Faulí 6
raal 5
Miklos Vajna 4
Cor Nouws 4
Julien Nabet 3
Samuel Mehrbrodt 3
Eike Rathke 3
Katarina Behrens (CIB) 2
* Highest-Priority bugs (aka "MABs"):
5.0: 10/49 - 20% -1
4.4: 11/72 - 15% +1
4.3: 6/67 - 8% +0
4.2: 11/133 - 8% +0
4.1: 4/79 - 5% +0
4.0: 11/81 - 13% +0
old: 40/247 - 16% +1
* Bibisected bugs open: whiteboard 'bibisected'
+ 335/1103 336/1098 332/1088 341/1089 330/1074 324/1064 322/1047 324/1039
+ http://tdf.io/bibibugs
* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
+ 713(-5) bugs open of 4419(+34) total 44(-1) high prio.
* ~Component count net * high severity regressions
Calc - 20 (+0)
Writer - 11 (-1)
LibreOffice - 7 (+0)
Impress - 2 (+0)
UI - 1 (+1)
graphics stack - 1 (+0)
Extensions - 1 (+0)
Base - 1 (+0)
+ http://bit.ly/1HWHb3E
* ~Component count net * all regressions
Writer - 236 (-1)
Calc - 155 (-1)
Crashes - 54 (+0)
Impress - 49 (+1)
LibreOffice - 47 (-1)
UI - 44 (+0)
graphics stack - 33 (+0)
Borders - 29 (+0)
Base - 24 (+0)
Draw - 23 (+1)
filters and storage - 15 (+0)
BASIC - 13 (+0)
Printing and PDF export- 11 (+0)
Chart - 10 (+0)
Formula Editor - 5 (+0)
Extensions - 3 (+0)
Installation - 2 (+0)
framework - 2 (+0)
Linguistic - 2 (+0)
sdk - 1 (+0)
+ http://bit.ly/1BUdI8i
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