minutes of ESC call ...

Michael Meeks michael.meeks at collabora.com
Thu Oct 1 08:05:12 PDT 2015


* Present:
    + David, Christian, Sophie, Florian, Robinson, Jan-Marek, Stephan, Michael S,
      Caolan, Michael M, Kendy, Miklos, Eike, Oliver, Bubli, Bjoern, Muthu (late),
      Thorsten (late)
 
* Completed Action Items:
    + write up some blog / blurb on OpenGL rendering (Michael)
        [ ~bit late now ... -> junked, was release-noted ]
    + Approach Mariano Gaudix (Kalahari icon set) creator (Michael)
        http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/++Kalahari+-+LibreOffice+5.0.0?content=157970
        [ Taringa - unusually Spanish  ]
    + look at 'make check' failures on win32 again if interested (Michael S)
        [ fixed several on Windows - but not sure if these were the ones,
          or different; should we turn it on again ?
AI:       try make check again on Windows build-slaves (please) (Norbert) ;-)
          gerrit builds are still failing cli_ure / locking bug (Miklos)
              but un-related to the tests (Michael S)
              climaker / linker / compiler related to .Net (Michael S)
              example: http://ci.libreoffice.org/job/lo_gerrit_master/6876/Gerrit=Gerrit,Platform=Windows/console ]
    + welcome mail for Lukasz Hryniuk (Eike)
        [ done in person at the conference ]
    + review Giuseppe's webdav work in gerrit (Kendy)
        + https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/17189/
        [ just merge it ]
    + merge chaining-text-boxes to master & collectively watch for regressions (Bubli)
    + fix ESC bug scripts for MAB-like bits for each release (Robinson)
        [ committed & ready for new behavior ]
 
* Pending Action Items:
    + have a look at the CppUnit to implement 'expected failure' (Jan-Marek)
        [ conference recovery mode ... ]
    + UserAgent - drop bundled-languages (Michael)
    + UserAgent - produce a patch for review (Michael)
    + ask students to write their own wrap-ups to aggregate (Cedric)
    + write a nice blog entry about 1000's bibisect - including flowers (Robinson)
 
* Kickstart mentoring (Bubli)
    + get things rolling before mentoring lead gets hired
    + a wiki page: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Mentors 
        + desperately outdated
        + add interested mentors there, link with core/easy hacks pages
AI:     + please check if you're listed there (All)
    + perhaps set up a mailing list to connect mentees with mentors
        + can it happen on the dev list instead ? (Michael)
            + need a means to connect mentees with mentors (Bubli)
        + concerned that code contributions are most emphasised there (Bubli)
            + a dedicated list will loose those on the dev list (Miklos)
                + eg. asking around calc - got help on the list
            + mentoring going on on the design channel / no-where else to go (Bubli)
                + design-channel is quite fun / non-boring (Kendy)
            + chap was on the documentation / l10n lists (Sophie)
        + likes idea of mentoring list (Robinson)
        + could use projects@ lists -> a cross-project list (Sophie)
            + projects: stay low-volume to keep it read (Bjoern, Michael, Floeff)
    + some PR for all of the above.
        + prefer to wait until Mentoring hires arrive (Michael)
  
* Release Engineering update (Robinson/Cloph)
    + 4.4.6 RC1 status
        + been tagged, earlier today
        + builds available for early testing tomorrow.
        + all queued patches reviewed & committed.
    + 5.0.3 - RC1 status
        + due next week; currently 9-10 patches waiting
          from today / yesterday; please help review.
    + 5.1.0 Alpha - week after next, code freeze mid. Nov.
    + Android & iOS Remote
        + Google-play dropped the 50Mb limit for APKs.
        + preparing an updated version of the viewer / editor.
        + also will poke an Intel binary.
 
* UX Update (Kendy)
    + Friday session planned to look at navigator.
    + now we have the core table-styles bits
        + another Friday session planned for improving the UI.
    + table-styles
        + style re-applied when you do operations
        + insert row/delete row etc.
        + inspired by the core of the GSOC work.
        + able to handle direct formatting as well.
        + filter bits needed / pending
        + UNO API missing too (Miklos)
        + and improved UI needed.
        + exports as direct-formatting on save.
 
* Documentation (Kendy)
    + Jay has made more improvments to the scripts
    + Regina has fixed bugs in the XSLT filter.
    + new release planned tomorrow.
    + with this -> can set some pages MPLv2 only if from-scratch.
 
* Crashtest update (Caolán)
    + 0 import failures, 4 export failures, 21 coverity
      + no new run this week yet
         + working on one in the next few days.
    + coverity 7.7.0 upgrade failed - coverity server-side, back to 7.6.0 for now
      + 21 outstanding, should all be fixed again
      + mostly around casting work - removing tools rtti -> dynamic_casts
    + xls and T602 file format support added to fftester (fast-path format tester)
      + nothing serious seen.
 
* Hackfests (Bjoern)
    + Aarhus LibreOffice conference bits ?
        + did no hacking (didn't bring laptop) (Bjoern)
        + 3 guys from the local C++ group were there.
            + poking at KDE / VCL code.
        + http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-t7TckSuqRBk/VgULTePmevI/AAAAAAAABeI/JZNpzS_ISnw/s1600/vertical-preview-2.png
            + A low-hanging complaint from the Japanese vertical text thing (Caolan)
    + Hamburg, Germany: Oct 23rd -> 25th (Bubli)
        + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Hackfest/Hamburg2015
            + would be great to see everyone there.
            + Hamburg Hackers, I'm looking at you, please register! ;)
                + couchsurfing etc.
            + working to encourage Aarhus folks to Hamburg; evening before.
    + next venues / suggestions
        + Belgium another candidate ...
        + perhaps again at Las Palmas (Thorsten)
        + winter is tricky:
            + FOSDEM is next ?
AI:         + reach-out to co-working guy to book (Bjoern)
            + early next year after 5.1.x looks better ?
 
* l10n Update (Sophie)
    + nothing new; need to summarize libocon discussions.
 
* Developer Certification (Stephan/Bjoern/Kendy/Thorsten)
    + meet face-to-face at the conference (Kendy)
        + met all the time, but nothing happened (Thorsten)
        + even talked about it (Kendy)
           + came up with 2-3 candidates.
AI: + proposal for next week (Dev. Cert. guys)
 
* Jenkins update (Norbert)
    from:Thu Sep 24 14:06:55 2015
    master linux rel  jobs:188 ok:181 ko:7   fail ratio:3.72%  break:5  broken duration:2.71%
    master linux dbg  jobs:116 ok:105 ko:9   fail ratio:7.75%  break:5  broken duration:5.1%
    master mac rel    jobs:162 ok:157 ko:5   fail ratio:3.08%  break:4  broken duration:1.48%
    master mac dbg    jobs:165 ok:153 ko:12  fail ratio:7.27%  break:8  broken duration:10.36%
    master win rel    jobs:83  ok:70  ko:11  fail ratio:13.25% break:6  broken duration:5.24%
    master win dbg    jobs:121 ok:86  ko:34  fail ratio:28.09% break:17 broken duration:27.19%
    master win64 dbg  jobs:110 ok:86  ko:23  fail ratio:20.9%  break:13 broken duration:20.18%
    lo-4.4 mac        jobs:14  ok:13  ko:1   fail ratio:7.14%  break:1  broken duration:27.5%
    gerrit win rel    jobs:253 ok:121 ko:132 fail ratio:52.17%
    gerrit lin rel    jobs:263 ok:227 ko:36  fail ratio:13.68%
    gerrit mac rel    jobs:260 ok:205 ko:55  fail ratio:21.15%
    gerrit all        jobs:253 ok:103 ko:150 fail ratio:59.28%
       + windows not looking great as normal.
          + be good to separate build failure from infra. failure etc.
       + Norbert looking at more reliable BuildBot / other bits (cf. conf.)
 
* Easy Hacks:
    + new easy-hacks thanks to: (none)
        + http://bit.ly/1KR4HWX
    + create your own by setting whiteboard to eg.
            "easyHack difficultyBeginner skillCpp topicCleanup"
    + Create new easy hacks from these proposed ones 
      (or remove the whiteboard keyword "needsDevEval" if not feasible):
      https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/buglist.cgi?status_whiteboard=needsDevEval
 
* New Commit access:
    + Justin Luth - SIL 
        + http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/log/?qt=author&q=luth
          impressive reviews, unanimous approval.
AI:     + send welcome mail (Miklos)
AI:     + poke gerrit (Michael)
* QA update (Robinson)
    + UNCONFIRMED at 498
    + needAdvice at 15
    + Most Pressing Bugs:
        http://ur1.ca/nkp0t
        + tdf#92478 - Scanning crashes on 64bit Windows 10 build
        + tdf#94225 - Writer crashes on undo
        + tdf#94428 - Printing adds garbage to top edge of page
            + Many reports about this regression
 
* QA stats
  + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
    +157    -68        (+89 overall)
    many thanks to the top bug squashers:
        Cor Nouws              9
        Beluga                 8
        Adolfo Jayme           7
        Miklos Vajna           6
        Julien Nabet           6
        Maxim Monastirsky      5
        V Stuart Foote         5
        Yousuf (Jay) Philips   5
        Caolán McNamara        2
        tommy27                2
        GerardF                2
        Eike Rathke            1
        Markus Mohrhard        1
        Mark Hung              1
        Óvári                  1
 
* Open 5.0 MAB
  + 1/12 1/12 1/12 1/12 1/12 1/12 1/12 1/12 1/12 1/12 1/12 1/12 2/12
  + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=86696&hide_resolved=1
 
* Open 4.4 MAB
  + 10/60 10/60 10/60 10/60 11/60 11/60 11/60 11/60 10/60 10/60 10/60
  + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=79641&hide_resolved=1
 
* Open 4.3 MAB
  + 59/168 59/168 59/168 59/168 59/168 59/168 59/168 61/168 61/168 61/168
  + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=75025&hide_resolved=1
 
* Bibisected bugs open: whiteboard 'bibisected'
  + 324/1039 325/1029 330/1028 344/1028 345/1020 338/1006 328/991 314/964
    + http://tdf.io/bibibugs
 
* all bugs tagged with 'regression'

        + stats are for two weeks ... (including conf + travel)

        + 652(+18) bugs open of 4243(+40) total 38(-1) high prio.
 
        * ~Component   count net * high severity regressions
                  Calc - 16 (-1)
                Writer - 10 (+0)
           LibreOffice -  5 (+0)
               Impress -  4 (+0)
                    UI -  1 (+0)
   filters and storage -  1 (+0)
                  Base -  1 (+0)
                + http://bit.ly/1HWHb3E
 
        * ~Component   count net * all regressions
                Writer - 215 (+1)
                  Calc - 138 (+7)
               Impress - 50 (+2)
               Crashes - 47 (+3)
                    UI - 42 (+1)
           LibreOffice - 41 (+1)
        graphics stack - 26 (+1)
                  Base - 26 (+1)
               Borders - 24 (+0)
                  Draw - 23 (+1)
   filters and storage - 13 (+0)
Printing and PDF export- 12 (+1)
                 Chart - 12 (+0)
                 BASIC -  9 (+0)
        Formula Editor -  5 (+1)
            Linguistic -  3 (-1)
             framework -  3 (-1)
            Extensions -  2 (+0)

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