minutes of ESC call ...
michael.meeks at collabora.com
Thu Oct 22 07:54:58 PDT 2015
+ Miklos, Kendy, Andras, Oliver, Sophie, Eike, Jan-Marek, Christian, David,
Lionel, Stephan, Robinson, Bjoern, Bubli, Caolan.
* Completed Action Items:
+ discard MAB series, started anew for high-prio. (Michael)
+ ask students to write their own wrap-ups to aggregate (Cedric)
+ write a nice blog entry about 1000's bibisect - including flowers (Robinson)
+ setup an IRC topic message for -l10n -> NLP (Cloph)
+ kill gconf integration (Bjoern)
[ Should we kill it completely even proxies / user-name vs. KDE ? (Stephan)
+ settings are outdated anyway (Bjoern)
+ but they worked (Stephan)
+ gconf & KDE backends - for some specific config-items,
getting data through the backends (Stephan)
+ dconf-thing, is different: reading all config items from dconf
similar to Windows Registry reading.
+ but system settings are now in dconf (Michael)
+ could do something similar.
+ LibreOffice: the only app that depends on GConf (Bjoern)
+ only kept around for LibreOffice.
+ perhaps some obsolete proxy settings that Stephan has (Michael) ].
+ killed to avoid testing matrix complexity (Bjoern)
+ gconf unused in KDE / Munich (Jmux) ]
* Pending Action Items:
+ please check if you're listed in the mentoring page (All)
[ still needs some action from Kohei, Cedric, Thorsten etc. ]
+ UserAgent - drop bundled-languages (Michael)
+ UserAgent - produce a patch for review (Michael)
+ reach-out to Beta Co-working guy to book pre-FOSDEM hackfest (Bjoern)
* Release Engineering update (Christian)
+ another RC requested for 4.4.6, RC2 not announced yet.
+ there will be an RC3 - as final next week.
+ create a tag Sunday/Monday - please review things for that.
+ 5.1.0 Alpha 1
+ more or less ready
+ waiting for the -dev branded Mac build variant before announce.
+ will be used for the bug-hunt next weekend.
+ trouble with translation-tools ? (Bjoern)
+ Eike's 1x line fix wrt. ICU/boost/foo (Christian)
+ using the system-tools with a newer ICU, triggers a LibreOffice bug.
+ hopefully fixes this for everyone - thanks Eike.
=> good to have Alpha 1 nice and early (Bjoern)
+ 5.0.3 - RC2 status ?
+ tagged after the ESC call now.
+ OpenGL -> may disable post 5.0.3 / and apply feedback to 5.1 (Michael)
+ perhaps disable by default for 5.0.4 ?
+ Android & iOS Remote
* UX Update (Kendy)
+ please sync. with marketing before big changes get screenshotted (Michael)
+ some confusion on the topic:
+ prototype can be generally useful.
+ doesn't need to be focused one way or the other.
+ Samuel wants a tabbed context
+ Heiko likes a general toolbar-like thing with menu on top.
+ easy to have both, configurable etc.
+ Table Styles
+ more discussion on the call.
+ Heiko & Jay talking it over.
* Documentation (Kendy)
+ no new release of HelpAuthoring.oxt yet; new patches for XML help to merge.
* Crashtest update (Caolán)
+ 0 import failures, 0 export failures, 405 coverity issues
+ most of new coverity issues are random Java stuff.
+ asan+ubsan crashtest run underway
+ will take another few days to complete.
- plenty of fun stuff already.
+ keyboard event fuzzing had a few successes
+ produced some real-world crashers
+ graduated from a toy to something useful.
+ do we get a test-file for the future ? (Michael)
+ yes, logged with the test-file etc. (Caolan)
+ expected to heavily bit-rot over time.
* Hackfests (Bjoern)
+ Hamburg, Germany: Oct 23rd -> 25th (Bubli)
+ Friday will celebrate the 5th birthday again with
misc. parties / politicians joining in the fun.
+ wiki page - please do register there and file what
your topic is.
+ Could we join the GNOME hack-fest in Madrid ? (Bjoern)
+ just a few hackers would be fine for cross-polination
+ no wiki page yet
+ Dec 2nd -> 4th planned.
+ potential mentors (other than Bjoern) speak up
+ if interested, contact him.
+ why do we need a mentor ? (Bubli)
+ to help new people with builds / code ptrs etc.
+ FOSDEM / Beta Co-working (Bjoern)
+ could we book a separate room for us ? (Bubli)
+ afterwards - could invite people to join in ? (Bjoern)
+ perhaps try it beforehand this time.
+ next venues / suggestions
+ Belgium another candidate ...
+ perhaps again at Las Palmas (Thorsten)
* l10n Update (Sophie)
+ no news, all going well.
+ question - about removing paragraph IDs from XML-help files (Kendy)
+ Olivier - says they are used somehow during translations.
+ how are they used ? would like to remove if possible.
+ suspect extraction depends on them (Andras)
+ must be unique in XHP file in order to dis-ambiguate
identical English paragraphs (Christian)
+ in the source-code, same problem - but not an issue (Kendy)
+ can we make it non-mandatory and only for the
strings that need this - to make XML human-readable.
+ can use shorter IDs - no problem (Andras)
+ just tweak the l10ntools as well (Miklos)
=> attempt to fix it.
* Developer Certification (Stephan/Bjoern/Kendy/Thorsten)
+ pending 8 weeks ...
* Jenkins update (Norbert)
+ attempted fix of CLR locking issue (Michael)
+ copied key files temporarily before using them.
+ 2x builds in a row succesfully (Miklos)
+ perhaps it helped.
* Easy Hacks:
+ new easy-hacks thanks to:
+ Björn Michaelsen, Markus Mohrhard, Dennis Roczek
+ create your own by setting whiteboard to eg.
"easyHack difficultyBeginner skillCpp topicCleanup"
+ create new easy hacks from these proposed ones
(or remove the whiteboard keyword "needsDevEval" if not feasible):
* Icon-sets (Bjoern)
+ how can we encourage people to start from scratch & get clean licensing ?
+ usually they start for some desktop env. (Kendy)
+ cf. Breeze started as KDE, etc.
=> policy - to keep Galaxy clean (Bjoern)
* QA update (Robinson)
+ UNCONFIRMED at 483
+ needAdvice at 15
+ Most Pressing Bugs:
+ tdf#76964 - Automatic capitalization of "i" in a non-english language
+ very problematic for Polish
+ i apologize about the 68 comments
+ tdf#94063 - EDITING References break when putting text behind them
+ tdf#91789 - UI: Crash on exit after format header
+ tdf#94689 - Crash on new file, close file, open file
+ Michael: work in progress?
+ tdf#94225 - Writer crashes on undo
+ long-standing, from before LibreOffice.
* QA stats
+184 -257 (-73 overall)
many thanks to the top bug squashers:
QA Administrators 93
Dennis Roczek 25
Maxim Monastirsky 12
Joel Madero 12
Julien Nabet 11
Michael Meeks 8
V Stuart Foote 6
Lionel Elie Mamane 5
Yousuf (Jay) Philips 4
Cor Nouws 4
Alex Thurgood 4
Eike Rathke 3
* Highest-Priority bugs (aka "MABs"):
5.0: 11/47 - 20%
4.4: 10/70 - 14%
4.3: 6/67 - 8%
4.2: 12/132 - 9%
4.1: 4/79 - 5%
4.0: 11/81 - 13%
old: 39/246 - 16%
* Bibisected bugs open: whiteboard 'bibisected'
+ 330/1074 324/1064 322/1047 324/1039 325/1029 330/1028 344/1028
* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
+ stats are for two weeks ...
+ 686(+3) bugs open of 4339(+12) total 45(-3) high prio.
* ~Component count net * high severity regressions
Calc - 19 (+0)
Writer - 14 (-2)
LibreOffice - 7 (+0)
Impress - 2 (-1)
UI - 1 (+0)
filters and storage - 1 (+0)
Base - 1 (+0)
* ~Component count net * all regressions
Writer - 232 (-1)
Calc - 144 (+1)
Impress - 51 (+2)
Crashes - 51 (-1)
UI - 45 (+0)
LibreOffice - 45 (+0)
Borders - 28 (+1)
graphics stack - 27 (+1)
Base - 24 (-2)
Draw - 21 (+0)
filters and storage - 16 (+1)
Chart - 11 (-1)
Printing and PDF export- 11 (+0)
BASIC - 10 (+0)
Formula Editor - 5 (+0)
Linguistic - 3 (+0)
Extensions - 2 (+0)
framework - 2 (-1)
sdk - 1 (+1)
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