[libreoffice-design] Minutes of the Design Hangout: 2016-04-01

Wols Lists antlists at youngman.org.uk
Mon Apr 11 15:00:46 UTC 2016

On 11/04/16 10:24, Yousuf 'Jay' Philips wrote:
> On 04/05/2016 05:38 PM, Wols Lists wrote:
>> Just seen this - one little comment ...
>> "Prefer graphical widgets in favor of controls that require the input of
>> an exact value (e.g. an image’s transparency with discrete steps via
>> sliders)."
>> I'm not sure how appropriate it is in these circumstances, but one of
>> the things that drives me up the wall with guis is how you're forced to
>> use sliders/mice so much. A graphical widget should have a button that
>> converts it into an input window - eg I sometimes want to enter colours
>> as pantones.
>> Most people are visual. Most people prefer sliders. Just remember that
>> some of us don't ... :-) That's why I'm a WordPerfect fan - it's so easy
>> to use an input dialog that plonks things *exactly* where you want them
>> rather than dragging and hoping you've dropped it in the right place :-)
> Though we will be introducing more graphical widgets, they will be
> accompanied by regular input fields that users can view/input the exact
> value. E.g. the transparency slider and spinbox field in the area
> content panel.
That's great. It's just that sometimes us text people get forgotten :-(

It would be nice if it's explicitly stated in the guidelines that the
presence of such text-box entry fields should be a MANDATORY option
(where they make sense, of course). It's fine for them to be tucked
away, but they need to be there.

(And I'm minded of a story about MS-Access. Because everything was
visual, this guy thought "hey, you can't visualise this relational
concept. Can you do it in Access? Probably not!" and he was right.
Probably Joe Celko.)


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