Minutes of ESC call [2016-02-04]
Jan Holesovsky
kendy at collabora.com
Thu Feb 4 19:59:16 UTC 2016
* Present:
+ Jan-Marek, Kendy, Norbert, Sophie, Christian, Robinson, Bjoern, Eike, Miklos, Andras,
JanI, Caolán, Muthu, Michael S, Olivier
* Finished Action Items:
+ mail to ask new certificees for approval (Stephan)
+ add gerrit stats & old/stale commit links to ESC agenda (JanI)
* Pending Action Items:
+ chase impress mode-switching patch - make the button more prominent (Cloph)
[ did not get to that yet, will mention in release notes ]
+ Update/fix: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/GSoC/Ideas (All)
+ double-check duplicate libmar/src, update/src (Kendy)
+ add more repos from gerrit/github to gitdm-config scripts (e.g. for Document Liberation repos) (Thorsten)
[ there was a mail from Thorsten, probably done ]
+ add stuff to Release Notes and Under The Hood (everyone)
* Release Engineering update (Christian)
+ 5.0.5 RC2 update
+ will be done after the call; couldn't do earlier due to traveling
+ 5.0.6 will be the last 5.0 release - RC1 due ?
+ this will be the last one
+ April 12th rc1
+ 5.1.0 release update
+ to be announced the next week
+ 5.1.1 RC1 due ?
+ next week, February 9th
+ Late Features:
+ New Slide Transitions: polish
+ UserAgent display & tweakage
+ URL for the online documentation needs change (Bjoern)
+ impress mode switching (Kendy)
+ Android & iOS Remote
+ build breakage updated; Android builds ready
+ up-loaded soon.
+ iOS remote needs re-releasing with new certificate
+ due later this week.
+ probably new Android release soon due to the nice new storage support
+ Release Notes: are they complete:
+ https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/5.1
=> please do fill that out ... check commit logs.
+ https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/UnderTheHood/5.1
+ help also appreciated.
* Documentation (Olivier)
+ new helppages
+ wrote some notes on the project - local help related
+ would like to have the dedicated app exchanged with opening in
the browser (even the local help)
+ would be good to add videos etc.
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Help_Content_Modernization
+ needs some JS hacking (Kendy)
+ would like to do that as GSoC (Olivier)
AI + add it to the ideas page (Kendy)
+ willing to co-mentor, if you find a good student (Kendy)
+ how do you want to bundle the videos? (Jan-Marek)
+ we can discuss the size of the package (Olivier)
+ heaviest can be online, small on locally; currently
only a brain-storm (Olivier)
+ I just don't want to rely completely on online help (Jan-Marek)
+ blocking on the JS / indexing application, content can
be decided later (Kendy)
+ large overlap with the wikihelp project (Miklos). May replace wikihelp completely (olivier)
* GSoC 2016 (Thorsten, JanI)
+ Urgent: please update & fix before Feb 8th:
+ https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/GSoC/Ideas
+ 3 admin volunteers: JanIV, Moggi, Thorsten
+ application to be submitted in up to a week (JanI)
* UX Update (Kendy)
+ GSoC tasks - for the things that we designed in the last year
+ will have a survey about Draw
+ ~5 UI changes from non-committers pending, UX team should review (JanI)
+ ATM assigned to Kendy
* Reviewing larger mail merge patchsets (Jan-Marek)
+ two branches with larger mail merge changes
+ private/jmux/mm-cleanup (~25 patches)
- mainly refactors MM itself
+ feature/mailmerge-toolbar from Kendy (~30 patches)
- minimal changes to the mail merge code, but new UI
+ How are these normally merged?
+ Somebody wants / can do a review?
+ normally rebase + push to master (Kendy)
+ no need for an additional review (Miklos)
+ make sure though that the 'make check' with dbgutil enabled passes
+ test branch with: ./logerrit testfeature <branch> (Bjoern)
* Crashtest update (Caolan)
+ 0 import failures, 1 export failures, 100 (+4/-30) coverity
+ how much coverity is Java? (Bjoern)
+ 99 (Caolan)
* Japanese event summary (?)
+ 9th January in Osaka https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Events/LibOCon_mini_JP
+ 10th January, hackfest http://libojapan.connpass.com/event/24081/
+ Kohei's blog / slides
http://kohei.us/2016/01/26/libreoffice-mini-conference-2016-in-osaka/
* FOSDEM Hackfest / Event update
+ https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Hackfest/FOSDEM2016
+ hackfest was great, mentored a new contributor (Miklos)
+ FOSDEM itself - booth much better located this year, many visitors (Miklos)
+ devroom great too (Miklos)
+ lots of non-LibreOffice people there too (Kendy)
+ 2015 videos: https://video.fosdem.org/2015/devroom-open_document_editors/
+ audio low for some (Bjoern)
+ 2016 videos: https://video.fosdem.org/2016/k4401/
+ no content yet though, fear that some of the talks were not recorded (Bjoern)
+ we need to check the stream the next time (Bjoern)
+ some general loss of data from all rooms too, unfortunately (Cloph)
* Hackfests (Bjoern)
+ next venues / suggestions
+ Gran Canaria hack-fest (Thorsten)
+ April 6-8th (7-9th) possibly
Plan is to craft it according to the Japanese Mini-Conference, with a broader local community appeal
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Events/LibreOffice_Espania_Summit
+ Turkey
+ talked to them; lots of enthusiasm & desire for training.
+ mid-March hack-fest expected.
+ concrete dates ?
+ concrete volunteer mentors?
+ Jan-Marek maybe
+ Germany, Munich, LiMux; End of May 2016 (Jan-Marek)
+ Orga: https://wiki.debian.org/BSP/2016/05/de/Munich
+ Weekend doodle: https://dudle.inf.tu-dresden.de/LiMux_Hackfest_May_2016/
+ 19-21 or 27-29
+ smaller amount of space available this year (Jan-Marek)
+ maybe some general community event around that? (Bjoern)
+ it is a general event, not LO specific (Jan-Marek)
+ Italy?
* Mentoring Update (JanI)
+ GSoC candidates seems to need more help than ever
+ unofficial camp in turkey, blog post maae, added many patches, but still
require mentoring bandwidth
+ hackfest will hopefully help (Bjoern)
+ working with infra
+ knowledge transfer from Cloph - to back him up when he goes for vacation (JanI)
+ Reduced more coverity issues
+ ~90% false positives these days (JanI)
+ Preparing a bigger rewrite of developer wiki, to answer typical beginner
questions and still having "advanced" themes
+ should sent to the mailing list? (JanI)
+ go for that (Bjoern, Kendy)
+ Gerrit patches: 75 open from non-committers all commented. 147 open in total.
+ dramatic raise in non-committers, sadly 2/3 has a -1 currently
* l10n Update (Sophie)
+ nothing new, all ready for 5.1, no disasters
* Commit Access
* Developer Certification (Stephan/Bjoern/Kendy/Thorsten)
+ pending next cycle.
* Jenkins / CI update (Norbert)
from:Thu Jan 28 15:02:08 2016
master linux rel jobs:200 ok:192 ko:8 fail ratio:3.99% break:6 broken duration:3.63%
master linux dbg jobs:137 ok:61 ko:76 fail ratio:55.47% break:2 broken duration:48%
master mac rel jobs:188 ok:178 ko:10 fail ratio:5.31% break:3 broken duration:5.6%
master mac dbg jobs:194 ok:183 ko:11 fail ratio:5.67% break:4 broken duration:5.57%
master win rel jobs:131 ok:121 ko:10 fail ratio:7.63% break:5 broken duration:7.72%
master win dbg jobs:139 ok:124 ko:15 fail ratio:10.79% break:7 broken duration:7.75%
master win64 dbg jobs:134 ok:120 ko:14 fail ratio:10.44% break:9 broken duration:7.08%
lo-5.0 mac jobs:8 ok:8 ko:0 fail ratio:0% break:0 broken duration:0%
gerrit win rel jobs:374 ok:297 ko:74 fail ratio:19.78%
gerrit lin rel jobs:378 ok:319 ko:55 fail ratio:14.55%
gerrit mac rel jobs:379 ok:251 ko:128 fail ratio:33.77%
gerrit all jobs:374 ok:211 ko:155 fail ratio:41.44%
+ regular week, Linux needed make clean
* Easy Hacks:
+ new easy-hacks thanks to:
+ Samuel Mehrbrodt, Björn Michaelsen x 2,
Michael Meeks x 2, Stephan Bergmann
+ http://bit.ly/1mpGhJx
+ create your own by updating Keywords to eg.
"easyHack, difficultyBeginner, skillCpp, topicCleanup"
+ create new easy hacks from these proposed ones
(or remove the Keyword "needsDevEval" if not feasible):
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=needsDevEval
* Easy installation of LibreOffice in Wine (Bjoern)
+ now available with 1 click
+ install Play-on-Linux, and you get it (Jan-Marek)
+ https://www.playonlinux.com/ and https://www.playonlinux.com/en/app-2726-LibreOffice_5.html
+ winedbg possible? (Jan-Marek)
+ it used to work for me few years back, but recommend MSVC debugger for
a real Windows debugging (Kendy)
* QA update (Robinson)
+ UNCONFIRMED: 647
+ enhancements: 62
+ in ux-advise: 33
+ needAdvice at 22
+ Most Pressing Bugs:
http://ur1.ca/nkp0t
+ tdf#97437 - PIVOTTABLE CRASH after creating the pivot table
+ Patch in place
+ tdf#97033 - EDITING - Malformed ODB file crashes when editing tables, queries, forms in master dbgutil
+ regression
+ tdf#95709 - [DISPLAY] Presentation mode renders graphics wrong
+ Armin ?
+ tdf#96172 - Crash in layout SwSectionFrame after opening particular document
+ [was: Crash on opening DOCX]
+ bibisected;
+ tdf#89034 - OS X: Text not being justified in Persian and other RTL languages
+ Common issue -> lots of duplicates
+ Mail merge regressions (Bjoern)
+ http://bit.ly/1POJrmp (7 open; 7 open last meeting)
+ (Still?) PENDING: AI: push the last MM fix to 5.0 too
+ Jan-Marek watching this, but short on time currently
+ maybe to do test build, and find interest in testing? (Bjoern)
+ no infra for that though (Bjoern)
+ pushing to master is fine (Kendy)
+ tdf#96847 - Android viewer crashes on every file (android 4.4.4 & 5.x?)
+ Crash.
* QA stats
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
+130 -111 (+19 overall)
many thanks to the top bug squashers:
raal 11
Maxim Monastirsky 8
Beluga 8
Samuel Mehrbrodt 7
Caolán McNamara 7
Xisco Faulí 6
Cor Nouws 5
Adolfo Jayme 4
V Stuart Foote 4
Tor Lillqvist 4
Miklos Vajna 3
Michael Stahl 3
Michael Meeks 3
Kevin Suo 2
* Highest-Priority bugs (aka "MABs"):
5.2: 2/4 - 50% +1
5.1: 2/24 - 8% +0
5.0: 9/52 - 17% -1
4.4: 13/75 - 17% +0
4.3: 6/68 - 8% +0
4.2: 11/134 - 8% +0
4.1: 4/79 - 6% -1
4.0: 10/81 - 12% +0
old: 39/248 - 15% +1
* Bibisected bugs open: whiteboard 'bibisected'
+ 402/1247 408/1242 409/1238 406/1229 353/1140 344/1125 343/1116
+ http://tdf.io/bibibugs
* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
+ 760(-3) bugs open of 4639(+19) total 41(+1) high prio.
* ~Component count net * high severity regressions
Calc - 18 (+1)
Writer - 12 (+0)
LibreOffice - 5 (+0)
Base - 2 (+0)
Impress - 2 (+0)
Extensions - 1 (+0)
Draw - 1 (+0)
+ http://bit.ly/1HWHb3E
* ~Component count net * all regressions
Writer - 238 (-3)
Calc - 163 (-1)
Crashes - 61 (+1)
LibreOffice - 55 (+1)
Impress - 51 (+0)
UI - 45 (+0)
Borders - 33 (+1)
graphics stack - 31 (+0)
Base - 27 (-1)
Draw - 27 (-2)
filters and storage - 19 (-1)
BASIC - 15 (+0)
Chart - 14 (+0)
Printing and PDF export- 12 (+1)
Formula Editor - 7 (+0)
Linguistic - 5 (+0)
Extensions - 3 (+0)
Installation - 2 (+0)
sdk - 1 (+0)
framework - 1 (+0)
+ http://bit.ly/1BUdI8i
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