minutes of ESC call ...
Michael Meeks
michael.meeks at collabora.com
Thu Jan 7 08:11:29 PST 2016
* Present:
+ Christian, Lionel, Eike, Jan-Marek, Sophie, Stephan, Muthu, Norbert,
Michael M, JanI, Kendy, Miklos, Jacobo, Michael S, Robinson, Thorsten, Andras
* Completed Actions / Items:
+ file easy-hack to fix the UI issues with code ptrs (Thorsten)
[ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=96563
NPAPI died meanwhile. ]
+ send Ashod commit-access / introduction mail (Michael)
+ check esc-bug-stats.pl wrt. bibisect (Robinson)
[ checking to push ]
+ book FOSDEM conf. room for board meeting (Florian)
[ apparently done (Thorsten) one large room (15-20 people) for two days, feb 1 10-18 feb 2 10-14 ]
* Pending Action Items:
+ double-check libmar/src, update/src, remove the duplicate, etc. (Kendy)
[ an exec. linking both gtk2 and gtk3 - fixed that (Michael S)
duplicate files still there ]
+ UserAgent - move to 1% of users, drop bundled-languages etc. (Michael)
+ try out 'make check' for gerrit / Linux builders (Norbert)
[ to make it simpler; why not make the Linux debug and not have the release.
gives us more coverage (Miklos)
much simpler to do (Norbert) ]
+ get callgrind trace of SVG rendering in tdf#82214 (JMux)
[ need to up-load it ].
* Release Engineering update (Christian)
+ 5.0.5
+ RC1 due week after next
+ 5.1.0 RC2
+ deadline early next week for 5.1.0 RC2 & branch & hard-code-freeze.
+ Late Features:
+ new WEEKNUM_OOO spreadsheet function to solve tdf#96198
[ added already, to be back-compatible with the old weeknum
functions, so old docs continue to work. Added it & the
name to the resource, but no Fn. Wizard visibility -
to prevent usage in new documents (Eike)
+ Compat always good (JMux) ]
+ OpenGL
[ done - still minor bug fixing around.
Intel HD 3000 - still can't reproduce problems.
Enabled by default again ? (Jmux)
+ yes, on Windows. Linux looking good. ]
+ Slide Transitions: polish
[ screenshots needed -> release notes,
more improvements on the way ].
+ UserAgent display & tweakage
[ still needs random 1% bits doing ]
+ Android & iOS Remote
+ Cairo dependency fix pushed.
+ need to trigger a new rlease.
+ iOS remote needs re-releasing with new certificate.
+ Release Notes: are they complete:
+ https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/5.1
=> please do fill that out ... check commit logs.
+ https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/UnderTheHood/5.1
+ help also appreciated.
* Documentation (Kendy)
+ over Christmas, Jean updated the introduction to base.
+ Hazel Russman improved several getting started chapters.
* UX Update (Kendy)
+ also having a break.
* Crashtest update (Caolan
+ ? import failures, ? export failures, ??? coverity
* Hackfests (Bjoern)
+ FOSDEM / Beta Co-working (Bjoern)
+ https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Hackfest/FOSDEM2016
+ Many speakers have been notified for FOSDEM dev-room.
=> would want a developer on the committe next year (Michael, Thorsten)
+ next venues / suggestions
+ Turkey
+ talked to them; lots of enthusiasm & desire for training.
+ mid-March expected.
+ considering another Gran Canaria hack-fest (Thorsten)
+ March next year (?)
Please remember the easter holidays are in march this year, and big in spain
+ Japanese event (?)
+ 9th January in Osaka https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Events/LibOCon_mini_JP
+ 10th January, hackfest http://libojapan.connpass.com/event/24081/
* Mentoring Update (JanI)
+ working with 5x new-comers
+ 4 active, 3 on IRC.
+ could use help with tdb - and how to set breakpoints.
+ average patch review length: 3 weeks in gerrit - too long.
+ proposal for lowering the gerrit patch queue (update of last discussion):
A) patches older than 1 month
A-1) Committers
Add a polite ping message, asking if the patch is still work in progress.
if pinged a month ago and no reaction, abandon patch.
A-2) Non committers
If no gerrit -1 or comment and code looks good, review cleanup and merge code.
if gerrit -1, add a polite ping message, asking if the patch is still work in progress
if pinged a month ago and no reaction, abandon patch
B) new patches from non-committers
Check code, and add a comment about the status
After 3 days, review cleanup and merge code if no comments in gerrit
=> quicker is better (Michael)
+ this is what we're looking for (Thorsten)
+ some organic learning where the touchy / fragile code is.
+ some code has active maintainers (Miklos)
+ others areas need mentoring.
+ one alternative could be (my preference), I add a list to the ESC agenda like:
+ Gerrit patches from non-committers: 64, oldest December 12
=> can we have links to particularly scancdalous / old ones (Michael M)
+ Gerrit patches to be abandoned:
none
+ Status
+ Working with 5 newcomers at the moment
trying to get them to use dev, but it will only succeed if the get response
+ Preparing wiki pages with step-by-step overall
could do with help on how to use gdb for c++ tests (setting breakppoing in shared lib)
* l10n Update (Sophie)
+ nothing special; work ongoing.
* Commit Access
* Developer Certification (Stephan/Bjoern/Kendy/Thorsten)
+ punt another week until Bjoern returns.
* Jenkins / CI update (Norbert)
from:Thu Dec 31 15:03:15 2015
master linux rel jobs:167 ok:149 ko:18 fail ratio:10.77% break:3 broken duration:7.39%
master linux dbg jobs:166 ok:146 ko:17 fail ratio:10.24% break:3 broken duration:5.45%
master mac rel jobs:138 ok:96 ko:42 fail ratio:30.43% break:21 broken duration:28.45%
master mac dbg jobs:153 ok:112 ko:40 fail ratio:26.14% break:20 broken duration:20.82%
master win rel jobs:118 ok:95 ko:22 fail ratio:18.64% break:11 broken duration:18.91%
master win dbg jobs:114 ok:98 ko:15 fail ratio:13.15% break:6 broken duration:8.43%
master win64 dbg jobs:111 ok:95 ko:16 fail ratio:14.41% break:8 broken duration:7.6%
lo-4.4 mac jobs:0 ok:0 ko:0 fail ratio:0% break:0 broken duration:0%
gerrit win rel jobs:242 ok:151 ko:91 fail ratio:37.6%
gerrit lin rel jobs:248 ok:227 ko:21 fail ratio:8.46%
gerrit mac rel jobs:245 ok:158 ko:87 fail ratio:35.51%
gerrit all jobs:242 ok:97 ko:145 fail ratio:59.91%
+ Windows poor.
+ thanks to moggi - should get a lot better.
+ fixed some intermittent tests.
* Easy Hacks:
+ new easy-hacks thanks to: Thorsten Behrens
+ http://bit.ly/1mpGhJx
+ create your own by updating Keywords to eg.
"easyHack, difficultyBeginner, skillCpp, topicCleanup"
+ create new easy hacks from these proposed ones
(or remove the Keyword "needsDevEval" if not feasible):
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=needsDevEval
* SVG import filters (Thorsten)
+ proposal: rip out old Thorsten + Fridrich filter.
+ Xisco, Regina and Christina kindly helped.
+ but still not so great at rendering SVGs.
+ Armin's SVGIO seems better for now
=> deprecate in favour of svgio; save 2-3k LOC.
+ still 1-2 gerrit patches there (Michael S)
+ bit of a shame.
=> announce deprecation & removal of it in 5.2 timeframe
AI: + and CC & thank explicitly those who worked on this. (Thorsten)
* Commit stats (Thorsten)
+ should include Document Liberation into dev. stats.
=> slam dunk.
AI: + add assertions for these repos (Thorsten)
* QA update (Robinson)
+ UNCONFIRMED at 556 + 35 bugs in UX-advise
+ needAdvice at 79
+ whiteboard querying fix bumped the number.
+ Bugzilla: Migration of Whiteboard tags -> Keywords completed.
+ Standardization: changing have-backtrace, want-backtrace -> haveBacktrace, wantBacktrace
+ should make querying easier, with auto-completed fields.
+ Most Pressing Bugs:
http://ur1.ca/nkp0t
+ tdf#95709 - [DISPLAY] Presentation mode renders graphics wrong
+ tdf#96172 - Crash on opening DOCX
+ bibisected; anything futher QA can do?
+ tdf#89034 - OS X: Text not being justified in Persian and other RTL languages
+ Common issue -> lots of duplicates
+ Norbert bisecting (?)
+ Mail merge regressions (Bjoern)
+ http://bit.ly/1POJrmp (8 open; 7 open last meeting)
+ having a look (Thorsten, Kendy, Jan-Marek)
+ tdf#96847 - Android viewer crashes on every file (android 4.4.4)
+ Crash.
* QA stats
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
+149 -70 (+79 overall)
many thanks to the top bug squashers:
Beluga 12
Julien Nabet 6
Jean-Baptiste Faure 5
David Tardon 5
Michael Meeks 5
Cor Nouws 5
Maxim Monastirsky 4
raal 3
Fridrich Strba 2
V Stuart Foote 2
Laurent BP 2
Adolfo Jayme 2
Alex Thurgood 2
Miklos Vajna 1
Harald Koester 1
* Highest-Priority bugs (aka "MABs"):
5.2: 0/0 - 0% +0
5.1: 2/24 - 8% -2
5.0: 10/52 - 19% +0
4.4: 14/75 - 17% +1
4.3: 7/68 - 10% +0
4.2: 11/134 - 8% +1
4.1: 5/80 - 6% +0
4.0: 11/81 - 13% +1
old: 40/247 - 16% +0
* Bibisected bugs open: whiteboard 'bibisected'
+ ???/??? 353/1140 344/1125 343/1116 335/1103 336/1098 332/1088 341/1089
+ http://tdf.io/bibibugs
* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
+ 759(+15) bugs open of 4582(+53) total 40(+1) high prio.
* ~Component count net * high severity regressions
Calc - 17 (+0)
Writer - 12 (+2)
LibreOffice - 5 (-1)
graphics stack - 1 (-2)
Impress - 3 (+2)
Extensions - 1 (+0)
Base - 1 (+0)
+ http://bit.ly/1HWHb3E
* ~Component count net * all regressions
Writer - 242 (+3)
Calc - 167 (+4)
Crashes - 57 (+2)
Impress - 50 (+1)
UI - 46 (+1)
LibreOffice - 46 (+0)
graphics stack - 31 (-2)
Borders - 30 (+1)
Draw - 27 (+3)
Base - 27 (+1)
filters and storage - 19 (+0)
BASIC - 15 (-1)
Printing and PDF export- 12 (+0)
Chart - 13 (+2)
Formula Editor - 6 (+0)
Linguistic - 3 (+1)
Extensions - 3 (+0)
Installation - 2 (+0)
sdk - 1 (+0)
framework - 1 (-1)
+ http://bit.ly/1BUdI8i
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