minutes of ESC call ...
Michael Meeks
michael.meeks at collabora.com
Thu Jun 23 15:08:38 UTC 2016
* Present:
+ Stephan, Sophie, Jan-Marek, Miklos, Michael M, Andras, Caolán,
Kendy, Olivier, Norbert, Thorsten, Jan I, Robinson, Christian,
Norbert, Heiko, Michael S, Bjoern (22 minutes in)
* Completed Action Items:
+ back-port the per-processor thread-pool limit to 5-1 / 5-2 (Ashod)
+ Add & Welcome Giuseppe Castagno (Norbert, Stephan)
* Pending Action Items:
+ investigate a cron job that queries & auto-merges (Norbert)
+ if +2 by author and +1 by jenkins -> auto-push (on-going)
[ some problem; stream events don't contain both +1 and +2 -
a bit complicated; needs a query (Norbert) ]
+ tweak UI and get LiveConnect API key / build case for board (Christian)
+ attempt to re-build a recent gstreamer 1.0 / core spec file
on our CentOS6 base (tdf#94508) (Christian)
* Release Engineering update (Christian)
+ 5.2 RC1
+ published today, on mirros & website.
+ fix included for lang-pack install on Mac/OS & packaging for Linux
+ looking good.
+ in good shape for bug-hunting & crash-reporting.
+ 5.2 RC2
+ July 5th
+ will create libreoffice 5-2-0 branch
+ 5.1.4.2 - released & announced
+ 5.1.5 rc1 : July 12th (week 28)
+ help strings issues ? (Caolan)
+ fixed the strings, but not the tool.
+ Android & iOS Remote
* Documentation (Olivier)
+ Updated chapters under revision and proof-reading,
now ready for publishing.
+ more chapters to update on the way.
+ some help-content updates, due to translator bug finding.
+ Some improvements in Documentation page of the website - big buttons (Mike Saunders)
http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/documentation/
* GSoC 2016 (Thorsten)
+ Mid-Term evaluations! due June 26th
+ one pending !
+ ask/encourage students to submit & register for LibOCon
+ particularly for foreign students.
=> will be re-imbursed up to Eur 1k each, for more ask mentor.
* Heiko intro (Heiko)
+ studied psychology, did lots of stats, using computers
+ then moved into usability, started on LibreOffice some years ago.
* UX Update (Kendy/Heiko)
+ currently going through the draw tickets, to build a survey (Heiko)
+ surprising how many ways people have to deal with it
+ several feature-requests that can be solved,
benefitting the whole project
+ eg. navigator / object selection.
+ last meeting: (Kendy)
+ GSOC review
+ question on extensions - bring it here:
+ how much do we want to encourage people to create extensions ?
+ examples for possible extensions:
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=91874 (spotlight feature)
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=94148 (color reader)
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=67090 (barcode)
+ what to add to the core vs. extensions.
+ so far - ext'ns done by volunteers / external people.
+ finding things in BZ - that could be done as extensions
+ make little sense in the core.
+ keep core simple & clean - but keep it simple and clean.
+ eg. bar-code extension.
+ like simplicity & extensions.
+ one view: extension API awful (Michael)
+ really horribly hard to write document elements with them.
+ another view: beneficial (Stephan)
+ helps to have people finding problems & improving
APIs & integration.
+ had problems in the past with "bundled extensions"
+ one more: (Thorsten)
+ used to hate extensions,
+ but there is a hard barrier around C++
+ lots of Java / Python people out there.
+ mostly griping about the API surface not UNO (Michael)
+ bar-code horribly implemented too (Michael)
=> not at the stage of some blog-post for direction here (Kendy)
+ good to encourage people to write extensions of course.
+ case-by-case basis.
+ plus of extensions: portability between versions (JMux)
+ saves compiling their own version.
* Crashtest update (Caolan)
+ 1 import failures, 119 export failure, 0 coverity
+ earlier in the week was 0, 0, 0.
+ 119 failure are from new colormap index asserts and now fixed at png/bmp load time
+ Tor's 4bit bug-fix uncovered lots of evil.
+ should we be more bold converting dbg asserts to real ones ? (Thorsten)
+ if around to fix the fallout (Miklos)
+ eg. base URL of document not-empty etc.
+ prolly more here around binary validation (Thorsten)
+ looking good.
+ would be great to load as 24bit and ignore after that (Caolan)
* Hackfests (Bjoern)
+ next hackfests: nothing confirmed yet.
+ Hamburg Home-hacking setup ? (Bjoern)
[ various people on vacation now ]
+ next venues / suggestions
+ Chaos event - good for outreach; at the same time as Munich.
+ Infra Meetup: July 24th to 30th, close to Munich (kaufbeuren)
+ Akademy / FSFE summit - in the week before LibOCon ? (Thorsten)
+ more suggestions welcome
+ Autumn / week-long Home-Hacking in Hamburg with students? (Bjoern)
+ advertise at university ? C++ training ? etc.
* LibreOffice Conference in Brno - CfP open (Sophie)
+ Kendy & Thorsten on program committee:
+ https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2016/04/08/libreoffice-brno-conference-call-for-paper/
+ deadline is mid July.
=> think what to submit / chase people ...
+ travelling to Brno -> fly to Prague / Vienna unlikely to go direct.
* Mentoring/easyhack update (janI)
+ legend: contributors are not-yet-committers, numbers in () are +/- compared to last week
+ summary:
17332(-25) commits in a year of which 8657(-144) were made directly, without use of gerrit
292(-1) people made commits in a year, 72(40) in a month. 42(4) people to be emailed
+ gerrit: committer open 64(-1) contributor open 57( 9)
updated merged abandoned updated merged abandoned
year: 64(-1) 7218(76) 559(-3) 57(9) 1457(43) 478(2)
month: 60(-4) 891(-83) 43(3) 54(7) 190(26) 40(1)
week: 44(-7) 160(-42) 9(1) 31(-2) 58(16) 8(-3)
+ easyHacks:
total 231(2) open 201(0) assigned 20(2)
needinfo 10(0) needsDevEval 471(-3) needsUXEval 106(16)
missing cleanup due to many comments 185(3)
+ top 10 contributors (based on merged patches last month):
Zdenek Crhonek got 53 patches merged, and have a total of 59 merged patches
Muhammet Kara got 17 patches merged, and have a total of 31 merged patches
krishna keshav got 14 patches merged, and have a total of 14 merged patches
Jakub Trzebiatowski got 12 patches merged, and have a total of 20 merged patches
Mark Page got 10 patches merged, and have a total of 12 merged patches
+ new easyHacks:
none
+ create your own by updating Keywords to eg. "easyHack, difficultyBeginner, skillCpp, topicCleanup"
+ please remember, a codepointer is mandatory, and typically a look from an experienced developer
+ create new easy hacks from these ones or remove "needsDevEval" if not feasible):
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=needsDevEval
+ Week had a spike in gerrit patches, many for Calc test
+ encouraging to have lots of tests.
+ hopefully some students are getting stuck in in their vacations
+ https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/GSoC
+ completed the re-write
+ Considering making the "normal" build and setup as web (devcentral)
+ perhaps have a summary front-page & details in the wiki.
+ Design easy hacks, is without mentor and code pointers,
see e.g. https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=93782
+ several do not have code pointers / mentors.
+ setting tickets to Easy Hacks (Heiko)
+ developers can insert code-ptr / mentor etc.
+ how do you know it is easy ? (Norbert)
+ used to be a proposed easy-hack (Kendy)
+ is it still there ?
AI: + mark them as NEEDINFO & NeedsDevEval (Heiko)
+ was a keyword - NeedsDevEval (Michael S)
+ should prolly be easy / don't know where code is.
+ still exists (JanI)
+ need to find people to add code pointers !
* Commit Access
* Developer Certification (Stephan/Bjoern/Kendy/Thorsten)
=> timeout for 10 weeks.
* Jenkins / CI update (Norbert)
from:Thu Jun 16 14:01:54 2016
master linux rel jobs: 239 ok: 179 ko: 60 fail ratio: 25.10 % break: 8 broken duration: 7.19%
master linux dbg jobs: 134 ok: 120 ko: 13 fail ratio: 9.70 % break: 6 broken duration: 6.11%
master mac rel jobs: 145 ok: 139 ko: 4 fail ratio: 2.76 % break: 3 broken duration:13.19%
master mac dbg jobs: 153 ok: 149 ko: 4 fail ratio: 2.61 % break: 3 broken duration:13.60%
master win rel jobs: 162 ok: 156 ko: 4 fail ratio: 2.47 % break: 1 broken duration: 1.86%
master win dbg jobs: 152 ok: 144 ko: 7 fail ratio: 4.61 % break: 3 broken duration: 5.79%
master win64 dbg jobs: 155 ok: 145 ko: 7 fail ratio: 4.52 % break: 3 broken duration: 5.72%
lo-5.2 mac jobs: 38 ok: 38 ko: 0 fail ratio: 0.00 % break: 0 broken duration: 0.00%
lo-5.1 mac jobs: 13 ok: 13 ko: 0 fail ratio: 0.00 % break: 0 broken duration: 0.00%
+ meant to break:
gerrit win rel jobs: 405 ok: 332 ko: 73 fail ratio:18.02%
gerrit lin rel jobs: 405 ok: 307 ko: 96 fail ratio:23.70%
gerrit mac rel jobs: 399 ok: 300 ko: 99 fail ratio:24.81%
gerrit all jobs: 398 ok: 250 ko: 146 fail ratio:36.68%
+ Problems with network connectivity (Norbert)
+ causing remote machines to dis-connect
+ Jenkins doesn't re-connect
+ have to change the hostname repeatably; painful.
+ 3x in 2 days.
+ some Manitu / internet problem ? or ...
+ some CI delays - from noticing this.
+ can we get monitoring / external help ? (Thorsten)
+ just need to be admin on CI; Cloph is.
+ Jenkins is critical infra -> SMS notification ?
+ used to have an IRC bot for it (Norbert)
+ plugin caused it to hang.
+ infra added a new firewall / and network re-config (JanI)
+ should be stabilizing now.
+ Occasionally - a machine hangs inside a job
+ used to have signal handler / crashing
+ started seeing hangs again recently.
+ Europe / US connectivity issue - takes most macs off-line.
+ when it is slow checkout http://ci.libreoffice.org/
+ if we have red-crosses on the left; slaves off-line,
ping Cloph / Norbert.
* l10n (Sophie)
+ work going on quietly.
* Access to Mac & Windows machines (Michael S)
+ hard for some GSOC students eg. Firebird
+ can we provide remote Mac/Mini access ?
+ do we have a remote Windows VM ? (Michael M)
+ yes we have one (Cloph)
AI: + connect Cloph + Norbert to the opportunity (Michael S)
* QA update (Robinson)
+ Bug Hunting Session this Friday, June 24th (Tomorrow)
+ https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugHunting_Session_5.2.0_RC1
+ UNCONFIRMED: 634
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/reports.cgi?product=LibreOffice&datasets=UNCONFIRMED
+ enhancements: 66
+ in ux-advise: 28
+ needAdvice at 52
+ Most Pressing Bugs:
http://tdf.io/mostressingbugs
+ tdf#100295 - LibODev-5.2.0.0.b2 does not run in Windows_XP (32 or 64 bit)
+ Interest in fixing ? (or is this a 'feature' ?)
+ Tor - thinks a feature.
+ last time - 10% of Windows market (Michael)
+ compares vs. Mac install base.
+ can we bibisect for Windows to find what killed it.
+ could be related to breakpad ? (Cloph)
+ a duplicate with more info in it out there.
+ perhaps Moggi had a look ?
+ tdf#92516 - "x" accelerator and mouse click not exiting StartCenter
in "File -> Exit LibreOffice" menu on Windows.
+ Continue to see dupe reports, an annoyance
+ tdf#100458 - Data loss on loading Calc document with hidden 0 (Jan-Marek)
+ LHM has a lot of documents with this kind of formating
+ Proposed patch: https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/26435/
+ /me doesn't have enough knowledge of Calc - it's not clear what's the correct behaviour
+ See my last comments for some kind of reasoning
+ seems like a good proposal (Thorsten)
+ includes a unit test; all tests pass etc,. (Jmux)
=> merge it when build passes.
+ Mail merge regressions (Bjoern)
+ http://tdf.io/mmregressions (7 open; 7 open last meeting)
+ Tested -> waiting on info from some bug reporters,
couple suspicious of.
* QA stats
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
+143 -157 (-14 overall)
many thanks to the top bug squashers:
Caolán McNamara 19
Samuel Mehrbrodt 14
Adolfo Jayme 11
V Stuart Foote 11
Heiko Tietze 9
Buovjaga 8
Aron Budea 5
Cor Nouws 5
Laurent BP 5
Andras Timar 5
Eike Rathke 4
Alex Thurgood 4
Michael Stahl 3
* Highest-Priority bugs (aka "MABs"):
5.2: 3/13 - 23% +0
5.1: 2/28 - 7% +0
5.0: 7/53 - 13% +0
4.4: 7/73 - 9% +0
4.3: 5/68 - 7% +0
4.2: 8/133 - 6% +0
4.1: 4/79 - 5% +0
4.0: 10/82 - 12% +0
old: 34/248 - 13% +0
* Bibisected bugs open: whiteboard 'bibisected'
+ 364/1371 367/1371 365/1363 369/1361 366/1354 366/1352 371/1347
+ http://tdf.io/bibibugs
* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
+ 731(-2) bugs open of 4994(+16) total 11(-3) high prio.
* ~Component count net * high severity regressions
Calc - 4 (-1)
Writer - 4 (-2)
Impress - 1 (+0)
Base - 1 (+0)
LibreOffice - 1 (+0)
+ http://tdf.io/regressionscritical
* ~Component count net * all regressions
Writer - 227 (+0)
Calc - 138 (-3)
Impress - 58 (+1)
LibreOffice - 47 (-1)
graphics stack - 38 (-1)
UI - 38 (-1)
Borders - 32 (+0)
Crashes - 32 (-4)
Base - 31 (+3)
Draw - 26 (+0)
filters and storage - 22 (-1)
Chart - 15 (+0)
BASIC - 14 (-1)
Printing and PDF export- 11 (+0)
Formula Editor - 5 (+0)
Linguistic - 4 (+0)
Extensions - 3 (+1)
framework - 3 (+0)
Installation - 3 (+0)
sdk - 2 (+1)
+ http://tdf.io/allregressions
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