Minutes of the Design Hangout: 2017-Apr-20

Heiko Tietze tietze.heiko at googlemail.com
Thu Apr 20 12:17:42 UTC 2017

Present: Jay, Tomaz, Steve, Heiko


 * Procedure for tickets needsUXAdvice
   + ux-advice should be added to cc list when the keyword is set but what to do when it's removed
   + in order to reduce the number of emails to the ux-advice ML we delete it from CC when the keyword is removed
   + silent readers may add themselves to CC

 * Major release update / branding for 6.0
   + OSD job submitted https://github.com/opensourcedesign/jobs/pull/197
   + blog post with invitation prepared, waiting that the job is accepted


 * Visual design of tabs
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106323
   + commented on the bug report (Jay)
   + if we improve things it, has to be the generic toolkit

 * Revert selection mode to standard when done
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=88474
   + currently when you cancel the selection the mode is reverted from Adding, for instance, to standard
   + pro reverting to standard (as today): cancel is not the normal operation and mostly users expect it to be reverted
   + con: other tools keep the manually set mode until the user changes it back
   + Microsoft toggles selection mode per alt (block mode) and ctrl (addition) (but not in combination)
   + there is an inconsistency between keyboard use that reverts the selection and the toolbar/menu, which keeps the mode
   + would prefer the Microsoft way to use only keyboard accelerators (that are by nature temporarily) (Heiko)
   + LibreOffice has shortcuts https://help.libreoffice.org/Common/Selection_Mode (Jay)
   + We have ctrl/shift/alt + left mouse for the different modes so could remove the static switch (Heiko)
   + feedback is needed, e.g. different icons in statusbar (Tomaz), and ideally also with the cursor (Jay)
   + decision is to keep the static selection, make it consistent over the UI, make it really static and keep it after escape
     but the preferred method is to use the keyboard accelerators

 * Sidebar customization settings not remembered after reopening (Steve)
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=67770
   + Fixed?
   + No issue in LibO fresh for sidebar open/closed, shown/hidden 
   + but the active deck is not remembered, which is required for people who use it only for styles
   + workaround is to disable the unneeded decks; the first deck is shown by default

 * Confirmation for overall actions such as deletion of comments
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=78302
   + Do we want to introduce a guideline to confirm actions that affect not only the current selection?
   + Yes means to let the user confirm 'delete all comments', for example, No means to keep the current behavior
   + better decide about confirmation on the particular situations
   + undo is sufficient in this particular (and most other) topic (Jay)
   => as a general rule, have a confirmation when undo is not possible

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