Minutes of ESC call: 2017-03-02
Jan Holesovsky
kendy at collabora.com
Fri Mar 3 10:41:09 UTC 2017
* Present:
+ Stephan, Sophie, Norbert, Christian, Thorsten, Michael S, Michael M, Stefan W.Caolan, Heiko,
Kendy, JanI, Olivier, Thorsten, Xisco, Bjoern, Miklos, Bubli
* Completed Action Items:
* Pending Action Items:
+ collect names of Perugia / Hackfest interested mentors in a wiki page (Bjoern)
* Release Engineering update (Christian)
+ 5.2.6 RC2
+ taggedd & build and on pre-release server
+ 5.3.1 RC2
+ two patches waiting in the queue, branch is prepared
+ translations updated yesterday.
+ https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/q/status:open+branch:libreoffice-5-3-1
+ final release shifted one week.
+ Android & iOS Remote
+ online (Michael)
+ 5.3.1.2 release up-loaded by Timar - Monday.
+ happy with that RC2 if it's done (Thorsten)
* Online (Michael)
+ entirely new socket code – big, disruptive feature:
+ completely re-written: non-blocking, not threaded for 5.4
+ lets see how it hangs out - next time.
+ concerns around -5-3
+ concerned about the quality of that -> that's why we have gerrit review
+ no users -> no bugs -> no fiixes -> working on providing all three of it
+ good to have CIB working on it.
+ concerned wrt. UI freeze / feature breakage there - and core effects too.
+ couple to look at:
+ https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/34793/1
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106273
+ tdf#106273 Various performance/stability fixes
+ merges 20+ commits (seems mostly fixes, with a few improvements sneaked in)
+ PNG cache / hash feature
+ vector -> dequeu converion
+ exeption handling / tile combining change + revert
+ writer part fixes
+ tile queue change.
+ improved MessageQueue & its revert.
+ commiitted under Samuel's name - tons of Collabora work.
+ if a feature / disruptive - shouldn't merge (Thorsten)
+ good to have it maintained though.
+ https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/34791
+ tdf#106276 loleaflet: notify repair document when exists a conflict of ...
+ can't work without core changes -> missing Henry's patch to core
+ changes an UNO command -> return values.
+ adds a new dialog with a new string.
+ don't know it belongs on the -5-3 branch.
+ at least not without the core changes (Thorsten)
+ a challenge to sync core & online changes, we need to come up with a sustainable plan there anyway
+ perhaps a SHA1 in online referencing a core version, ala submodules?
+ would love a normal approach here (Michael)
+ agreed same rules should apply to both core and online (Thorsten)
+ core rules around review:
+ new features:
+ 2 approves from different companies + 3 reviews.
+ can't count author of patch as one approver if they didn't approve it (Michael)
+ same rules apply to both online and core (Thorsten)
+ Andras patches to -5-3 with sign-off, without gerrit.
+ that's the current practice for fixes (Michael)
+ stable branch for fixes (Norbert)
+ distinction for stable branch on core or anything else.
+ diversity with some company involved is helpful.
+ core - some ACLs - can't push direct on release branch (Norbert)
+ want test builds on Jenkins (Michael S)
+ doesn't apply to online repo.
+ in principle - things should be reviewed on stable (Norbert)
+ Andras reviewing those.
+ should we accept can't treat someone's authorship as a review for back-porting ?
+ online should be treated as core for stable branch.
+ if that patch was for core - would we accept & worry about it.
=> don't count original authorship as one of two corporate 'review for a branch'.
* Bump master baseline from MSVC 2013 to 2015? (Stephan)
+ ok with bumping base-line for 5.4 (Cloph)
=> re-visit next week with more data from Norbert.
+ are we happy switching the bots ?
+ did install Visual Studio 2015 - on bots we have.
+ once was able to upgrade the Pro version to SP3 - but on another box had issues.
+ they all have a Visual Studio 2015 now.
+ compatibility with WinXP options (Norbert)
+ should we drop XP and switch to 64bit.
+ these are independent decisions (Stephan)
+ lets de-couple these decisions (Michael)
=> can encourage David to push commit series to raise base-line to 2015.
+ with our thanks
+ good stuff (Thorsten)
+ do any tinderboxes need updating ? (Stephan)
+ Thorsten + Cloph.
+ can we remove support initially in a small commit ? (Michael)
+ did lots of builds before this (Norbert)
+ don't expect it will break any CI.
+ this helps rid us of duplicate pythons
+ constexpr commits coming from me (Stephan)
+ stable branch is VS 2013 - careful of backports (Norbert)
+ community edition IDE can't be used until you register
+ E-mail + Account on MS stuff...
+ only blocks the IDE, not compiler.
+ was some registration needed in the build ? (Stephan)
+ some project or makefile conversion (Thorsten)
+ someone claimed it was a red herring.
* Documentation (Olivier)
+ Published Getting started 5.2
+ http://documentation.libreoffice.org
+ Ajusted template to export to XHTML, read-online
+ Adjusted pages for download
+ Patch for TDF#105831 (donate entry in help menu)
+ https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/34693/
+ Help online 3
+ waiting for pootle to be adjusted in / infra to apply scripts.
+ patches waiting until pootle back in our infra (Cloph)
+ changing the meta-data
+ some conversions missing - bypassing django-based DB.
+ once that is done - we can move back to our infra.
+ will do seperation of libreoffice-5-3 projects.
+ pootle currently on translate.za's AWS server.
+ waiting for Dwayne to mail him saying its done (Cloph)
+ same script - used for FOSDEM migration; but are writing an auto-validator.
* UX Update (Heiko)
+ Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
251(251) (topicUI) bugs open, 477(477) (needsUXEval) needs to be evaluated by the UXteam
+ Updates:
BZ changes 1 week 1 month 3 months 12 months
added 2(-3) 12(-3) 34(-4) 496(1)
commented 24(-31) 217(-5) 716(-13) 3695(-10)
removed 1(0) 2(1) 8(1) 38(0)
resolved 2(-4) 46(0) 97(-5) 197(2)
+ top 10 contributors:
Faulí Tarazona, Xisco made 162 changes in 1 month, and 371 changes in 1 year
Tietze, Heiko made 133 changes in 1 month, and 2144 changes in 1 year
Foote, V Stuart made 41 changes in 1 month, and 677 changes in 1 year
Cor Nouws made 36 changes in 1 month, and 493 changes in 1 year
Philips, Yousuf made 30 changes in 1 month, and 1502 changes in 1 year
Thomas Lendo made 29 changes in 1 month, and 32 changes in 1 year
Buovjaga made 26 changes in 1 month, and 352 changes in 1 year
Kainz, Andreas made 14 changes in 1 month, and 15 changes in 1 year
*UNKNOWN* made 9 changes in 1 month, and 16 changes in 1 year
LibreTraining made 9 changes in 1 month, and 9 changes in 1 year
+ Minimum screen size: WXGA 1280x768
+ (changed from http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/system-requirements/ )
+ some complaints inevitable but ? ...
+ vertical size more important than width (Michael)
+ still 768 pixels.
+ depends on system theme - with large menu item padding - so scroll up and down.
+ Planning a survey about table styles to update the implemented versions with the proposals from last year
+ work is planned to change the styles.
+ Publisher.ch referenced the freecolor-hlc palette
+ Swiss journal announced - available as a hard color fan / physical print-out.
+ also in our product - LibreOffice only one for pro. printing in Open Source.
* Crashtest update (Caolan)
+ 0 import failure, 2 export failures
+ down to almost nothing again.
+ 169 coverity issues.
+ down slightly, but still high.
+ Google / ossfuzz: 22 fuzzers active now
+ LWP recently added, next is PPT.
* Hackfests (Bjoern)
+ next venues / suggestions
+ Ladies who FOSS – sometime in March (Bubli)
+ organized in Berlin.
+ monthly now, 16th March the next time (Bubli)
+ unfortunately during a working day
+ April 20th the next one
+ Italian hack-fest coming up: 4 days May 27-30th
+ Perugia University
+ ...
+ event in Spain (Xisco)
+ will be in Malaga for Open conference in May
+ http://www.opensouthcode.org/conference/opensouthcode2017
+ an idea to do something.
+ Xisco giving a talk there too - be good to meet up.
+ UX people: Arnaud suggested a UX meeting (Heiko)
+ perhaps in Corsica; acknowledged - UX people.
+ like the idea
+ love to have some devs there too (Michael)
+ have a topic focus on UX.
+ Essen meeting (Bjoern)
+ suggestions for bike-shedding topics to get people interesting
+ UX / Extensions ?
+ suggested dates in April 15th or 23rd German community coming up with that.
+ not nailed down yet
+ another hackfest in Spain for Document Freedom Day (Xisco)
+ in Granada, will have more info shortly (Xisco)
+ worth talking to Italo to do some PR - it is close (Bjoern)
+ do you need VM's? (Bjoern)
+ will talk to Cloph if yes (Xisco)
* mentoring/easyhack update (JanI)
+ openhub statistics (2017-02-10), 277(277) people did 15401(15401) commits in 12 month in 8804167(8804167) lines of code
+ gerrit/git statistics:
committer... 1 week 1 month 3 months 12 months
open 49(-18) 93(-10) 102(-7) 109(-6)
reviews 429(15) 1583(-106) 4363(-16) 17252(-15)
merged 195(-2) 898(-18) 2747(-95) 9929(77)
abandoned 12(-2) 56(-1) 138(-6) 660(-5)
own commits 354(-90) 1652(18) 3135(22) 17328(-46)
review commits 31(-25) 209(-4) 425(-33) 3321(-24)
contributor... 1 week 1 month 3 months 12 months
open 18(7) 40(-1) 49(5) 49(5)
reviews 497(-31) 2050(-39) 5272(-156) 18673(92)
merged 6(-16) 75(-5) 200(-2) 786(-9)
abandoned 4(-1) 23(0) 81(-2) 270(-4)
own commits 5(-18) 76(-7) 120(-3) 755(-11)
review commits 0(0) 0(0) 0(0) 0(0)
+ easyHack statistics:
needsDevEval 23(23) needsUXEval 0(0) cleanup_comments 188(188)
total 229(229) assigned 26(26) open 178(178)
+ received patches from 0 emails the last month without licesense statement
+ top 5 contributors:
Johnny_M made 8 patches in 1 month, and 13 patches in 1 year
Prajapati Gautam made 6 patches in 1 month, and 6 patches in 1 year
Röllin Lukas made 5 patches in 1 month, and 5 patches in 1 year
Dumas, Arnold made 5 patches in 1 month, and 26 patches in 1 year
Donkers, Winfried made 5 patches in 1 month, and 52 patches in 1 year
+ top 5 reviewers:
Iversen, Jan made 178 review comments in 1 month, and 1527 in 1 year
Stahl, Michael made 147 review comments in 1 month, and 1098 in 1 year
Vajna, Miklos made 129 review comments in 1 month, and 1160 in 1 year
Mohrhard, Markus made 123 review comments in 1 month, and 1831 in 1 year
McNamara, Caolán made 107 review comments in 1 month, and 1466 in 1 year
+ big CONGRATULATIONS to contributors who have at least 1 merged patch, since last report:
NONE
+ warning signal: no new license staements in 2 weeks, and very low
patch actvity
* GsoC update (Thorsten)
+ we're accepted!
+ awesome!
+ please point that out to students if you know any (Thorsten)
+ sign up as mentors please! (Thorsten)
AI: + org admins to invite listed mentors (once gsoc page bug is fixed) (Thorsten)
+ multiple things tweaked in the program at the same time by Google - interesting to see how it pans out this year(Thorsten)
+ advertising tweet from LibreOffice? (Miklos)
AI: + would be good to have one, will look into that (Thorsten)
+ timeline:
+ now - March 20: spread the news, attract students
+ March 20 - April 3 16:00 UTC: student submissions
+ April 3 - 16: review proposals
+ April 17, 16:00 UTC: deadline to submit slot requests
+ April 19, 16:00 UTC: slot allocations announced
+ April 19 - 24 16:00 UTC: choose proposals, assign mentors
+ May 4 - 29: projects public, community bonding period starts
+ May 29: last day to report inactive students
+ May 30: coding begins
+ June 26-30: first eval
+ July 24 - second eval
+ August 21- 29: pens down, wrap up
+ August 29 - September 5: final evaluations of students
+ September 6: passing projects announced
* crash reporter news (?)
+ http://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/5.3.0.3
+ http://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/5.2.5.1
+ 5.2.4.2 – still plaguing us.
+ long tail expected.
+ for comparison, had a look at what's in Ubuntu's crash reporter (Bjoern)
+ Ubuntu top 20 occurrences last month in libreoffce counts:
22, 18, 17, 17, 16, 14, 9, 8, 7, 6, 6, 6, 5, 5, 4, 4, 4, 4, 4, 4
+ for comparision, top 20 occurances Ubuntu-wide counts:
8565, 3217, 562, 512, 459, 454, 425, 418, 323, 295, 288, 284, 282, 257, 249, 235, 198, 198, 195, 184
+ Of the top 20 libreoffice occurance counts: different stacktraces(occurence count for 1+occurence count for 2+...=total occurance count)
+ not usable: 8 (22+18+14+8+6+5+4+4=81)
+ rarely seen after: 5.2.x 5 (17+7+6+6+4=40)
+ 5.1.x 3 (17+16+4=37)
+ 4.3.x 1 (4=4)
+ 4.2.x 1 (9=9)
+ 3.5.x 2 (5+4=9)
=> so 40 out of 99 crashes = 40% of all crashers seem to be in master still
+ improved quite a bit (Bjoern)
* Commit Access
* Developer Certification (Stephan/Bjoern/Kendy/Thorsten)
+ web page is now updated (Stephan)
+ turns out there is a duplicate page which was out of date.
* https://www.documentfoundation.org/gethelp/developers/
* https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/professional-support/
+ 7 week sleep.
* Jenkins / CI update (Norbert)
+ usual week
from:Thu Feb 23 15:56:05 2017
master linux rel jobs: 239 ok: 226 ko: 13 fail ratio: 5.44 % break: 7 broken duration: 7.93%
master linux dbg jobs: 186 ok: 180 ko: 5 fail ratio: 2.69 % break: 2 broken duration: 3.21%
master mac rel jobs: 208 ok: 198 ko: 10 fail ratio: 4.81 % break: 7 broken duration: 3.91%
master mac dbg jobs: 200 ok: 191 ko: 9 fail ratio: 4.50 % break: 7 broken duration: 4.27%
master win rel jobs: 152 ok: 135 ko: 16 fail ratio: 10.53 % break: 11 broken duration: 7.80%
master win dbg jobs: 149 ok: 135 ko: 13 fail ratio: 8.72 % break: 9 broken duration: 6.32%
master win64 dbg jobs: 155 ok: 141 ko: 13 fail ratio: 8.39 % break: 8 broken duration: 7.00%
lo-5.2 mac jobs: 15 ok: 15 ko: 0 fail ratio: 0.00 % break: 0 broken duration: 0.00%
lo-5.3 mac jobs: 24 ok: 24 ko: 0 fail ratio: 0.00 % break: 0 broken duration: 0.00%
branch gerrit all jobs: 19 ok: 14 ko: 4 fail ratio:21.05%
master gerrit lin jobs: 307 ok: 275 ko: 31 fail ratio:10.10%
master gerrit plg jobs: 306 ok: 253 ko: 51 fail ratio:16.67%
master gerrit win jobs: 305 ok: 205 ko: 96 fail ratio:31.48%
master gerrit mac jobs: 306 ok: 249 ko: 50 fail ratio:16.34%
master gerrit all jobs: 307 ok: 173 ko: 127 fail ratio:41.37%
* l10n (Sophie)
+ documented TestLink instance which have several languages available (Sophie)
+ will be ready for the l10n community in ~2weeks
+ https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/TestLink
* QA update (Xisco)
+ UNCONFIRMED: 468 (+11)
+ enhancements: 35 (+2)
+ needsUXEval: 0 (0)
+ haveBackTrace: 12 (0)
+ needsDevAdvice: 45 (+9)
+ documentation: 5 (+1)
+ went through the crashers, and tweaked the severity of the ones that looked important (Xisco)
+ even though reported some time ago
+ Xisco provided a list of bugs with no unittest (Sophie)
+ Most Pressing Bugs: http://tdf.io/mostressingbugs
+ New:
+ FORMATTING: When undo and redo, custom styles and formatting lost, or full crash.
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=88555
+ Bubli ?
+ Comparing two files makes LibreOffice crash
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=98202
+ very old issue from 3.3.x (!)
+ Crash when saving a particular document as DOCX
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=101178
+ Synerzip issue
+ Crash in: SwWrtShell::CalcAndSetScal - in Writer paste table from Calc multiple times using autocaption
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=102286
+ not bisected
+ Crash in Calc when selecting "Uniform Integer" with an max value "100000000000000" in "Random Number Generator
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=104117
+ Kohei looking at it
+ Tomaž Vajngerl submitted a patch: 23672df737258391bd9533e61733c6cc70b9a5eb
+ FILEOPEN: Crash of LibreOffice Calc when activating macros
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=104383
+ Kohei ?
+ Fixed:
+ Writer crashed while adding a word to the standard dictionary
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106123
+ thanks to Caolan for fixing.
+ Left clicking after right clicking on Comments in Navigator crashes LO
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106159
+ thanks to Caolan
* QA stats
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
+117 -182 (-65 overall)
many thanks to the top bug squashers:
QA Administrators 83
Xisco Faulí 18
Khaled Hosny 7
Julien Nabet 6
V Stuart Foote 6
Aron Budea 5
m.a.riosv 5
Buovjaga 4
Justin L 4
Winfried Donkers 4
Mark Hung 3
Luis 3
Miklos Vajna 3
Caolán McNamara 3
Heiko Tietze 3
+ top 10 bugs reporters:
Kant, Pranav 4
Balland-Poirier, Laurent 4
Kainz, Andreas 4
Kelemen, Gabor 3
sergio.callegari 3
jan d 2
McNamara, Caolán 2
Tietze, Heiko 2
Philips, Yousuf 2
Amin, Fakabbir 2
+ top 10 bugs fixers:
Donkers, Winfried 4
Faulí Tarazona, Xisco 3
Tietze, Heiko 3
Kaganski, Mike 3
Kłos, Szymon 3
McNamara, Caolán 2
Henschel, Regina 2
Vajna, Miklos 2
Justin L 2
Nabet, Julien 1
* Highest-Priority bugs (aka "MABs"):
5.3: 2/31 - 6% (+0)
5.2: 3/28 - 10% (+0)
5.1: 2/34 - 5% (+0)
5.0: 3/58 - 5% (+1)
4.4: 6/74 - 8% (+3)
4.3: 5/72 - 6% (+0)
4.2: 6/132 - 4% (+0)
4.1: 4/80 - 5% (+1)
4.0: 4/81 - 4% (+0)
old: 29/253 - 11% (+1)
+ http://bit.ly/2lJAAJI
* Bisected bugs open: keyword 'bisected'
+ more accurate - down to a single commit.
+ 352/1284 354/1270 352/1255 350/1239 342/1220 339/1211 338/1196
+ http://bit.ly/2dyIfDy
+ Done by:
Faulí Tarazona, Xisco 8
Budea, Áron 4
Jean-Baptiste Faure 1
* Bibisected bugs open: keyword 'bibisected'
+ 420/1826 423/1814 419/1797 419/1782 411/1761 410/1754 410/1737
+ http://bit.ly/2cSCXlS
+ Done by:
Faulí Tarazona, Xisco 8
Budea, Áron 3
* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
+ 774(-5) bugs open of 5774(+21) total 14(+1) high prio.
+ Done by:
Faulí Tarazona, Xisco 11
Alex Thurgood 2
Budea, Áron 2
Yotam Benshalom 1
Kevin, Suo 1
Hosny, Khaled 1
* ~Component count net * high severity regressions
LibreOffice - 4 (+1)
Calc - 2 (+2)
Base - 2 (+0)
Impress - 2 (+0)
Writer - 2 (-1)
Extensions - 1 (+0)
graphics stack – 1 (+0)
Formula Editor – 0 (-1)
+ http://bit.ly/1HWHb3E
by OS:
+ Mac - 5
+ All - 5
+ Linux - 2
+ Windows - 2
* ~Component count net * all regressions
Calc - 127 (+2)
Writer: other – 120 (-4)
Impress - 73 (-3)
Writer: docx - 67 (+0)
LibreOffice - 57 (+2)
UI - 44 (-1)
graphics stack - 40 (-1)
Writer: doc - 38 (+0)
Base - 32 (+0)
Borders – 30 (+0)
Draw – 30 (+0)
Crashes – 28 (-2)
Writer: filter – 23 (-1)
Writer: perf – 22 (+1)
filter / storage – 21 (+0)
Chart - 21 (+1)
print / PDF export - 13 (+0)
BASIC - 11 (+0)
Extensions - 3 (+0)
framework - 3 (+0)
Installation - 2 (+0)
sdk - 1 (+0)
Formula Editor - 1 (-1)
+ http://bit.ly/1BUdI8i
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