Minutes from the UX/design meeting 2018-Dec-06

Drew Jensen drewjensen.inbox at gmail.com
Thu Dec 6 14:41:47 UTC 2018

I was just now looking at this using the tabbed notebook interface (though
I'm running the 6.3Alpha0 build, so maybe there is some difference there
from 6.2) and I see that the different places where the header/footer
dialog is available already enables or disables depending on what was
selected in the page format dialog.  Given that the page format button is
next to the header/footer button it becomes a visual clue that when you
disable them in the page format dialog and return to the main window the
h/f dialog button is immediately disabled.

Plus it is good to see that both the page format and header/footer dialog
is available during print preview, which is where one can notice that it is
or isn't there, right.

My question Is; Will this change in menus to happen in the 6.2 release?

Thanks and best wishes,


On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 9:27 AM Samuel Mehrbrodt <s.mehrbrodt at gmail.com>

> Am 06.12.2018 um 15:12 schrieb Heiko Tietze:
> > Please comment on BZ
> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=121759;
> I already commented a week ago:
> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=121759#c6
> >   so far there is no other opinion and yours would be 1 against 2.
> Since when is this decided by votes?
> I tried to do what you are doing (disable header and footer by default
> in Calc) some time ago, but I came to the conclusion that there needs to
> be some serious UX improvements before we can do that.
> Joe Average will not know how to enable them (that he has to go to
> Format->Page to enable them).
> If you want to disable headers and footers by default, you need to
> 1) Always enable the Insert->Header/Footer menu entry
> 2) Add an option to enable Header/Footer to the Header/Footer dialog
> or something similiar.
> Regards
> Samuel
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