Minutes from the design meeting 2018/Mar/21

Heiko Tietze tietze.heiko at gmail.com
Wed Mar 21 20:42:04 UTC 2018

Present: Stuart, Andreas, Heiko


 * Use character style for auto-format like *bold*
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=115418
   + unclear use case and benefit (Heiko)
   + AutoCorrect options for markup strikeout and italic are added commit (Tiago Santos)
   + we would have to add default character styles for underline and strikeout first (Stuart)
   + Advantage of character style on export and we have a pedagogic mission
   + Drawback when user reconfigure the inbuilt styles; we do not have control over the actual markup correction (Heiko)
   + implement option to either have character style or direct formatting (Stuart)
     + strongly opposing to this option (Heiko)

 * Improve wording of "Skip empty cells" 
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=116448
   + Example: source with 1,_,2 and target _,a,_ copy source and paste special over target with/wo skip
   + Options: "Skip empty source cells", "Don't override with empty cells" 
   => no further opinion so lets keep the original text and add a tooltip
      "If enabled, blank cells in source will not override the target."

 * Remove functions "3 seconds in Insert/Delete mode" (alt+insert, alt+delete in Writer > Tables)
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=116452
   + https://help.libreoffice.org/Writer/Shortcut_Keys_for_Writer#Shortcut_Keys_for_Tables_in_LibreOffice_Writer
   + a time slot is a bad workflow; better repeat last command, make function sticky (like clone formatting), etc. (Heiko)
   + original summary needs to get adjusted; we have to decide one by one about hard-coded key combinations (Stuart)
   + no easter egg hunt
   => no disagreement, so let's go, blessing from the ESC assumed

 * Remove tooltips from Writer tables
  + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=116297
  + How about a longer timeout for tooltips to appear (say, 4 seconds)? (Adolfo)
    + don't mess up with timers; should all be defined by the system but isn't actually (Heiko)
  + Transparency doesn't work (Csongor on BZ)
  + we should keep the tooltips because of accessibility (Stuart)
  => provide an expert option to not show tooltips on tables

 * Default icon set on Windows (or on for all builds?)
   + Windows builds better served moving them off of Tango/Galaxy legacy (Stuart)
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90194 (Tango > Colibre)
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=115867 (Colibre)
     + planning variants in different colors but as extensions (Andreas)
   + ask the community and ship only one icon theme (Heiko)
     + reasons for one artwork only (icon theme, font, notebookbar etc.)
       # intransparent development without any user request and no clear requirement
       # removal becomes controversial with time
       # maintanence trouble
       # size of binaries
     + and deliver icon themes via extension? Not a fan... (Stuart)
     + aim for system/theme mimicry (Andreas)
   + In exchange for the new theme, file an easy hack to kill off Crystal (Adolfo)
     + we have in master Breeze, Breeze Dark, High Contrast, Sifr Dark, Tango, Elementary, 
       Colibre, Sifr, Galaxy (R.I.P. Crystal since 4.x?)
   => no agreement for one theme only
   => 1a. backport to 6.0.x and optionally 1b. make Colibre the default for Windows for 6.0
      (do a big announcement with marketing)
      2. make Colibre the fallback for 6.1 and flag Crystal obsolete or move it directly into an extension
      3. include in LOOL
   => to be discussed: the future of Tango (see 90194)

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