ESC meeting minutes: 2020-04-30
Miklos Vajna
vmiklos at collabora.com
Thu Apr 30 14:53:29 UTC 2020
* Present:
+ Cloph, Ilmari, Caolan, Stephan, Michael W, Olivier, Miklos, Eike, Xisco, Michael S, Heiko, Gabriel, Kendy, Michael M
* Completed Action Items:
+ None
* Pending Action Items:
+ None
* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
+ 7.0 status: alpha next week, feature freeze is last week of May
+ 6.4 status: 6.4.4 rc1 is tagged yesterday
+ 6.3 status: last release is out
+ Remotes
+ Android viewer
+ Android tinderbox has problems, need HW help -> still broken
+ maybe it’ll be moved to TDF infra
+ Online
* Documentation (Olivier)
+ New Help
+ updated icon replacement table (ohallot)
+ Added module brand color to module’s help page (ohallot)
+ Helpcontent2
+ Updates and fixes (ohallot, LibreOfficiant, fitoshido, A. Gelmini)
+ Guides
+ work in progress.
+ Google Season of Doc
+ How about API documentation?
+ opportunity for external tech writer to address $subject
+ need to format as project
+ scenario: basic or python macro author, too much details, no overview
+ somebody who comes from the VBA world
+ then the project would not be about the specific UNOIDL interfaces (Stephan)
+ rather how to use it from basic/python, it’s a question how to scope such a project
+ it’s not clear if somebody external can author such documentation
+ typical scenario: inspect UNO objects, then go to interface documentation (Olivier)
+ want to help from-VBA migration
+ DevGuide addresses part of that (Stephan)
+ if you want some higher level documentation, not individual interfaces
+ interface vs object is not that separate for basic/python (compared to Java/C++)
+ autodoc was a bit easier (Olivier)
+ think doxygen makes this harder now
+ agrees with Stephan (Michael S)
+ would it be possible to put comments from IDL into RDB and access them via reflection?
+ or have some mechanism, so you can go from an interface name and open online documentation (Stephan)
+ do you have any other idea in mind? (Xisco)
+ have to think about it (Olivier)
* UX Update (Heiko)
+ Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
245(245) (topicUI) bugs open, 269(269) (needsUXEval) needs to be evaluated by the UXteam
+ Updates:
BZ changes 1 week 1 month 3 months 12 months
added 18(9) 30(10) 88(11) 172(10)
commented 136(61) 425(70) 1069(58) 3329(119)
removed 1(1) 2(0) 36(1) 44(1)
resolved 8(0) 48(4) 121(3) 314(6)
+ top 10 contributors:
Heiko Tietze made 276 changes in 1 month, and 1831 changes in 1 year
Kainz, Andreas made 141 changes in 1 month, and 432 changes in 1 year
Dieter Praas made 78 changes in 1 month, and 526 changes in 1 year
Ilmari Lauhakangas made 47 changes in 1 month, and 103 changes in 1 year
Foote, V Stuart made 46 changes in 1 month, and 551 changes in 1 year
Telesto made 35 changes in 1 month, and 64 changes in 1 year
Timur made 27 changes in 1 month, and 202 changes in 1 year
Rizal Muttaqin made 17 changes in 1 month, and 63 changes in 1 year
Thomas Lendo made 16 changes in 1 month, and 256 changes in 1 year
NISZ LibreOffice Team made 15 changes in 1 month, and 34 changes in 1 year
+ New tickets with needsUXEval Apr/23-30
-> * UX: Ignore all option in spell check is an unexpected full session
setting
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=132505
+ dev input is much appreciated
* When in text edit mode, ignore the hit area of other text boxes that
overlap with the box being edited
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=126874
* Unable to control table formatting in Writer
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=132313
* IMPRESS: drag and drop of an image into a text field results in display
of file name instead of image
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=126860
* Colibre: Too large size for Impress' Display Views icons
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=132399
* When protecting image content, you cannot add a caption
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=132315
* Track changes submenu is missing
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=132168
* Adopt new application icons for LibreOffice 7.0
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=132398
* Font feature dialog: Reimplement some checkboxes as tri-state
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=127423
* On new installation, why not ask user for his name as it would be used
in the identification form
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=132357
-> * EDITING Remove Blinking character property from UI/Editor
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=132373
+ deprecate/hide blinking text feature
=> unconfirmed/new, in discussion
+ MS canceled the actual effect in MSO
+ do we want to retire this feature? (Heiko)
+ <blink> is ignored by browsers (Ilmari)
+ helps a11y as well (if removal happens)
+ Regina is against the removal, it’s a working feature
+ it was a feature from ‘97 when Writer wanted to be a html editor (Michael S)
+ could just not blink the text + hide UI
+ still retain the char property
=> OK to remove rendering + UI, but keep the actual data (all)
* FILEOPEN DOCX: No continuous line at the left side
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=104346
* Handle line attributes like area fill when merging shapes
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=127753
* "Find and replace" finds/replaces text deleted with "record/track
changes"
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36582
* Image rotation broken when caption is added (portrait vs. landscape)
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=132314
=> bug/enhancement, accepted
* Opentype features window is longer than screen size and it is difficult
to reach ok/cancel buttons
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128176
=> easyhack
* Crash Testing (Caolan)
+ 16(-1) import failure, 7(-1) export failures
+ 1 coverity issues
+ 9 ossfuzz issues
+ crashtesting script is now improved: we now also re-import our own output (Xisco)
* Crash Reporting (Xisco)
+ https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/6.3.5.2
+ (+57) 1828 1771 1474 1755 1845 1565 1167 961 635 312 0
+ https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/6.4.1.2
+ (-35) 2195 2230 1961 2884 4166 5344 5609 3687 2052 0
+ https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/6.4.2.2
+ (-1104) 5765 6869 6527 8046 6988 3716 0
+ https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/6.4.3.2
+ (+2129) 4328 2199 0
+ non-resolved dll names are depending on the Windows version used for reporting, possibly (Xisco)
+ hard to see the trend till this is unresolved
* GSoC 2020 (Ilmari)
+ Proposal selection will be submitted to Google today, everything is ready
+ April 30 - May 4: Google Program Admins will do another review of student eligibility
+ May 4: Accepted GSoC 2020 students/projects are announced
+ June 1, 2020 - July 3, 2020: Students work on their projects
* Mentoring/easyhack update
+ reviewing patches from first contributors is much appreciated (Muhammet)
+ https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/q/status:open+-label:Code-Review=-1+-label:Verified=-1+-ownerin:Committers
committer... 1 week 1 month 3 months 12 months
open 88(-9) 137(-21) 142(-22) 158(-24)
reviews 450(-56) 1486(-136) 4716(-344) 22559(-330)
merged 377(13) 1528(37) 4538(35) 18726(-8)
abandoned 26(-3) 119(5) 295(9) 1014(-12)
own commits 355(42) 1285(101) 3799(30) 15422(64)
review commits 119(49) 348(23) 1182(-26) 4646(33)
contributor... 1 week 1 month 3 months 12 months
open 27(-8) 64(-10) 65(-11) 68(-10)
reviews 1128(48) 3958(76) 10751(-18) 38372(142)
merged 36(11) 119(15) 332(-41) 885(22)
abandoned 11(4) 44(6) 139(-7) 544(8)
own commits 37(6) 158(4) 434(-37) 1091(12)
review commits 0(0) 0(0) 0(0) 0(0)
+ easyHack statistics:
needsDevEval 8(8) needsUXEval 2(2) cleanup_comments 219(219)
total 263(263) assigned 22(22) open 222(222)
+ top 10 contributors:
LibreOfficiant made 36 patches in 1 month, and 118 patches in 1 year
Pranam Lashkari made 24 patches in 1 month, and 59 patches in 1 year
Johnny_M made 16 patches in 1 month, and 22 patches in 1 year
Steve Fanning made 14 patches in 1 month, and 26 patches in 1 year
Weblate made 8 patches in 1 month, and 49 patches in 1 year
Szabolcs Tóth (NISZ) made 5 patches in 1 month, and 22 patches in 1 year
Attila Bakos made 4 patches in 1 month, and 11 patches in 1 year
Gökay ŞATIR made 4 patches in 1 month, and 6 patches in 1 year
Balázs regényi made 4 patches in 1 month, and 4 patches in 1 year
Marco A.G.Pinto made 3 patches in 1 month, and 17 patches in 1 year
+ top 10 reviewers:
Michael Stahl made 144 review comments in 1 month, and 1502 in 1 year
Timar, Andras made 142 review comments in 1 month, and 1317 in 1 year
Behrens, Thorsten made 122 review comments in 1 month, and 1248 in 1 year
Nabet, Julien made 80 review comments in 1 month, and 2194 in 1 year
Meeks, Michael made 76 review comments in 1 month, and 910 in 1 year
Adolfo Jayme Barrientos made 76 review comments in 1 month, and 1032 in 1 year
Vajna, Miklos made 72 review comments in 1 month, and 1330 in 1 year
Xisco Faulí made 62 review comments in 1 month, and 872 in 1 year
Németh, László made 58 review comments in 1 month, and 519 in 1 year
Weghorn, Michael made 56 review comments in 1 month, and 356 in 1 year
+ Patches automatically abandoned:
tdf#112620 Make sdi accel, menu, and toolbox config settings functional ( Jim Raykowski )
- https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/65990
tdf#107038 Poco::DateTime replacement with std::chrono ( Shivansh )
- https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/84090
Uppercase typo ( Sophia Schröder )
- https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/88023
Whitespace issue ( Sophia Schröder )
- https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/88024
Improve visiblity and consistency ( Sophia Schröder )
- https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/88031
Visibility and cleanups ( Sophia Schröder )
- https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/88057
tdf#124443 Below methods removed ( Advait Ranade )
- https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/88345
Refactor bookmark export stuff in ww8 ( Björn Michaelsen )
- https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/89109
Move DeleteOutlineSelections to SwContentTree::EditEntry ( Jim Raykowski )
- https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/89289
Reformatting of source files. ( Sophia Schröder )
- https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/89567
+ big CONGRATULATIONS to contributors who have at least 1 merged patch, since last report:
scito
* Commit Access
+ proposal: Pranam Lashkari (Kendy)
+ 50+ commits in online.git, also a few commits in core.git
+ also needed to cherry-pick somebody else’s work
+ has proved to be responsible
=> no objections
AI: + send the new-committer mail (Kendy)
AI: + toggle the button (Cloph)
* Developer Certification (Stephan/Kendy/Thorsten)
+ sleep 20 weeks
+ seeking for a new person as a replacement for Bjoern, who is currently
inactive
* Jenkins / CI update (Christian)
from:Thu Apr 23 13:56:49 2020
master linux rel jobs: 67 ok: 63 ko: 4 fail ratio: 5.97 % break: 3 broken duration: 3.74%
master linux dbg jobs: 61 ok: 57 ko: 3 fail ratio: 4.92 % break: 3 broken duration: 2.55%
master mac rel jobs: 81 ok: 81 ko: 0 fail ratio: 0.00 % break: 0 broken duration: 0.00%
master mac dbg jobs: 83 ok: 83 ko: 0 fail ratio: 0.00 % break: 0 broken duration: 0.00%
master win rel jobs: 111 ok: 111 ko: 0 fail ratio: 0.00 % break: 0 broken duration: 0.00%
master win dbg jobs: 114 ok: 114 ko: 0 fail ratio: 0.00 % break: 0 broken duration: 0.00%
master win64 dbg jobs: 109 ok: 109 ko: 0 fail ratio: 0.00 % break: 0 broken duration: 0.00%
master gerrit lin jobs: 559 ok: 439 ko: 83 fail ratio: 14.85% time for ok: mean: 23 median: 23
master gerrit plg jobs: 515 ok: 359 ko: 83 fail ratio: 16.12% time for ok: mean: 33 median: 29
master gerrit win jobs: 570 ok: 401 ko: 122 fail ratio: 21.40% time for ok: mean: 51 median: 51
master gerrit mac jobs: 551 ok: 458 ko: 50 fail ratio: 9.07% time for ok: mean: 26 median: 21
master gerrit all jobs: 526 ok: 313 ko: 128 fail ratio: 24.33% time for ok: mean: 98 median: 74
+ https://dev-www.libreoffice.org/tmp/gerrit_200430.html
+ tests that failed more than twice in last seven days
3 CppunitTest_sc_subsequent_export_test
3 CppunitTest_smoketest
3 CppunitTest_sw_mailmerge
4 CppunitTest_sc_mathematical_functions_test
4 CppunitTest_sw_ww8export
5 CppunitTest_sw_uiwriter
5 CppunitTest_sw_uwriter
+ for some time, all macOS bots were offline, now fixed
+ callgrind job now fails for 2 weeks (Stephan)
+ think it was a perl → python conversion (Cloph)
+ possibly something (Stephan)
+ nominally Norbert and Markus are the owners
AI: + hope to fix it at some stage (Cloph)
* l10n (Sophie)
+ work as usual
+ Calc formula names how have a test for the translations (tdf#128200)
+ weblate now provides feedback
+ did you see the regex I posted to the bug? (Eike)
+ not yet (Cloph)
+ if there is no translation, then the English one is used
+ that might lead to duplicated function names (Eike)
+ would be good to check with the provided documents
* Graphics architecture (Thorsten)
* https://pad.documentfoundation.org/p/ESC_graphics_architecture
* skia / vulkan: to try it on master (Lubos)
+ metabug: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=129062
+ 8 (+2) open bugs, 51 total (+8)
* Require clang-cl from VS2019 on Windows (Miklos, Lubos)
+ proposed change: https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/93194
+ dev ML discussion: https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice/2020-April/084929.html
+ benefit would be much improved skia/raster rendering performance
+ cost is one more checkbox to tick when installing VS2019
+ next step would be to update the build bots, so the change can go in
AI: + will install clang-cl on the Windows bots (Cloph)
* Use TDF nextcloud/Online instance for ESC too (easier access for non-regular attendees) (Thorsten)
+ Now the agenda is at <https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/apps/files/?dir=/Shared/Common/ESC-minutes>
+ How does it compare to the old instance? (Miklos)
+ 10 seconds to save a document, Guilhem will look at it
+ autocorrect won’t turn URLs into hyperlinks (Heiko)
+ fixed on master (Michael M)
* QA update (Xisco)
+ Please help flesh out the monthly reports:
https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/2qbepFYXXan4ief
+ UNCONFIRMED: 858 (-29)
+ enhancements: 112 (-14)
+ needsUXEval: 15 (+10)
+ haveBackTrace: 1 (+0)
+ needsDevAdvice: 11 (+0)
+ documentation: 19 (+0)
+ android: 5 (+1)
+ iOS: 0 (+0)
+ Online: 16 (+2)
+ Ilmari now helps out with unconfirmed bugs, closed lots of them
+ Most pressing bugs:
New:
None
Old:
+ macOS: Can't Save As after installing language pack on Catalina
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=132025
+ more info here: “Subject: Budget 2020 proposals and macOS Catalina support / onboarding” on the dev list (Heiko)
+ Notarize LibreOffice builds so that it launches without warnings on macOS 10.15 Catalina
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=126409
+ Cloph?
+ Opening ODS file rise Incorrect Format exception. Opened well with OpenOffice 4.1.3
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=116079
+ regression from the fastparser gsoc work from 2016
+ Mohammed is no longer around, Julien is asking for tips
+ Text runs of RTL scripts (e.g. Arabic, Hebrew, Persian) from imported PDF are reversed, PDFIProcessor::mirrorString not behaving
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=104597
+ Thorsten looking at it
+ New high severity bugs of the week:
+ "Find and replace" finds/replaces text deleted with "record/track changes"
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36582
+ not a regression
* QA stats
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
+203 -5 (-236) overall)
many thanks to the top bug squashers:
Buovjaga 58
QA Administrators 21
Justin L 15
Heiko Tietze 11
V Stuart Foote 8
Julien Nabet 7
Dieter 6
Caolán McNamara 5
Luboš Luňák 5
Mike Kaganski 5
+ top 10 bugs reporters:
Telesto 37
NISZ LibreOffice Team 12
Regina Henschel 4
sergio.callegari 4
Aron Budea 3
Gerald Pfeifer 3
Mike Kaganski 3
Rhys Young 3
Jim Raykowski 2
Midon 2
+ top 10 bugs fixers:
McNamara, Caolán 5
Nabet, Julien 5
Luboš Luňák 4
Rizal Muttaqin 4
Justin Luth 3
Tünde Tóth 3
Xisco Faulí 3
*UNKNOWN* 2
Balazs Varga 2
Grandin, Noel 2
+ top 10 bugs confirmers:
Ilmari Lauhakangas 41
Dieter Praas 17
Nabet, Julien 11
Budea, Áron 10
m.a.riosv 7
Heiko Tietze 6
*UNKNOWN* 5
Foote, V Stuart 5
Olivier Hallot 5
Roman Kuznetsov 4
* Highest-Priority bugs (aka "MABs"):
+ http://bit.ly/2lJAAJI
6.0 : 1/52 - 1 % (+0)
5.4 : 2/41 - 4 % (+0)
5.3 : 0/54 - 0 % (+0)
5.2 : 0/43 - 0 % (+0)
5.1 : 1/36 - 2 % (+0)
5.0 : 0/64 - 0 % (+0)
4.4 : 0/76 - 0 % (+0)
4.3 : 2/73 - 2 % (+0)
4.2 : 1/133 - 0 % (+0)
4.1 : 3/85 - 3 % (+0)
4.0 : 3/82 - 3 % (+0)
old : 6/245 - 2 % (+0)
* Bisected bugs open: keyword 'bisected'
+ more accurate - down to a single commit.
+ http://bit.ly/2dyIfDy
+
done by:
barakso.attila 6
Budea, Áron 4
Ilmari Lauhakangas 3
Raal 2
NISZ LibreOffice Team 1
Telesto 1
Xisco Faulí 1
* Bibisected bugs open: keyword 'bibisected'
+ http://bit.ly/2cSCXlS
+
done by:
barakso.attila 6
Budea, Áron 5
Ilmari Lauhakangas 3
Raal 2
NISZ LibreOffice Team 1
Brinzing, Oliver 1
Telesto 1
Xisco Faulí 1
* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
+ 1148(-1) bugs open of 9566(+22) total 2(-1) high prio.
done by:
Budea, Áron 5
Telesto 5
Dieter Praas 2
Ilmari Lauhakangas 2
Heiko Tietze 1
Brinzing, Oliver 1
Henschel, Regina 1
* ~Component count net * high severity regressions
+ http://bit.ly/1HWHb3E
Calc - 1(+0)
LibreOffice - 1(+0)
Writer - 0(-1)
by OS:
All - 1(-1)
Linux - 0(+0)
Mac OS X - 0(+0)
Windows - 1(+0)
* ~Component count net * all regressions
+ http://bit.ly/1BUdI8i
Writer: other - 324(+6)
Calc - 220(+3)
Impress - 132(-1)
LibreOffice - 66(-1)
Writer: docx filter - 58(-1)
Draw - 47(+0)
UI - 41(-3)
Borders - 40(+1)
Crashes - 40(-3)
Writer: perf - 37(+0)
Base - 35(+0)
graphics stack - 29(+0)
Writer: other filter - 27(+0)
Writer: doc filter - 25(-3)
Printing and PDF export - 24(+1)
Chart - 23(+0)
RTL - 22(+0)
filters and storage - 22(+0)
BASIC - 16(-1)
framework - 2(+0)
Installation - 1(+0)
sdk - 1(+0)
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