ESC meeting minutes: 2020-08-06
Miklos Vajna
vmiklos at collabora.com
Thu Aug 6 14:57:42 UTC 2020
* Present:
+ Stephan, Caolan, Michael S, Heiko, Ilmari, Sophie, Cloph, Thorsten, Olivier, Xisco, Miklos, Eike, Kendy, Michael M
* Completed Action Items:
+ investigate the failure of the bug stats fods generator (Xisco)
[ it just started to work magically ]
+ grant tag push permission on gerrit to Aron Budea & Miklos (Cloph)
* Pending Action Items:
+ None
* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
+ 7.0 status: 7.0.0 released yesterday
+ last minute fix for langpack problem on mac:
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=134607
+ problem is not yet understood, but have a workaround
+ 6.4 status: 6.4.6 rc2 is scheduled for this week, tagging later today
+ https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/q/project:core+branch:libreoffice-6-4-6+status:open
+ Remotes
+ Android viewer
+ Online
* Documentation (Olivier)
+ New Help
+ Extended tips (*)
+ Helpcontents2
+ Updates and housekeeping files (ohallot, libeofficiant, Johnny_M)
+ Guides
+ Several books on-going, Most on version 7.0
+ Google Seasons of Doc 2020
+ Awaiting Google announcement
* UX Update (Heiko)
+ Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
250(250) (topicUI) bugs open, 244(244) (needsUXEval) needs to be evaluated by the UXteam
+ Updates:
BZ changes 1 week 1 month 3 months 12 months
added 11(6) 21(6) 41(5) 157(4)
commented 96(17) 335(-8) 952(6) 3599(-42)
removed 0(0) 3(-1) 9(-1) 51(0)
resolved 7(-8) 36(-4) 121(-7) 385(-13)
+ top 10 contributors:
Heiko Tietze made 190 changes in 1 month, and 2113 changes in 1 year
Telesto made 97 changes in 1 month, and 322 changes in 1 year
Timur made 43 changes in 1 month, and 236 changes in 1 year
Xisco Fauli made 38 changes in 1 month, and 565 changes in 1 year
Dieter Praas made 30 changes in 1 month, and 502 changes in 1 year
Foote, V Stuart made 30 changes in 1 month, and 574 changes in 1 year
Nabet, Julien made 17 changes in 1 month, and 82 changes in 1 year
R. Green made 16 changes in 1 month, and 26 changes in 1 year
Cougar Brenneman made 13 changes in 1 month, and 13 changes in 1 year
Kaganski, Mike made 11 changes in 1 month, and 102 changes in 1 year
* 27 New tickets with needsUXEval Jul/23-Aug/05
* Writer: Add prepared models of different Table of Contents (ToC)
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=135388
+ proposal: have a set of predefined settings to pick from
* Add support for "TK" keyword for content writing
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=135433
* Insert image location points to AppData\Roaming\LibreOfficeDev\4\user\
gallery with a fresh profile
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=135474
* Many comments to make the Tabbed interface the default
+ people are not aware of the notebookbar at all
+ like the idea (Thorsten)
+ perhaps enable it for new installs only?
+ good to avoid asking users on first start (Heiko)
+ have many variants, why so many? (Caolan)
+ only 2 serious: tabbed + tabbed compact (Heiko)
+ the others are way different
+ too many interfaces of the notebookbar (Ilmari)
+ could we hide most of that as experimental? (Thorsten)
+ too many choices are not ideal
+ support flipping the default at some stage
+ watch what the competition does
+ more UI: via extensions? (Heiko)
+ prefer to avoid extensions, just pick a single notebookbar (Caolan)
+ would make it clear what to switch to from menus (Miklos)
+ wish: type into an input field, search as you type (Heiko)
AI: make a decision on what notebookbar variant to promote (Heiko)
+ comments please at https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=135501
* Crash testing (Caolan)
+ 8(+6) import failure, 7(+0) export failures
+ 0 coverity issues
+ 12 oss-fuzz issues, 1 crasher fix in gerrit
* Crash Reporting (Xisco)
+ https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/6.3.6.2
+ (+32) 1866 1834 1900 2143 2188 2094 2327 1758 1376 858 668 529 283 0
+ https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/6.4.4.2
+ (-263) 3766 4029 4353 5352 6607 6857 7333 5252 3670 1638 0
+ https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/6.4.5.2
+ (+237) 2552 2315 1761 1162 0
+ https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/7.0.0.3
+ (+788) 788 0
+ this week: it’s a bit early to see results from 7.0
+ the crash reports are not resolved yet
* GSoC 2020 (Thorsten/Heiko)
+ Projects announced: https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2020/05/05/9769/
+ June 1, 2020 - August 24, 2020: Students work on their projects
+ 6 projects accepted
+ the game is on, students are reporting more or less regularly
+ remind your students if it's not happening
+ August 31, 2020 - September 7, 2020: Mentors Submit Final Evaluations
+ saw the styles inspector, pushing some translations, that may be technical names (Olivier)
+ are these really to be translated?
+ yes, intentional (Heiko)
+ https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/99983
+ open question, though
+ Olivier will talk to the mentors
+ style editor already have a presentation string (Miklos)
+ things are on track (Thorsten)
* Mentoring/easyhack update
committer... 1 week 1 month 3 months 12 months
open 93(-60) 198(-13) 202(-10) 210(-10)
reviews 526(-190) 1870(-2) 4776(70) 20215(-423)
merged 449(-19) 1912(-193) 5581(9) 19527(-494)
abandoned 20(-8) 86(5) 260(-2) 1009(-39)
own commits 298(30) 1253(-160) 3813(-28) 15848(-150)
review commits 69(-39) 322(-31) 1166(5) 4580(-41)
contributor... 1 week 1 month 3 months 12 months
open 39(-7) 99(21) 99(20) 102(21)
reviews 1296(-252) 5352(-529) 14345(280) 44185(389)
merged 22(-29) 140(-10) 509(74) 1656(572)
abandoned 3(-4) 41(-8) 139(6) 539(9)
own commits 26(-46) 174(-31) 629(13) 1495(66)
review commits 0(0) 0(0) 0(0) 0(0)
+ easyHack statistics:
needsDevEval 10(10) needsUXEval 2(2) cleanup_comments 242(242)
total 292(292) assigned 12(12) open 258(258)
+ top 10 contributors:
Johnny_M made 42 patches in 1 month, and 234 patches in 1 year
Shivam, Kumar Singh made 16 patches in 1 month, and 30 patches in 1 year
LibreOfficiant made 14 patches in 1 month, and 148 patches in 1 year
Gökay ŞATIR made 11 patches in 1 month, and 34 patches in 1 year
Aditya Sahu made 6 patches in 1 month, and 17 patches in 1 year
Yusuf Keten made 6 patches in 1 month, and 23 patches in 1 year
Weblate made 5 patches in 1 month, and 61 patches in 1 year
Attila Bakos made 4 patches in 1 month, and 22 patches in 1 year
nd101 made 3 patches in 1 month, and 10 patches in 1 year
srijan bhatia made 3 patches in 1 month, and 9 patches in 1 year
+ top 10 reviewers:
Adolfo Jayme Barrientos made 176 review comments in 1 month, and 1298 in 1 year
Behrens, Thorsten made 166 review comments in 1 month, and 1380 in 1 year
Timar, Andras made 146 review comments in 1 month, and 1433 in 1 year
Xisco Fauli made 118 review comments in 1 month, and 864 in 1 year
Kaganski, Mike made 108 review comments in 1 month, and 860 in 1 year
Michael Stahl made 106 review comments in 1 month, and 1274 in 1 year
Németh, László made 96 review comments in 1 month, and 595 in 1 year
McNamara, Caolán made 84 review comments in 1 month, and 812 in 1 year
Vajna, Miklos made 72 review comments in 1 month, and 1040 in 1 year
Olivier Hallot made 72 review comments in 1 month, and 656 in 1 year
+ Patches automatically abandoned:
WIP: tdf#127471: avoid font stretching for metafiles on other platform ( Vasily Melenchuk )
- https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/90373
+ big CONGRATULATIONS to contributors who have at least 1 merged patch, since last report:
Mikaël Urankar (FreeBSD)
* Commit Access
+ None
+ Related: do people find it useful to auto-add reviewers on gerrit? (Kendy)
+ noticed: when cherry-picking commits to a vendor branch
+ people are auto-added as reviewers for those changes, but people are probaly not interested
+ is it possible to avoid this?
+ not sure if it’s configurable (Cloph)
+ probably not configurable for cherry-picks
+ could script removing of not wanted reviewer on a branch (Thorsten)
* Developer Certification (Stephan/Kendy/Thorsten)
+ sleep 8 weeks
+ seeking for a new person as a replacement for Bjoern, who is currently
inactive
* Jenkins / CI update (Christian)
from:Thu Jul 30 13:52:43 2020
master linux rel jobs: 60 ok: 60 ko: 0 fail ratio: 0.00 % break: 0 broken duration: 0.00%
master linux dbg jobs: 53 ok: 49 ko: 4 fail ratio: 7.55 % break: 3 broken duration:10.47%
master mac rel jobs: 0 ok: 0 ko: 0 fail ratio: 0.00 % break: 0 broken duration: 0.00%
master mac dbg jobs: 0 ok: 0 ko: 0 fail ratio: 0.00 % break: 0 broken duration: 0.00%
master win rel jobs: 74 ok: 74 ko: 0 fail ratio: 0.00 % break: 0 broken duration: 0.00%
master win dbg jobs: 69 ok: 69 ko: 0 fail ratio: 0.00 % break: 0 broken duration: 0.00%
master win64 dbg jobs: 72 ok: 25 ko: 47 fail ratio: 65.28 % break: 3 broken duration:73.20%
master gerrit lin jobs: 466 ok: 390 ko: 49 fail ratio: 10.52% time for ok: mean: 21 median: 22
master gerrit plg jobs: 411 ok: 299 ko: 85 fail ratio: 20.68% time for ok: mean: 30 median: 29
master gerrit win jobs: 521 ok: 334 ko: 144 fail ratio: 27.64% time for ok: mean: 54 median: 54
master gerrit mac jobs: 467 ok: 378 ko: 47 fail ratio: 10.06% time for ok: mean: 24 median: 23
master gerrit all jobs: 461 ok: 255 ko: 159 fail ratio: 34.49% time for ok: mean: 90 median: 73
+ https://dev-www.libreoffice.org/tmp/gerrit_200806.html
+ tests that failed more than twice in last seven days:
3 Killed by the kill-wrapper gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
3 CppunitTest_sc_subsequent_export_test gerrit_windows
3 CppunitTest_sw_mailmerge gerrit_windows
6 CppunitTest_sw_ww8export gerrit_windows
8 CppunitTest_sw_odfexport gerrit_windows
9 CppunitTest_sw_ww8export3 gerrit_windows
12 CppunitTest_sw_uiwriter gerrit_windows
14 CppunitTest_sw_ww8export2 gerrit_windows
+ more or less same as last week
+ lot of Windows-specific failures, not great
+ especially sw_ww8export2 are painful
+ looks like a crash-on-shutdown: it fails after printing “OK(…)” (Michael S)
+ perhaps could configure the crashreporter to report such failures (Stephan)
+ may be a mis-match: people build
* l10n (Sophie)
+ work is ongoing
+ reporting issues following comments from translators in weblate
* Graphics architecture (Thorsten)
* https://pad.documentfoundation.org/p/ESC_graphics_architecture
* skia / vulkan: try it on master (Lubos)
+ metabug: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=129062
+ 1 (+4) open bugs, 87 total (+4)
* LibreOffice Conference will be Online (Sophie)
+ late proposals are still possible, if really wanted
* QA update (Xisco)
+ Please help flesh out the monthly reports:
https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/2qbepFYXXan4ief
+ UNCONFIRMED: 1002 (+7)
+ enhancements: 109 (-6)
+ needsUXEval: 7 (+3)
+ haveBackTrace: 1 (+0)
+ needsDevAdvice: 13 (+0)
+ documentation: 11 (-1)
+ android: 6 (+1)
+ iOS: 0 (+0)
+ Online: 10 (-2)
+ Most pressing bugs:
New:
+ LO7RC1 - LANGPACK macOS - many versions fail to recognize LibreOffice7 installation as valid on Catalina
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=134607
Old:
+ macOS: Can't Save As after installing language pack on Catalina
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=132025
+ more info here: “Subject: Budget 2020 proposals and macOS
Catalina
support / onboarding” on the dev list (Heiko)
+ Text runs of RTL scripts (e.g. Arabic, Hebrew, Persian) from
imported
PDF are reversed, PDFIProcessor::mirrorString not behaving
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=104597
+ Thorsten looking at it
+ old problem, but many duplicates
Fixed:
+ Table settings and borders are not saved if checked "Embed fonts" and "Only embed fonts that are used"
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=124470
+ Thanks to Mike Kaganski
+ New high severity bugs of the week:
+ Print selection doesn't print selection but whole page
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=135082
+ Srijan has a patch
+ Option to auto-update Table of Contents, or question offered to do so at printing, is deable
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=44448
+ enhancement
+ how an enhancement can be high severity? (Michael S)
+ severity vs priority (Ilmari)
+ Writer: Index entry in ToC should be clickable
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=65463
+ enhancement
* corrupted user profile: how to handle that? (Heiko)
+ interesting if we have steps wrt how to corrupt it (Xisco)
+ otherwise: clean the profile via safe mode
* restore quickstarter on linux (Stephan)
+ there was a gerrit change for it by someone
+ was painful: quickstarter on the desktop (Thorsten)
+ but you can also use this on servers by throwing a veto exception on shutdown, that can be useful
+ be careful with removing even that mode
+ https://design.blog.documentfoundation.org/2017/06/28/results-survey-libreoffice-features/ (Heiko)
+ least used feature
* QA stats
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
+202 +13 (-142) overall)
many thanks to the top bug squashers:
Timur 25
Xisco Faulí 14
Julien Nabet 9
Telesto 9
Dieter 8
Caolán McNamara 7
Heiko Tietze 7
Michael Stahl (CIB) 6
Mike Kaganski 6
QA Administrators 6
+ top 10 bugs reporters:
Telesto 38
Heiko Tietze 11
R. Green 7
Mike Kaganski 4
Xisco Faulí 4
Karl-Heinz Arkenau 3
WhitelineNotConeccted 3
Dieter 2
Florian 2
Justin L 2
+ top 10 bugs fixers:
McNamara, Caolán 9
Michael Stahl 5
Justin Luth 3
Budea, Áron 2
Heiko Tietze 2
Xisco Fauli 2
*UNKNOWN* 1
Adam Mizerski 1
Adolfo Jayme Barrientos 1
David 1
+ top 10 bugs confirmers:
Xisco Fauli 57
Heiko Tietze 13
Dieter Praas 12
Nabet, Julien 8
Timur 8
Telesto 6
Budea, Áron 5
Roman Kuznetsov 5
Amina Zahid 4
Tomoyuki Kubota 3
* Highest-Priority bugs (aka "MABs"):
+ http://bit.ly/2lJAAJI
6.0 : 1/52 - 1 % (+0)
5.4 : 0/41 - 0 % (+0)
5.3 : 0/54 - 0 % (+0)
5.2 : 0/43 - 0 % (+0)
5.1 : 1/36 - 2 % (+0)
5.0 : 0/64 - 0 % (+0)
4.4 : 0/76 - 0 % (+0)
4.3 : 2/73 - 2 % (+0)
4.2 : 1/133 - 0 % (+0)
4.1 : 3/85 - 3 % (+0)
4.0 : 4/83 - 4 % (+0)
old : 6/247 - 2 % (+0)
* Bisected bugs open: keyword 'bisected'
+ more accurate - down to a single commit.
+ http://bit.ly/2dyIfDy
+ 835/4575 839/4559 822/4529 815/4507 805/4474 797/4452 788/4429
done by:
Xisco Fauli 9
Terrence Enger 3
Budea, Áron 2
Ilmari Lauhakangas 1
Justin Luth 1
* Bibisected bugs open: keyword 'bibisected'
+ http://bit.ly/2cSCXlS
+ 1023/5464 1027/5448 1012/5417 1005/5393 997/5359 990/5335 977/5308
done by:
Xisco Fauli 10
Terrence Enger 3
Budea, Áron 2
Ilmari Lauhakangas 1
Justin Luth 1
* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
+ 1273(+4) bugs open of 10060(+34) total 17(+0) high prio.
done by:
Telesto 17
Xisco Fauli 9
Budea, Áron 2
Terrence Enger 2
Timur 1
Ilmari Lauhakangas 1
Weghorn, Michael 1
* ~Component count net * high severity regressions
+ http://bit.ly/1HWHb3E
Writer - 11(+0)
Calc - 3(+0)
Impress - 2(+0)
LibreOffice - 1(+0)
by OS:
All - 13(-1)
Linux - 2(+1)
Mac OS X - 0(+0)
Windows - 2(+0)
* ~Component count net * all regressions
+ http://bit.ly/1BUdI8i
Writer: other - 385(-1)
Calc - 228(+1)
Impress - 146(+1)
Crashes - 60(-3)
LibreOffice - 58(+0)
Writer: docx filter - 56(+1)
Draw - 47(+1)
Borders - 43(+0)
UI - 42(-1)
Writer: perf - 42(+2)
Base - 30(+0)
Writer: other filter - 29(+1)
Writer: doc filter - 27(+0)
graphics stack - 26(+0)
Printing and PDF export - 24(+1)
RTL - 23(+1)
Chart - 20(+0)
filters and storage - 20(+0)
BASIC - 16(+0)
framework - 2(+0)
Formula Editor - 1(+0)
Installation - 1(+0)
sdk - 1(+0)
Linguistic - 0(-1)
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