Minutes from the UX/design meeting 2020-Jul-16

Heiko Tietze heiko.tietze at documentfoundation.org
Thu Jul 16 13:42:39 UTC 2020

Present: Rizal, Patrick, Muhammad, Sascha, Heiko
Comments from: Csongor, Regina, Maxim


 * UI: Paper tray settings in Page setup seems wrong
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=134642
   + not using a printer but the option was likely there since OOo (Heiko)
   + help gives example with first page on paper with companies logo
   + another example: glossy paper for pictures
   + admitted that it's weird, eg document is saved and loaded somehwere else
   + nice to have if page style defines a virtual tray which is assigned to the
     printer tray at the printer dialog; different ticket though
   => NAB

 * Entering a table with too many columns causing Writer to lock up
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=134779
   + limit the number of columns (and rows) to 99 (or 255)
   + WPS limits to 63 (Patrick)
   + it's still possible to add rows/columns before/after (Heiko)
   + just a performance issue, limitations are bad (Csongor)
   + show a warning per coloring the spin edit or per confirmation box
   => go with the colored warning

 * EDITING: Support fill character in a hanging indent of a paragraph
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128986
   + use case valid but implementation has it's risk (Regina)
   + don't see the use case; indentation, whether hanging or not,
     is per se white-space (Heiko)
   + w/o clear use case it's hard to decide (Patrick)
   => remove flag and suggest to resolve WF

 * IMPRESS: two Align submenus under Format menu (one for text, other for
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=134739
   + some options (Maxim)
     a) combined UNO command
       + a lot of drawbacks
     b) dedicated Shapes root menu
       + spoils the menu structure (maybe we move Slide Show content into Slide)
       + do we have enough content for this menu?
       + a shape menu would be overkill for Impress. No need for  (Rizal)
     c) rename Text Align, Shape Align
       + sounds wrong with the other items next to it
       + prefer this (Rizal, Patrick)
       + "Object Alignment"
       + would rename alignment for text (Patrick)
   + d) Remove one of the commands from the menu (object alignment) (Patrick)
       + very handy (Heiko)
   + e) Rename Alignment for one (Text -> Justification) (Heiko)
       + would affect other modules too (Patrick)
       + translates possibly to the same word (Heiko)
   + WPS has Format > Arrange > Align (objects) (Patrick)
     f) + move Align underneath Arrange
     + could work since we have toolbar widgets to align objects
     + prefer this (Sascha)
   => rename (object) alignment to "Object alignment" or move the menu
     + Commented after meeting on BZ (Patrick)

 * UI: Printer settings hidden under more
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=134640
   + expand 'more' sections depending on screen real estate (low hanging fruit)
   + redesign dialog, see comment 13 & 14
     + horizontal aligned radio buttons scale badly with l10n
   + duplex is saving the environment and we should encourage using it (Patrick)
   => input welcome, keep it open

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