ESC meeting minutes: 2020-10-22
Miklos Vajna
vmiklos at collabora.com
Thu Oct 22 14:54:21 UTC 2020
* Present:
+ Stephan, Michael W, Caolan, Cloph, Heiko, Xisco, Olivier, Miklos, Sophie, Thorsten, Michael M, Michael S, Gabriel
* Completed Action Items:
+ Look at why some uitests are not failing but timing out e.g. at https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/103993 (Stephan)
+ conclusion: python code checks for something while the dialog is open, and we don’t close the dialog, so we hang → would need to write the tests to first close the dialogs and then assert
+ auto-closing dialogs are not a good way, would leak to soffice processes
* Pending Action Items:
+ None
* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
+ 7.0 status: 7.0.3 rc1 tagged + branches yesterday
+ 6.4 status: 6.4.7 announced today
+ 7.1 status: 7.1 alpha1 from master, to be tagged tomorrow
+ feature freeze: week 47 (2020-11-16)
+ Remotes
+ Android viewer
+ heads-up for distro branches: if you use submodules, then make sure that .gitmodules uses relative paths
* Would it be possible to release 7.0.3 RC1 as final next week? (Xisco)
- Fixes a couple of critical issues
- https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=133771 encryption
+ 12 duplicates
- https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=137248 Calc recalc
+ 15 duplicates
+ theoretically possible, but nobody tested RC1 so far (Cloph)
+ otherwise the RC2 would be in 3 weeks from now, right? (Xisco)
+ in 2 weeks
+ still that fresh version, not noticed with 7.0.x so far (Thorsten)
+ trying to not avoid time-based releases
=> let’s ship earlier in this special case (all)
* Documentation (Olivier)
+ New Help
+ No news
+ Helpcontent2
+ Updates and fixes (S. Chaiklin, Fitoshido, A. Gemini)
+ Google seasons of Doc
+ Progressing
+ Guides
+ Community actively working on 7.0 releases.
+ Published Math Guide 7.0
+ Collabora Online split, was that discussed in the doc community? (Thorsten)
+ not discussed (Olivier)
* UX Update (Heiko)
+ Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
246(246) (topicUI) bugs open, 258(258) (needsUXEval) needs to be evaluated by the UXteam
+ Updates:
BZ changes 1 week 1 month 3 months 12 months
added 11(3) 23(-2) 55(0) 163(1)
commented 94(9) 394(-38) 1056(-14) 3852(-17)
removed 0(-2) 2(-4) 7(-3) 53(-2)
resolved 13(4) 62(-7) 131(-1) 433(6)
+ top 10 contributors:
Heiko Tietze made 240 changes in 1 month, and 2234 changes in 1 year
Foote, V Stuart made 78 changes in 1 month, and 622 changes in 1 year
Kainz, Andreas made 66 changes in 1 month, and 488 changes in 1 year
Telesto made 63 changes in 1 month, and 554 changes in 1 year
Seth Chaiklin made 46 changes in 1 month, and 196 changes in 1 year
Dieter Praas made 38 changes in 1 month, and 491 changes in 1 year
Roman Kuznetsov made 34 changes in 1 month, and 266 changes in 1 year
Kaganski, Mike made 30 changes in 1 month, and 132 changes in 1 year
BogdanB made 25 changes in 1 month, and 182 changes in 1 year
Thomas Lendo made 22 changes in 1 month, and 134 changes in 1 year
+ 23 new tickets with needsUXEval Oct/08-23
* Give user specific warning when saving a spreadsheet with
> 65536 rows as XLS
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=137327
+ NEW
+ not warning when converting from csv to xls in headless mode
+ on the UI: CSV save gives a warning, but only on first save
* UI: Discourage usage of the to page anchor by hiding it from
toolbar/context menu
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=135836
+ FIXED and .uno:SetAnchorToPage removed from menus
+ still there, but the UI/menu hides it
* Add option to disable splash screen
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=137581
+ RESOLVED/WF
+ not true that all apps have no splash screen
+ hurts branding
* Many places have tight integration of extensions now
+ still not finished tough (tdf#137470)
* Crash testing (Caolan)
+ 2(-6) import failure, 1(+0) export failures
+ 1 coverity issue
+ 7 ossfuzz issues (all timeouts)
+ bring the timeout problems to public TDF bugzilla?
+ see no issues with that (all)
* Crash Reporting (Xisco)
+ https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/6.4.5.2
+ (-36) 1474 1510 1604 1618 1744 1814 2208 2552 2315 1761 1162 0
+ https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/6.4.6.2
+ (+214) 2000 1778 1564 1306 1053 874 0
+ https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/7.0.0.3
+ (-453) 3314 3767 3952 4171 5084 6489 3840 788 0
+ https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/7.0.1.2
+ (-1629) 4969 6598 4561 3223 1986 0
+ https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/7.0.2.2
+ (+3457) 3457 0
+ 7.0.2.2 have no symbols yet so far
* Mentoring/easyhack update
committer... 1 week 1 month 3 months 12 months
open 65(0) 118(0) 119(-1) 128(-1)
reviews 354(66) 1482(-28) 4364(-42) 18779(-220)
merged 273(102) 1307(-155) 4599(-75) 19460(-93)
abandoned 18(-9) 103(-1) 252(0) 1058(-7)
own commits 200(56) 998(-124) 3430(-56) 15546(-216)
review commits 49(15) 273(-37) 1096(-22) 4688(-43)
contributor... 1 week 1 month 3 months 12 months
open 24(-12) 71(4) 71(3) 73(3)
reviews 740(96) 3290(-360) 11132(-292) 45015(-156)
merged 21(3) 96(1) 367(-4) 1650(4)
abandoned 4(-3) 17(-6) 81(-13) 563(1)
own commits 22(6) 104(1) 448(-17) 1728(13)
review commits 0(0) 0(0) 0(0) 0(0)
+ easyHack statistics:
needsDevEval 9(9) needsUXEval 2(2) cleanup_comments 249(249)
total 295(295) assigned 14(14) open 259(259)
+ top 10 contributors:
Johnny_M made 15 patches in 1 month, and 307 patches in 1 year
Attila Szűcs made 8 patches in 1 month, and 19 patches in 1 year
Gleb Popov made 7 patches in 1 month, and 7 patches in 1 year
Alain Romedenne made 6 patches in 1 month, and 147 patches in 1 year
Weblate made 6 patches in 1 month, and 75 patches in 1 year
Regényi Balázs made 6 patches in 1 month, and 9 patches in 1 year
Nagy Tibor made 4 patches in 1 month, and 22 patches in 1 year
Attila Bakos made 4 patches in 1 month, and 34 patches in 1 year
Ayhan Yalçınsoy made 4 patches in 1 month, and 23 patches in 1 year
Dr. David Alan Gilbert made 4 patches in 1 month, and 6 patches in 1 year
+ top 10 reviewers:
Nabet, Julien made 134 review comments in 1 month, and 1424 in 1 year
Timar, Andras made 134 review comments in 1 month, and 1478 in 1 year
McNamara, Caolán made 110 review comments in 1 month, and 824 in 1 year
Michael Stahl made 100 review comments in 1 month, and 1116 in 1 year
Behrens, Thorsten made 98 review comments in 1 month, and 1344 in 1 year
Adolfo Jayme Barrientos made 98 review comments in 1 month, and 1282 in 1 year
Németh, László made 94 review comments in 1 month, and 666 in 1 year
Holešovský, Jan made 56 review comments in 1 month, and 557 in 1 year
Xisco Fauli made 56 review comments in 1 month, and 808 in 1 year
Olivier Hallot made 52 review comments in 1 month, and 766 in 1 year
+ Patches automatically abandoned:
tdf#84502 Accelerators for sidebar decks ( Jim Raykowski )
- https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/100148
+ big CONGRATULATIONS to contributors who have at least 1 merged patch, since last report:
Mariam Fahmy
Platon Pronko
Leo Wang
* Commit Access
+ None
* Developer Certification (Stephan/Kendy/Thorsten)
+ sleep -2 weeks
+ seeking for a new person as a replacement for Bjoern, who is currently in + reach out to NISZ? (Michael M)
AI: + reach out to Laszlo (Miklos)
+ now is the time to start building a new proposal (Thorsten)
* Jenkins / CI update (Cloph)
from:Thu Oct 15 13:46:13 2020
master linux rel jobs: 62 ok: 62 ko: 0 fail ratio: 0.00 % break: 0 broken duration: 0.00%
master linux dbg jobs: 58 ok: 53 ko: 5 fail ratio: 8.62 % break: 3 broken duration:15.84%
master mac rel jobs: 97 ok: 94 ko: 3 fail ratio: 3.09 % break: 1 broken duration: 1.01%
master mac dbg jobs: 96 ok: 95 ko: 1 fail ratio: 1.04 % break: 1 broken duration: 3.04%
master win rel jobs: 78 ok: 78 ko: 0 fail ratio: 0.00 % break: 0 broken duration: 0.00%
master win dbg jobs: 78 ok: 78 ko: 0 fail ratio: 0.00 % break: 0 broken duration: 0.00%
master win64 dbg jobs: 77 ok: 77 ko: 0 fail ratio: 0.00 % break: 0 broken duration: 0.00%
master gerrit lin jobs: 512 ok: 401 ko: 88 fail ratio: 17.19% time for ok: mean: 23 median: 23
master gerrit plg jobs: 490 ok: 324 ko: 128 fail ratio: 26.12% time for ok: mean: 32 median: 30
master gerrit win jobs: 528 ok: 373 ko: 98 fail ratio: 18.56% time for ok: mean: 64 median: 57
master gerrit mac jobs: 529 ok: 380 ko: 117 fail ratio: 22.12% time for ok: mean: 31 median: 29
master gerrit all jobs: 530 ok: 231 ko: 221 fail ratio: 41.70% time for ok: mean: 142 median: 127
+ https://dev-www.libreoffice.org/tmp/gerrit_201022.html
+ tests that failed more than twice in last seven days:
3 CppunitTest_sc_subsequent_export_test gerrit_windows
3 CppunitTest_sw_odfexport gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
4 CppunitTest_sw_odfexport gerrit_windows
4 CppunitTest_sw_uiwriter gerrit_windows
4 CppunitTest_vcl_backend_test gerrit_mac
5 Killed by the kill-wrapper gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
7 CppunitTest_xmlsecurity_signing gerrit_windows
8 CppunitTest_dbaccess_tdf119625 gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
9 CppunitTest_dbaccess_hsql_binary_import gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
22 CppunitTest_vcl_filters_test gerrit_mac
23 CppunitTest_vcl_bitmap_render_test gerrit_mac
+ mac failures: "tdf#137468: Use the colour space of the main display" (reverted)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=137468
Higher failure rate:
- mac failures: poor change passed Jenkins once, but then failed regularly
- depends on monitor settings
- Android builders: machine had not enough RAM → fixed
* l10n (Sophie)
+ working is ongoing
+ soon have weblate integrated to the dashboard
+ Collabora Online move – not discussed yet, waiting for the board
* discuss – ESC proposal to move on with Online (or not) (Thorsten)
+ reason to bring this up again: ESC members can provide their opinion
+ heard repeatadly: people have no firm opinion
+ largely: 3 options
1) keep everything as-is
2) just shut it down
3) half-way house: mirroring the github repo under the TDF github org
+ personally like a clean cut, prefer to let the board/community to decide (Heiko)
+ LO Online code & docs are an asset of the foundation (Olivier)
+ prefer 1) and then 3)
+ unfortunate for it to stay in a limbo permanently (Caolan)
+ re-direct it to where development is until someone shows up
to do something there.
+ delivering LibreOffice on tablets / phones (Sophie)
+ are part of our mission, should stay.
+ don’t mind in gerrit or a fork on github (Christian)
+ wouldn’t completely shut it down
* Graphics architecture (Thorsten)
* https://pad.documentfoundation.org/p/ESC_graphics_architecture
* skia / vulkan metabug: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=129062
+ 20 (+4) open bugs, 129 total (+5)
* QA update (Xisco)
+ Please help flesh out the monthly reports:
https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/2qbepFYXXan4ief
+ UNCONFIRMED: 1301 (+5)
+ enhancements: 132 (-2)
+ needsUXEval: 7 (+2)
+ haveBackTrace: 2 (+1)
+ needsDevAdvice: 15 (+0)
+ documentation: 16 (+1)
+ android: 5 (+0)
+ iOS: 0 (+0)
+ Online: 21 (+0)
+ Most pressing bugs:
New:
None
Old:
+ PDF export: LibreOffice 6.3 option buttons in forms not working in Adobe Reader (OK in other readers)
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=127217
+ Thorsten ?
+ CRASH: Chart: Changing properties in different objects
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=133630
+ Muhammet ?
+ macOS: Can't Save As after installing language pack on Catalina
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=132025
+ more info here: “Subject: Budget 2020 proposals and macOS
Catalina
support / onboarding” on the dev list (Heiko)
+ Text runs of RTL scripts (e.g. Arabic, Hebrew, Persian) from
imported
PDF are reversed, PDFIProcessor::mirrorString not behaving
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=104597
+ Thorsten looking at it
+ old problem, but many duplicates
Fixed:
+ When saving an encrypted document, unchecking 'Save with password' has no effect, encryption is kept
+ Thanks to Vasily
+ New high severity bugs of the week:
+ Give user specific warning when saving a spreadsheet with > 65536 rows as XLS
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=137327
+ not a regression?
* QA stats
+ bug-stats charts end with 2020-08-13, could the script be updated to include the recent past? (Miklos)
+ AI: will look at it (Xisco)
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
+174 -11 (-162) overall)
many thanks to the top bug squashers:
QA Administrators 16
Heiko Tietze 15
Aron Budea 12
Mike Kaganski 12
Timur 12
Caolán McNamara 10
Buovjaga 9
sdc.blanco 6
Michael Stahl (CIB) 5
Telesto 4
+ top 10 bugs reporters:
Telesto 16
NISZ LibreOffice Team 12
Heiko Tietze 6
Aron Budea 4
Rizal Muttaqin 4
sdc.blanco 4
Xisco Faulí 3
juergenkohler23 3
ASHIK ACHARYA 2
Leroy 2
+ top 10 bugs fixers:
McNamara, Caolán 9
Seth Chaiklin 6
Budea, Áron 5
Heiko Tietze 5
Michael Stahl 5
Németh, László 3
Glogowski, Jan-Marek 2
Kevin Suo 2
Rathke, Eike 2
Timur 2
+ top 10 bugs confirmers:
Ilmari Lauhakangas 34
Heiko Tietze 10
Dieter Praas 9
Timur 8
*UNKNOWN* 7
BogdanB 6
Kaganski, Mike 6
Foote, V Stuart 5
Nabet, Julien 5
Telesto 5
* Highest-Priority bugs (aka "MABs"):
+ http://bit.ly/2lJAAJI
6.0 : 1/52 - 1 % (+0)
5.4 : 0/41 - 0 % (+0)
5.3 : 0/54 - 0 % (+0)
5.2 : 0/43 - 0 % (+0)
5.1 : 1/36 - 2 % (+0)
5.0 : 0/64 - 0 % (+0)
4.4 : 0/76 - 0 % (+0)
4.3 : 2/73 - 2 % (+0)
4.2 : 2/134 - 1 % (+1)
4.1 : 3/85 - 3 % (+0)
4.0 : 4/83 - 4 % (+0)
old : 6/247 - 2 % (+0)
* Bisected bugs open: keyword 'bisected'
+ more accurate - down to a single commit.
+ http://bit.ly/2dyIfDy
+ 891/4819 892/4798 883/4780 881/4768 874/4746 880/4729 862/4687
done by:
Budea, Áron 5
Telesto 4
Xisco Fauli 4
Timur 2
Ilmari Lauhakangas 1
NISZ LibreOffice Team 1
Kaganski, Mike 1
* Bibisected bugs open: keyword 'bibisected'
+ http://bit.ly/2cSCXlS
+ 1070/5717 1070/5692 1057/5667 1057/5654 1049/5632 1055/5615 1046/5583
done by:
Budea, Áron 5
Telesto 4
Xisco Fauli 4
Timur 2
BogdanB 1
Glogowski, Jan-Marek 1
Ilmari Lauhakangas 1
Justin Luth 1
NISZ LibreOffice Team 1
Kaganski, Mike 1
* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
+ 1335(-4) bugs open of 10363(+20) total 13(-3) high prio.
done by:
Telesto 7
Budea, Áron 6
Ilmari Lauhakangas 3
BogdanB 1
Timur 1
Justin Luth 1
NISZ LibreOffice Team 1
Kaganski, Mike 1
Xisco Fauli 1
* ~Component count net * high severity regressions
+ http://bit.ly/1HWHb3E
Writer - 7(-2)
Calc - 2(-1)
Impress - 2(+0)
Chart - 1(+0)
LibreOffice - 1(+0)
by OS:
All - 11(-3)
Linux - 1(+0)
Mac OS X - 0(+0)
Windows - 1(+0)
* ~Component count net * all regressions
+ http://bit.ly/1BUdI8i
Writer: other - 419(-6)
Calc - 229(+0)
Impress - 154(+0)
Writer: docx filter - 57(+2)
LibreOffice - 56(+0)
Crashes - 54(-2)
Draw - 47(-1)
Borders - 44(+0)
UI - 43(+1)
Writer: perf - 42(+0)
Base - 35(+0)
Writer: other filter - 30(+0)
Writer: doc filter - 28(+0)
graphics stack - 25(+1)
Chart - 23(+0)
RTL - 23(+0)
Printing and PDF export - 21(-1)
filters and storage - 19(+0)
BASIC - 15(+1)
framework - 2(+0)
Formula Editor - 1(+0)
Installation - 1(+0)
sdk - 1(+0)
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