Minutes from the UX/design meeting 2020-Sep-16
Heiko Tietze
heiko.tietze at documentfoundation.org
Wed Sep 16 19:53:21 UTC 2020
Present: Stuart, Sascha, Heiko
Comments: Csongor
Tickets/Topic
* 2 columns default spacing shouldn't be 0 cm
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=135960
+ agree with 0.5cm (Heiko, Stuart)
+ implementation mistake, presets in the dialog work (but not the spinner
neither
the sidebar)
=> fix it
* UI Calc Format – Spacing submenu contains unusable, greyed out items
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136071
+ don't touch the main menu (Roman)
+ remove line spacing completely from Calc's main menu (Heiko, Sascha, Stuart)
+ indent is available in the sidebar and under Format > Cells: Alignment
+ paragraph settings are available via main menu Format > Paragraph,
context menu and sidebar
+ commands are placed at too high a level (Gabor)
+ a) move to Format - Object - Spacing
+ b) keep Format - Spacing for Increase/Decrease Indent or
move these two to Format - Text
=> let's get rid of it
* Sidebar: Fontwork sidebar is missing
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136140
+ not frequently used, so -1 (Heiko, Stuart)
+ see also tdf#136145 Sidebar: 3d settings sidebar, likewise -1 (Stuart)
+ in some UI modes the fontwork toolbar doesn't pop-up automatically
and it's the only way to access some properties
+ no feedback from the sidebar even in standard UI mode
+ we need better guidelines for the sidebar (Stuart)
+ LibreOffice is not GIMP where sidebars make sense but we do not have a clear
use case (Sascha)
+ same applies to 3D settings (Stuart, Sascha)
=> WF
* Sidebar: Move List content back to the Paragraph section in Draw/Impress
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136075
+ lists are prime in presentations much more than in text processing (Stuart)
+ in Impress lists are not part of the PS but in Writer
+ access to list properties per content panel icon would be possible
anymore if we move this into paragraph (Heiko)
+ keep separate in Impress- and move on Writer too?
+ for sake of consistency, yes; but it's correct today
+ afraid of people who want to contextually hide the list deck (Heiko)
+ sympathizing with the request; only way to make it consistent
is to have an extra content panel for lists in Writer too (Sascha)
+ maybe the Bullets & Numbering dialog or numbering style dialog opens
from the to be introduced new content panel for lists; ideally we
get the new list style dialog in Writer too
=> for now resolve WF
* Transparent background when exporting a page with image to PNG
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136165
+ change is necessary (mwtjunkmail)
+ reason for the confusion is likely the fact that background color
is saved when the full document is exported
+ don't see Draw as equivalent to Inkscape or the like,
-1 for the checkerboard background (Heiko)
+ also it's not clear how to implement without affecting the document
+ but we already have provided checkerboard for the SB Gallery
+ would be nice to have (Stuart)
+ Export option "[ ] Save Background as visible" (Csongor, Stuart)
+ if so, have a new section *Background* with "[x] Save Transparency"
=> comment only
* cannot shrink width of Styles panel
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136428
+ see also
https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice/2020-September/085939.html
+ nasty topic, only as backlog
=> postponed for next Wednesday meeting Sep/30
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