LO Community ex Vanilla and user expectations, impact and other points.

[Michael Meeks]

Hi Alex,

On 22/04/2021 11:12, Alexander Thurgood wrote:
> Yes, I understand that, although it was also my understanding that it
> is/was still possible to provide a complete JDK into the app that could
> then be accepted into the AppStore. I also understand that that might
> require significant effort from Collabora to do so, and that perhaps
> from a business point of view, it is not a route that it wishes to go down.

	So - it's not clear to me what the situation is there:

https://www.fsf.org/blogs/licensing/more-about-the-app-store-gpl-enforcement

	And of course shipping, maintaining & security updating an
entire OpenJDK is an horrible cost to bear, so as Christian says -
not really that attractive; quite apart from the extra 180Mb. Size
is particularly important on Mac with all these awful systems with
tiny SSD's soldered onto the board I guess.

>> 	Is there somewhere better we can point ? for example, if you could
>> control that landing page (which is easy) where would you have it land?
>> Can we make a better page that doesn't confuse people and explains how
>> they can download the TDF version and an OpenJDK to get better 'Base'
>> support?
> 
> My suggestion would be to have it point to a Collabora page, after all
> it is a Collabora product, which page would direct the user to the
> LibreOffice project as the source for any questions, documentation, etc,
> and additionally, should the user feel so inclined in order to obtain
> the missing functionality, to the download site of the TDF release.

	Absolutely happy to do that.

> Personally, I would find it helpful if the pros/cons of each we
> identified on such a page. That way, the user makes their choice in full
> knowledge.

	Seems very sensible.

> For example, the AppStore blurb text doesn't mention that LO Vanilla

	There are really limits to what we can say in the app store
text I'm afraid, and whether people read below the fold is also
unclear to me.

> Are these suggestions of any use ?

	Golden =) of course, its not trivial to re-spin builds and each
time you re-submit there is a risk of some random other new sandbox
violation being found - so this won't happen overnight; but we can
certainly do this.

	Thanks for the feedback!

	Cor - can you file a ticket to knock up a quick pros/cons page
as Alex outlines and get the URL to Tor to include into the build? once
that's in we can iterate it to taste.

	Regards,

		Michael.

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