ESC meeting minutes: 2021-06-10

Miklos Vajna vmiklos at collabora.com
Thu Jun 10 14:40:26 UTC 2021


* Present:
    + Caolan, Michael S, Michael W, Markus, Cloph, Sophie, Stephan, Florian, Olivier, Eike, Heiko, Gabriel, Miklos, Xisco, Thorsten

* Completed Action Items:
    + None

* Pending Action Items:
    + None

* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
    + 7.2 status, beta1 will be tagged tomorrow
      + list label interop feature (Thorsten)
        + improves docx interop, just a few days are needed to polish that and get into master
    + 7.1.4 was announced as final today
    + Remotes: Android, iOS
    + Android viewer

* Documentation (Olivier)
    + New Help
       + Updates in the XHP editor
       + Improvements in CSS for CJK display (Kevin Suo)
    + Helpcontent2
       + new contributors: Ming Hua, Kevin Suo
          + Welcome!
       + Fixes after translations (ohallot, Fitoshido)
       + Updates and refactors (S. Fanning, ohallot)
       + New pages (R. Lima, A. Romedenne, Ohallot)
    + Guides
       + Work in progress
         + Updates in guides much faster → small update gaps to close
    + Wiki
       + Updates in Calc function pages ( S. Fanning)


* UX Update (Heiko)
    + Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
        252(252) (topicUI) bugs open, 175(175) (needsUXEval) needs to be evaluated by the UXteam
    + Updates:
        BZ changes   1 week   1 month    3 months   12 months
             added      3(-2)     8(-1)     25(-3)      77(-3)
         commented     53(6)    228(-55)   877(-22)   3674(-62)
           removed      0(-1)     7(-1)     14(0)       33(-1)
          resolved      9(-7)    48(-10)   140(2)      503(-11)
    + top 10 contributors:
          Heiko Tietze made 210 changes in 1 month, and 2358 changes in 1 year
          Foote, V Stuart made 48 changes in 1 month, and 594 changes in 1 year
          Xisco Fauli made 29 changes in 1 month, and 231 changes in 1 year
          Timur made 28 changes in 1 month, and 179 changes in 1 year
          Telesto made 26 changes in 1 month, and 833 changes in 1 year
          BogdanB made 21 changes in 1 month, and 163 changes in 1 year
          Kaganski, Mike made 21 changes in 1 month, and 183 changes in 1 year
          Ilmari Lauhakangas made 14 changes in 1 month, and 368 changes in 1 year
          *UNKNOWN* made 12 changes in 1 month, and 18 changes in 1 year
          NISZ LibreOffice Team made 10 changes in 1 month, and 22 changes in 1 year

    + 11 new tickets with needsUXEval Jun/03-10

       [Bug 142751] Cannot directly set Character Position properties
          for Impress styles
       [Bug 142744] Emphasis effects should support 'instantaneous' application
       [Bug 142724] In "Asian Phonetic Guide" dialog, Options in "Position"
          drop-down menu are mislabeled.
       [Bug 142704] what is %PRODUCTNAME?
       [Bug 140702] Removal of "To page" anchor context menu entries for frames,
          images, OLE objects (comment 3)
       [Bug 142695] Add info about double-click making commands sticky to all
          affected commands' tooltips
       [Bug 142653] Contextual Single user interface shows no toolbar
   ->  [Bug 142682] UI: Lacking 'border' around selected object
       [Bug 142681] UI: transparency slider active with fill set tot none
   ->  [Bug 142680] UI: Merge cells should be disabled instead of merging
          outside the selection [ Writer tables ]
       + Word UI seems to block complex merges
       [Bug 142644] UI: Languages without hyphenation shouldn't show
          a warning message

* Crash Testing (Caolan)
    + 17(+0) import failure, 9(+0) export failures
    + 3 coverity issues
    + 20 ossfuzz issues

* Crash Reporting (Xisco)
   + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/7.0.6.2
         + (+228) 1052 824 234 0
   + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/7.1.2.2
         + (-397) 3715 4112 4696 6083 7140 8516 7429 5495 3968 2046 0
   + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/7.1.3.2
         + (+571) 7105 6534 5427 3679 1730 0
    + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/signature/cppu::OInterfaceContainerHelper::disposeAndClear(com::sun::star::lang::EventObject%20const%20&)
	+ likely fixed. Thanks to Caolán

   + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/signature/com::sun::star::io::NotConnectedException::NotConnectedException(rtl::OUString%20const%20&,com::sun::star::uno::Reference%3Ccom::sun::star::uno::XInterface%3E%20const%20&)
	+ Since 7.1.3.2, no steps to reproduce yet
	+ maybe https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=141115 ?

    + some symbols on the crashreport server are sometimes missing, breakpad binary just crashes frequently
      + currently the caller script doesn’t handle failures
      + it was discovered recently, not specific to the recent breakpad upgrade

* Mentoring/easyhack update (Hossein)
          committer...   1 week      1 month     3 months    12 months
                  open      85(13)      125(19)     161(27)      169(27)
               reviews     308(-36)     964(-38)   3100(36)     3286(196)
                merged     268(-118)   1360(13)    3913(80)     4097(264)
             abandoned      12(-15)      65(-6)     238(3)       241(6)
           own commits     257(-47)    1155(58)    3093(17)    13512(-29)
        review commits      52(0)       221(-19)    912(-22)    4461(-5)
        contributor...   1 week      1 month     3 months    12 months
                  open      23(5)        62(7)       73(7)       76(8)
               reviews     780(-174)   3168(4)     8766(162)   9224(602)
                merged      15(-3)       88(-19)    309(-11)    333(13)
             abandoned       7(5)        21(-4)     151(-2)     160(7)
           own commits      15(-9)      107(-24)    444(-22)   2116(-3)
        review commits       0(0)         0(0)        0(0)        0(0)
    + easyHack statistics:
       needsDevEval 8(8)   needsUXEval 2(2)   cleanup_comments 257(257)
       total 305(305)   assigned 26(26)   open 250(250)
    + top 10 contributors:
          Johnny_M made 28 patches in 1 month, and 718 patches in 1 year
          scito made 9 patches in 1 month, and 15 patches in 1 year
          Steve Fanning made 8 patches in 1 month, and 42 patches in 1 year
          Dante DM made 7 patches in 1 month, and 108 patches in 1 year
          Srebotnjak, Martin made 4 patches in 1 month, and 7 patches in 1 year
          Nagy Tibor made 4 patches in 1 month, and 41 patches in 1 year
          Ming Hua made 4 patches in 1 month, and 17 patches in 1 year
          Kevin Suo made 4 patches in 1 month, and 12 patches in 1 year
          Campbell, Robert M made 2 patches in 1 month, and 2 patches in 1 year
          Attila Szűcs made 2 patches in 1 month, and 41 patches in 1 year
    + top 10 reviewers:
          Németh, László made 74 review comments in 1 month, and 166 in 1 year
          Thorsten Behrens made 72 review comments in 1 month, and 148 in 1 year
          Olivier Hallot made 68 review comments in 1 month, and 354 in 1 year
          Kaganski, Mike made 64 review comments in 1 month, and 216 in 1 year
          Xisco Fauli made 64 review comments in 1 month, and 226 in 1 year
          Heiko Tietze made 44 review comments in 1 month, and 118 in 1 year
          Michael Stahl made 44 review comments in 1 month, and 234 in 1 year
          McNamara, Caolán made 42 review comments in 1 month, and 164 in 1 year
          Grandin, Noel made 42 review comments in 1 month, and 150 in 1 year
          Luboš Luňák made 38 review comments in 1 month, and 60 in 1 year
    + Patches automatically abandoned:
        A uitest for bug59121. ( Tim LeQuire )
            - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/113253

        tdf#134721 WIP tdf#70039 add extrusion to oox import/export ( Regina Henschel )
            - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/113445

    + big CONGRATULATIONS to contributors who have at least 1 merged patch, since last report:
          Marco Falke
          Mihail Balabanov
          Tobias Schulz

* Commit Access
    + None
    + GSoC students from this year? (Markus)
        + mentors: if your student follows a feature branch workflow, then feel free to ask for commit access to your student (Thorsten)

* Developer Certification (Stephan/Kendy/Thorsten/László)
    + poked candidates

* Jenkins / CI update (Cloph)
    from:Thu Jun  3 13:46:41 2021
    master linux rel  jobs: 135 ok: 135 ko:   0 fail ratio:  0.00 % break:   0 broken duration: 0.00%
    master linux dbg  jobs: 103 ok: 103 ko:   0 fail ratio:  0.00 % break:   0 broken duration: 0.00%
    master mac rel    jobs: 114 ok: 114 ko:   0 fail ratio:  0.00 % break:   0 broken duration: 0.00%
    master mac dbg    jobs: 116 ok: 116 ko:   0 fail ratio:  0.00 % break:   0 broken duration: 0.00%
    master win rel    jobs:  87 ok:  83 ko:   4 fail ratio:  4.60 % break:   1 broken duration: 2.42%
    master win dbg    jobs:  89 ok:  84 ko:   5 fail ratio:  5.62 % break:   1 broken duration: 2.66%
    master win64 dbg  jobs:  86 ok:  79 ko:   7 fail ratio:  8.14 % break:   4 broken duration:10.36%
    master gerrit lin jobs: 539 ok: 442 ko:  71 fail ratio: 13.17% time for ok: mean:  20 median:  18
    master gerrit plg jobs: 532 ok: 368 ko: 124 fail ratio: 23.31% time for ok: mean:  42 median:  39
    master gerrit win jobs: 551 ok: 372 ko: 124 fail ratio: 22.50% time for ok: mean:  53 median:  55
    master gerrit mac jobs: 539 ok: 438 ko:  67 fail ratio: 12.43% time for ok: mean:  27 median:  24
    master android    jobs: 522 ok: 471 ko:  21 fail ratio:  4.02% time for ok: mean:  27 median:  18
    master gerrit all jobs: 548 ok: 305 ko: 179 fail ratio: 32.66% time for ok: mean:  72 median:  60
   + https://dev-www.libreoffice.org/tmp/gerrit_210610.html
   + tests that failed more than twice in last seven days
      3 CppunitTest_sc_subsequent_export-test2		gerrit_windows
      3 CppunitTest_sd_tiledrendering		gerrit_linux_gcc_release
      3 UITest_writer_tests2		gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
      4 CppunitTest_emfio_emf		gerrit_mac
      4 CppunitTest_sc_uicalc		gerrit_windows
      4 CppunitTest_sw_core_undo		gerrit_windows
      4 CppunitTest_sw_uiwriter		gerrit_windows
      4 UITest_writer_tests3		gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
      4 UITest_writer_tests7		gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
    + nothing unusual, smooth week, no new failure patterns
    + last week had a spike in failures, but now it went away

* l10n (Sophie)
  + work is ongoing

* GSoC 2021 announced (Heiko/Thorsten/Ilmari)
  + project page: http://g.co/gsoc
  + next step:
    + June 7, 2021 - August 16, 2021: Coding ← we are here
      + remind your students to send weekly reports to the mailing list
    + July 12 - 16, 2021: Evaluations
    + August 16 - 23, 2021: Students Submit Code and Final Evaluations
    + August 23 - 30, 2021: Mentors Submit Final Evaluations
    + August 31, 2021: Results Announced

* LibOCon 2021 (virtual) September 23-25 (Cloph)
  + CfP (til Jun 30, 2 weeks to go)
    https://events.documentfoundation.org/libocon2021/cfp
  + the conf tool is now up & running

* What’s cooking (Miklos)
    + ooxml markup-level diff tool (Gulsah)
      + tool at bin/compare-ooxml-analyze-results.py in core.git feature/ooxml-analyze
      + found e.g. https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=142716
      + idea: not only find problems, but also fix the found problems
      + meant to complement the layout-level compare tools and odfundiff
     + Writer: improved list handling (Thorsten)
       + now adding ODF support
       + and the UI stays the same for now


* MAR based autoupdater still relevant? (cloph)
  https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Budget2021#Finish_MAR-based_autoupdater
   + move to app stores
   + Windows Package Manager released
    https://devblogs.microsoft.com/commandline/windows-package-manager-1-0/
    might make that less relevant even
https://github.com/microsoft/winget-pkgs/tree/master/manifests/l/LibreOffice
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=68274
   +  https://github.com/google/omaha (what google chrome uses for example)
    + is it still relevant? We have the idea on the tenders page (Cloph)
      + hope that app stores / package managers replace it
      + macOS makes non-app-store apps’ life harder and harder
    + see one more issue: no MSI support in the mozilla updater (Markus)
      + MAR may not be the right tool for LO auto-update
      + have MSI / MSP already, perhaps build on top of that instead?
      + Chromium, does it have the same issues? (Miklos)
        + needs research (Markus)
      + even the MSI is a wrapper around their normal installation set
      + back then the work stopped because of the MAR vs MSI conflict
    + disagree slightly that app-stores solve the auto-update problem (Thorsten)
       + browsers still to provide own auto-update for years, probably
       + from that angle, rolling release still needs it
       + be it mozilla-based or not
    + would it be a solution that the auto-update does a full download? (Cloph)
      + still then a non-admin user can’t install update (Thorsten)
    + prefer not something custom, use Mozilla or Chromium if reusable (Markus)
      + to avoid the needed security audit
    + would it work to have the tender worded in a way that does not mandate MAR? (Miklos)
      + that could work (Markus, Florian)
      + and explicitly mention that breaking MSI-based LO installation set is not OK
     + size of installation binary? (Heiko)
        + download 1GB a month? Not great
        + tricky to specify (Thorsten)
        + full download everytime is not an option (Miklos)
          + clearly desirable (Thorsten)
=> good to re-word the tender idea to not hardcode MAR (all)

* QA update (Xisco)
    + Please help flesh out the monthly reports:
          https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/2qbepFYXXan4ief

    + UNCONFIRMED: 1670 (+19)
        + enhancements: 239  (+5)
        + needsUXEval: 5 (+0)
        + haveBackTrace: 4 (+0)
        + needsDevAdvice: 21 (+1)
        + documentation:  5 (+2)
        + android:  3 (+1)
        + iOS:  0 (+0)
        + Online:  17 (+0)


    + Most pressing bugs:
     New:
        None

        Old:
        + REGRESSION Setting to repeat heading in writer tables no longer works
            + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=140506
            + Bjoern?

        + Writer document with tables lost data in cells (apparently) replacing with 0
            + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=131025
            + Eike is asking for Writer advice
            + there are some code pointers from Mike K there

       + macOS: Can't Save As after installing language pack on Catalina
           + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=132025

           + more info here: “Subject: Budget 2020 proposals and macOS
Catalina
             support / onboarding” on the dev list (Heiko)

        + Text runs of RTL scripts (e.g. Arabic, Hebrew, Persian) from
imported
          PDF are reversed, PDFIProcessor::mirrorString not behaving
            + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=104597

            + Thorsten looking at it
            + old problem, but many duplicates
     Fixed:
        + [CRASH] searching on slide notes will crash Impress
            + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=142478
            + Thanks to Tomaz
    + New high severity bugs of the week:
        + Crash in: cppu::OInterfaceContainerHelper::disposeAndClear(com::sun::star::lang::EventObject const &)
            + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=141769
            + already fixed, thanks Caolan

        + FILESAVE PPTX Textbox vertical top align becomes middle in PP
            + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=142235
            + Attila?

        + Writer stops responding with busy CPU after opening this document
            + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=142694
            + Michael S?

* QA stats

    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
      +113  +9 (-98) overall)
      many thanks to the top bug squashers:
       Timur                   13
       Heiko Tietze            11
       QA Administrators       11
       Roland Kurmann          5
       Xisco Faulí             5
       Buovjaga                4
       Eike Rathke             4
       Dieter                  3
       m.a.riosv               3
       stragu                  3

    + top 10 bugs reporters:
       NISZ LibreOffice Team   13
       Telesto                 7
       Valek Filippov          5
       Clarc                   3
       Mike Kaganski           3
       Nikitchuk Kateryna      2
       Timur                   2
       Xisco Faulí             2
       jnnanan                 2
       Colin                   1

    + top 10 bugs fixers:
       Heiko Tietze            6
       scito                   5
       Grandin, Noel           2
       Németh, László          2
       Rathke, Eike            2
       Timur                   2
                               1
       *UNKNOWN*               1
       Andreas Heinisch        1
       Attila Bakos            1

    + top 10 bugs confirmers:
       Dieter                  10
       Timur                   10
       Ilmari Lauhakangas      8
       Xisco Fauli             8
       Foote, V Stuart         4
       Heiko Tietze            3
       Adolfo Jayme Barrientos 2
       Gülşah Köse             2
       Kosiorek, Bartosz       2
       NISZ LibreOffice Team   2


* Highest-Priority bugs (aka "MABs"):
   + http://bit.ly/2lJAAJI
     6.0 : 2/53 -     3 %  (+0)
     5.4 : 0/41 -     0 %  (+0)
     5.3 : 0/54 -     0 %  (+0)
     5.2 : 0/43 -     0 %  (+0)
     5.1 : 1/36 -     2 %  (+0)
     5.0 : 0/64 -     0 %  (+0)
     4.4 : 0/76 -     0 %  (+0)
     4.3 : 1/73 -     1 %  (+0)
     4.2 : 2/134 -    1 %  (+0)
     4.1 : 3/85 -     3 %  (+0)
     4.0 : 2/83 -     2 %  (+0)
     old : 3/248 -    1 %  (+0)


* Bisected bugs open: keyword 'bisected'
   + more accurate - down to a single commit.
   + http://bit.ly/2dyIfDy
   +

     done by:
        Timur                  3
        Xisco Fauli            3
        greenreaper            1
        Raal                   1


* Bibisected bugs open: keyword 'bibisected'
   + http://bit.ly/2cSCXlS
   +

     done by:
        Timur                  3
        Xisco Fauli            3
        greenreaper            1
        Raal                   1
        smokou000              1


* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
   + 1335(+2) bugs open of 10983(+10) total 11(+0) high prio.

     done by:
        Timur                  3
        Telesto                3
        Xisco Fauli            3
        Kaganski, Mike         1
        Raal                   1


* ~Component   count net * high severity regressions
   + http://bit.ly/1HWHb3E
     Writer        - 8(+0)
     Calc          - 1(+0)
     Impress       - 1(+0)
     LibreOffice   - 1(+0)

   by OS:
     All           - 11(+0)
     Linux         - 0(+0)
     Mac OS X      - 0(+0)
     Windows       - 0(+0)


* ~Component   count net * all regressions
   + http://bit.ly/1BUdI8i
     Writer: other            - 432(+3)
     Calc                     - 227(+0)
     Impress                  - 140(-2)
     Writer: docx filter      - 56(+1)
     LibreOffice              - 53(+0)
     Crashes                  - 49(+1)
     Borders                  - 48(+0)
     Draw                     - 47(+0)
     Writer: perf             - 44(+0)
     UI                       - 40(-1)
     Base                     - 34(+0)
     Writer: other filter     - 33(-1)
     Chart                    - 32(+1)
     Writer: doc filter       - 27(+0)
     graphics stack           - 26(+0)
     RTL                      - 25(+0)
     Printing and PDF export  - 19(+0)
     filters and storage      - 19(+0)
     BASIC                    - 15(+0)
     Formula Editor           - 2(+0)
     framework                - 1(+0)
     sdk                      - 1(+0)


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