Minutes from the UX/design meeting 2021-Oct-07

Heiko Tietze heiko.tietze at documentfoundation.org
Thu Oct 7 12:42:08 UTC 2021

Present: Heiko
Comments: Sascha, Regina, Tomaz


  * FEATURE REQUEST: Allow setting Icon color separate from Line color
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=144633
    + "Symbol color" would be relevant for only one out of four options
    + symbols' color is aligned to the line color
    + sure an improvement but only for lesser needs a.k.a. impact minor (Sascha)
    + renaming the feature makes sense (Adolfo)
    + depends on whether this attribute is defined in the format and
      if other formats/applications allow changing the color; in this case
      we need it for proper round-trips
    + ODF1.2: "The fill attributes of the series and data points specify
      how the symbols are filled. By default the symbols are filled solid
      with the same color as the connecting line. In case no line color
      is given but a fill color, the line uses the fill color."
    => keep open and verify WF

  * Line thickness specification - too many choices, nonintuitive
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48622
    + change to 0.5/0.75/2/4/5 pt?
    + hairline with actual 0pt resp. 1 device pixel is required (Regina, Tomaz)
    + MSO2016 does ¼, ½, ¾, 1, 1½, 2¼, 3, 4½, 6pt
    => suggest 0.05 (very thin), 0.5 (thin), 1.5 (medium), 2.25 (thick),
       4.5pt (extra thick)
  * Default table border width is useless
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=99027
    + "Default" TS (applied per toolbar) uses 0.5pt, "None" (insert
      per menu) has 0.05pt
    => WFM
  * Writer table border styles offered are different in the toolbar button
    vs. Table Properties dialog
  + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=144938
    + what is thin/thick in respect to the predefined border styles?
    + in my opinion the most important condition to change (Sascha)
    + unclear what the difference exactly are; the preview is hard to
      read and would benefit from labels
    + unclear if defined in the format
    => get more information from developers

  * Image position off when changing 'to paragraph' to 'to character'
    back 'to paragraph' and drag the anchor
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=144611
    + "If you move the anchor from one paragraph to another paragraph, LO keeps
      the distance between anchor and image. If you drag the image, you can
      reduce or expand the distance between anchor and image." - is this
      the intended behavior? (Dieter)
    + anchors are a wild-card, 1000 other bugs needs more attention,
      keep it open (Sascha)
    => prefer to resolve as NAB
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