ESC meeting minutes: 2022-08-25

Miklos Vajna vmiklos at collabora.com
Thu Aug 25 14:36:28 UTC 2022


* Present:
     + Caolan, Michael W, Lubos, Stephan, Ilmari, Hossein, Miklos, Kendy, Gabriel, Tomaz, Heiko, Eike, Michael S, Cloph, Thorsten

* Completed Action Items:

* Pending Action Items:

* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
     + 7.4 status: 7.4.1 rc2 in 2 weeks
     + 7.3 status: 7.3.6 rc2 in 1 week
     + Appstores
       + Windows: still back-and-forth with permissions
       + Mac: waiting for Windows

* Documentation (Olivier)
     + Missing Olivier
     + Bugzilla Documentation statistics
         240(240) bugs open
     + Updates:
         BZ changes   1 week   1 month   3 months   12 months
            created     4(-4)    33(2)      87(-3)     331(-2)
          commented     5(-5)    53(3)     234(-42)   1445(-25)
           resolved     0(-1)    12(0)      41(-1)     211(-3)
     + top 10 contributors:
           Olivier Hallot made 47 changes in 1 month, and 498 changes in 1 year
           Kaganski, Mike made 23 changes in 1 month, and 115 changes in 1 year
           Seth Chaiklin made 15 changes in 1 month, and 345 changes in 1 year
           Roman Kuznetsov made 9 changes in 1 month, and 27 changes in 1 year
           Rafael Lima made 7 changes in 1 month, and 296 changes in 1 year
           Dieter made 6 changes in 1 month, and 96 changes in 1 year
           Robert Großkopf made 6 changes in 1 month, and 15 changes in 1 year
           Justin Luth made 4 changes in 1 month, and 11 changes in 1 year
           Nabet, Julien made 3 changes in 1 month, and 92 changes in 1 year
           Werner Tietz made 3 changes in 1 month, and 3 changes in 1 year

* UX Update (Heiko)
     + Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
         271(271) (topicUI) bugs open, 47(47) (needsUXEval) needs to be evaluated by the UXteam
     + Updates:
         BZ changes   1 week   1 month   3 months   12 months
              added      5(-1)     8(-3)    10(-2)      34(-3)
          commented     74(31)   171(7)    410(-42)   2157(-17)
            removed      2(1)      3(2)      4(2)       29(1)
           resolved     10(5)     30(7)     68(-3)     319(4)
     + top 10 contributors:
           Heiko Tietze made 138 changes in 1 month, and 1512 changes in 1 year
           Rafael Lima made 31 changes in 1 month, and 117 changes in 1 year
           Roman Kuznetsov made 23 changes in 1 month, and 160 changes in 1 year
           Foote, V Stuart made 22 changes in 1 month, and 240 changes in 1 year
           Dieter made 17 changes in 1 month, and 204 changes in 1 year
           *UNKNOWN* made 15 changes in 1 month, and 15 changes in 1 year
           Kaganski, Mike made 14 changes in 1 month, and 142 changes in 1 year
           Timur made 13 changes in 1 month, and 76 changes in 1 year
           Tavo made 11 changes in 1 month, and 13 changes in 1 year
           *UNKNOWN* made 7 changes in 1 month, and 7 changes in 1 year
     + 6 new tickets with needsUXEval
  ->   + [Bug 150494] missing default value for LanguageTool "Base URL"
         + adding https://api.languagetool.org/v2
         + should not be enabled by default, because it sends user data to 3rd-party servers (Kendy)
           + thought that the free service was pre-selected, and if the user decides the privacy prolicy is OK, then it starts working
           + there is an "enable" checkbox separately (Heiko)
           + not supplying the username / API key means the free tier (Cloph)
         + do we want to advertise this 3rd-party? (Heiko)
           + hard to decide if it is advertising or convenience for the user (Kendy)
           + would like to do it - convenience first (Heiko)
           + no objections (all)
  ->   + [Bug 121913] Title case setting for style headings capitalizes 'and'
         + introduce a special case style
         + relevant for English only? (Heiko)
         + suspect this is very language-specific (Michael S)
         + good to research if icu can do this (Miklos)
       + [Bug 150489] Drop separate docking Elements window, and use Sidebar instead
       + [Bug 150477] "Slide 1 of 1" instead of "Page" in the bottom bar of Draw
       + [Bug 150471] Freeze XXX commands in tabbed interface appear twice
       + [Bug 150466] Hide Print File Directly by default in the tabbed and
              tabbed compact user interfaces

* Crash Testing (Caolan)
     + 108(-85) import failure, 73(-91) export failures
     + 100 coverity issues
     + 8 ossfuzz issues, 1 crash, 5 timeouts, 1 OOM, 1 leak

* Crash Reporting (Xisco)
    + Missing Xisco
    + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/7.2.7.2
          + (+111) 613 502 512 516 479 484 410 396 382 314 268 167 0
    + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/7.3.4.2
          + (-146) 1102 1248 1498 1695 1672 1581 1128 963 675 0
    + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/7.3.5.2
          + (+159) 1355 1196 866 550 0
    + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/7.4.0.3
          + (+528) 528 0

* Mentoring/easyhack update (Hossein)
           committer...   1 week      1 month      3 months    12 months
                   open      67(2)       115(-5)      126(-7)      126(-7)
                reviews     294(-114)   1170(-100)   2922(-74)   12058(-128)
                 merged     332(52)     1183(144)    3346(22)    15219(68)
              abandoned      11(-5)       55(7)       153(-3)      784(-2)
            own commits     257(49)      885(122)    2362(26)    11804(34)
         review commits      48(3)       171(-22)     597(8)      3260(-32)
         contributor...   1 week    1 month     3 months   12 months
                   open      59(-6)    134(9)      142(8)      147(8)
                reviews     900(48)   2954(178)   7636(14)   33222(16)
                 merged      30(6)      81(-30)    219(5)     1158(-43)
              abandoned       1(-2)     13(-9)      89(-8)     425(-7)
            own commits      21(4)      50(-30)    177(-4)    1178(-35)
         review commits       0(0)       0(0)        0(0)        0(0)
     + easyHack statistics:
        needsDevEval 8(8)   needsUXEval 1(1)   cleanup_comments 302(302)
        total 363(363)   assigned 15(15)   open 319(319)
     + top 10 contributors:
           Paris Oplopoios made 20 patches in 1 month, and 68 patches in 1 year
           Colomban Wendling made 6 patches in 1 month, and 9 patches in 1 year
           Hao Liu made 5 patches in 1 month, and 5 patches in 1 year
           Hannah Meeks made 4 patches in 1 month, and 19 patches in 1 year
           Srebotnjak, Martin made 2 patches in 1 month, and 24 patches in 1 year
           Ehsan Movahedian made 2 patches in 1 month, and 4 patches in 1 year
           Weblate made 1 patches in 1 month, and 3 patches in 1 year
           Matt K made 1 patches in 1 month, and 2 patches in 1 year
           Radhey Parekh made 1 patches in 1 month, and 3 patches in 1 year
           Isha Desai made 1 patches in 1 month, and 3 patches in 1 year
     + top 10 reviewers:
           McNamara, Caolán made 112 review comments in 1 month, and 616 in 1 year
           Michael Stahl made 112 review comments in 1 month, and 1200 in 1 year
           Vajngerl, Tomaž made 110 review comments in 1 month, and 402 in 1 year
           Nabet, Julien made 86 review comments in 1 month, and 684 in 1 year
           Xisco Fauli made 84 review comments in 1 month, and 924 in 1 year
           Thorsten Behrens made 80 review comments in 1 month, and 844 in 1 year
           Kaganski, Mike made 60 review comments in 1 month, and 638 in 1 year
           Adolfo Jayme Barrientos made 52 review comments in 1 month, and 1042 in 1 year
           Grandin, Noel made 44 review comments in 1 month, and 364 in 1 year
           Hossein made 38 review comments in 1 month, and 248 in 1 year
     + Patches automatically abandoned:
         Qt implement un-maxmize and un-fullscreen handling ( Jan-Marek Glogowski )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/135813
         SF_region new help page ( Alain Romedenne )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/135983
         Qt X11 fix initial positioning the "hard" way ( Jan-Marek Glogowski )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/136060
     + big CONGRATULATIONS to contributors who have at least 1 merged patch, since last report:
           Hao Liu

   * New blog post (Hossein)
     + gbuild: LibreOffice build system (draft)
       https://dev.blog.documentfoundation.org/?p=551&preview=1&_ppp=1fdd526f31
       Feedbacks and suggestions are appreciated
       + good to search for "gbuild field guide" from Michael S, conference talk (Miklos)
       https://people.freedesktop.org/~mst/LOConf2017_gbuild_field_guide.pdf

* GSoC (Hossein/Ilmari)
   + Timeline: https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/timeline
   + Final week is near (Ilmari)
   + are students coming to the conference? (Thorsten)
     + not sure if the invite was accepted, Sophie handles it (Ilmari)
     + Paris accepted the invite (Tomaz)

* Conference (Heiko)
   + Shall we have a next hackfest there?
     + Propose to connect dinner with a hackfest on one of the evenings
AI: reach out to the conference organizers for this (Heiko)

* Commit Access

* Developer Certification (Stephan/Kendy/Thorsten/László)
   + resting since: 28 weeks (limit: 20 weeks)

* Jenkins / CI update (Cloph)
     from:Thu Aug 18 14:01:59 2022
     master linux rel  jobs: 113 ok: 113 ko:   0 fail ratio:  0.00 % break:   0 broken duration: 0.00%
     master linux dbg  jobs:  93 ok:  79 ko:  14 fail ratio: 15.05 % break:  12 broken duration:20.28%
     master mac rel    jobs:  68 ok:  68 ko:   0 fail ratio:  0.00 % break:   0 broken duration: 0.00%
     master mac dbg    jobs:  75 ok:  74 ko:   1 fail ratio:  1.33 % break:   1 broken duration: 1.64%
     master win rel    jobs: 109 ok: 104 ko:   4 fail ratio:  3.67 % break:   3 broken duration: 1.03%
     master win dbg    jobs: 111 ok: 111 ko:   0 fail ratio:  0.00 % break:   0 broken duration: 0.00%
     master win64 dbg  jobs: 114 ok: 114 ko:   0 fail ratio:  0.00 % break:   0 broken duration: 0.00%
     master gerrit lin jobs: 440 ok: 365 ko:  55 fail ratio: 12.50% time for ok: mean:  25 median:  19
     master gerrit plg jobs: 418 ok: 277 ko: 115 fail ratio: 27.51% time for ok: mean:  47 median:  44
     master gerrit win jobs: 477 ok: 332 ko: 115 fail ratio: 24.11% time for ok: mean:  50 median:  42
     master gerrit mac jobs: 445 ok: 356 ko:  59 fail ratio: 13.26% time for ok: mean:  39 median:  33
     master android    jobs: 404 ok: 358 ko:  28 fail ratio:  6.93% time for ok: mean:  34 median:  25
     master gerrit all jobs: 444 ok: 244 ko: 163 fail ratio: 36.71% time for ok: mean:  70 median:  59
    + https://dev-www.libreoffice.org/tmp/gerrit_220825.html
    + tests that failed more than twice in last seven days
       3 Killed by the kill-wrapper                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
       3 CppunitTest_sc_uicalc                gerrit_windows
       3 UITest_sw_sidebar                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil_branch
       4 CppunitTest_vcl_pdfexport                gerrit_mac
       7 UITest_math_demo                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
       8 CppunitTest_sw_uiwriter6                gerrit_windows
          - this is testRedlineAutoCorrect2 which is very odd to me
      10 UITest_impress_tests2                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
      21 UITest_inputLine                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
    + UITest_inputLine seems to have started with mythes bump
      https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/138636
      https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/138708 is likely fixing it already
   + this week: back to normal (Cloph)
     + 2 more macs: no longer a bottleneck
     + UITest_inputLine failed a lot, perhaps due to the mythes bump, possibly Caolan already fixed it
       - I think https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/138065 was the start
       - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/138708 seemed to fix it
   + do you use ccache for Windows? (Hossein)
     + no, only pch (Cloph)
     + pretty sure it worked at one point, but performance wasn't that good (Lubos)
       + if memory serves correctly, didn't help at all for Thorsten
       + Windows IO (under cygwin) is slow, so ccache doesn't help
       + the mean time for the gerrit clang debug build (including uichecks) is the same as the windows build, so not much point in improving it (Cloph)
         + goal is to have the full set in <90 mins and we currently met it
       + ccache helps or not depends on # of CPU cores / IO bandwidth (Thorsten)

* What’s cooking (Miklos)
   + working on minimal crop support for media shapes / videos, from PPTX (Miklos)
   + Currently ongoing conference (Ilmari)
     + https://latam.conference.libreoffice.org/, Olivier & Xisco are there

* QA update (Xisco)
     + UNCONFIRMED: 1733 (+26)
         + enhancements: 285  (+1)
         + needsUXEval: 2 (-2)
         + haveBackTrace: 6 (+0)
         + needsDevAdvice: 27 (+0)
         + documentation:  13 (+1)
         + android:  3 (+0)
         + iOS:  0 (+0)
         + Online:  12 (+0)



     + Most pressing bugs:
      New:
      Old:
      Fixed:


     + New high severity bugs of the week:
         + Improve configuration of table borders
             + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=143249
             + enhancement request, not a regression
             + lot of tickets around this, behavior is quite complex, poor UX (Heiko)

         + CRASH: deleting sheet
             + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=150499
             + already fixed, thanks to Lubos

         + FILEOPEN ODT Unable to open file created with LibreOffice
             + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=150530
             + not a regression after all, already in OOo 3.2

         + How are these bugs selected? (Hossein)
           + dev-tools.git script has some criteria (Miklos)
           + footnotes is a poor area in general

* QA stats
     + Khaled continues to fix lots of CTL/RTL bugs, thanks for that
     + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
       +118  +8 (-116) overall)
       many thanks to the top bug squashers:
        QA Administrators       12
        خالد حسني               10
        Heiko Tietze            9
        V Stuart Foote          8
        Xisco Faulí             6
        Julien Nabet            5
        László Németh           5
        Andreas Heinisch        4
        Caolán McNamara         4
        Dieter                  4

     + top 10 bugs reporters:
        Mike Kaganski           5
        Rafael Lima             5
        Gabor Kelemen (allotropia) 4
        Hossein                 4
        Thorsten Wagner         4
        Telesto                 3
        jcsanz                  3
        Herbert Stojan          2
        Marcin Segit            2
        Xisco Faulí             2

     + top 10 bugs fixers:
        McNamara, Caolán        5
        Németh, László          5
        Andreas Heinisch        4
        Xisco Fauli             4
        خالد حسني               4
        *UNKNOWN*               2
        Aron Budea              2
        Heiko Tietze            2
        Hossein                 2
        Justin Luth             2

     + top 10 bugs confirmers:
        Dieter                  13
        Heiko Tietze            9
        Rafael Lima             9
        Roman Kuznetsov         6
        Xisco Fauli             6
        Ezinne Nnamani          5
        Nabet, Julien           4
        m.a.riosv               3
        Faisal                  2
        Foote, V Stuart         2

* Highest-Priority bugs (aka "MABs"):
    + http://bit.ly/2lJAAJI
      6.0 : 1/53 -     1 %  (+0)
      5.4 : 0/41 -     0 %  (+0)
      5.3 : 0/54 -     0 %  (+0)
      5.2 : 0/43 -     0 %  (+0)
      5.1 : 1/36 -     2 %  (+0)
      5.0 : 0/64 -     0 %  (+0)
      4.4 : 0/76 -     0 %  (+0)
      4.3 : 0/73 -     0 %  (+0)
      4.2 : 2/134 -    1 %  (+0)
      4.1 : 3/85 -     3 %  (+0)
      4.0 : 2/83 -     2 %  (+0)
      old : 1/246 -    0 %  (+0)

* Bisected bugs open: keyword 'bisected'
    + more accurate - down to a single commit.
    + http://bit.ly/2dyIfDy
    +

      done by:
         Xisco Fauli            5
         Raal                   2
         Telesto                2
         Hossein                1
         Weghorn, Michael       1

* Bibisected bugs open: keyword 'bibisected'
    + http://bit.ly/2cSCXlS
    +

      done by:
         Xisco Fauli            5
         Raal                   2
         Telesto                2
         Hossein                1
         Weghorn, Michael       1
         Nabet, Julien          1

* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
    + 1199(-2) bugs open of 11950(+12) total 10(+0) high prio.

      done by:
         Xisco Fauli            4
         Telesto                3
         Hossein                1
         Faisal                 1
         Weghorn, Michael       1
         Nabet, Julien          1
         Foote, V Stuart        1

* ~Component   count net * high severity regressions
    + http://bit.ly/1HWHb3E
      Writer        - 6(+0)
      Calc          - 1(+0)
      Draw          - 1(+0)
      Impress       - 1(+0)
      LibreOffice   - 1(+0)

    by OS:
      All           - 9(+0)
      Linux         - 0(+0)
      Mac OS X      - 0(+0)
      Windows       - 1(+0)

* ~Component   count net * all regressions
    + http://bit.ly/1BUdI8i
      Writer: other            - 430(-1)
      Calc                     - 195(-2)
      Impress                  - 118(+1)
      Writer: docx filter      - 57(+0)
      Crashes                  - 53(+0)
      LibreOffice              - 46(+0)
      Draw                     - 44(-1)
      UI                       - 42(+1)
      Writer: perf             - 36(+0)
      Borders                  - 35(+0)
      Base                     - 32(+0)
      Writer: other filter     - 32(+0)
      RTL                      - 24(+0)
      Chart                    - 23(+0)
      Writer: doc filter       - 20(-1)
      BASIC                    - 18(+0)
      Printing and PDF export  - 18(+0)
      filters and storage      - 15(+0)
      graphics stack           - 13(+0)
      Formula Editor           - 3(+0)
      framework                - 2(+0)
      Linguistic               - 1(+0)
      sdk                      - 1(+0)


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