Minutes from the UX/design meeting 2022-Feb-02

[Heiko Tietze]

Present: John, Heiko
Comments: Justin, Mike, Regina, Telesto, Thomas, Stuart, Mihkel, Bastian, 
Adolfo, Rizal, Kendy, Csongor

Tickets/Topics

  * Writer: Table can be moved to new page, but not back
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=144121
    + page break is an attribute of the table, it was never possible (Justin)
    + special handling might be possible (Mike)
    + only straight-forward solution is to separate pb from table and
      modify/insert the paragraph before (Heiko)
    + wonder how other applications do it (John)
    => WF/NAB

  * Manage Changes sidebar in Writer no longer needs to be an experimental
    feature
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=147042
    + yes (Kendy)
    => do it

  * Make clear distinction on differences between "Export" and "Save As",
    and move items in those filters accordingly
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=116703
    + "save as" has formats for which import and export filter exists; "export"
       has those for which only export exists (Regina)
       + not in general true, for example PDF (Mike)
    + overview of current situation and some options in c16
      + remove Export and have everything under SaveAs (Telesto)
      + lossy formats (no import filter) under Export; option 4 (Thomas)
      + open document formats at SaveAs everything else at Export,
        option 1 (Stuart)
        + bad idea (Csongor), forcing users into a certain format hinders
          collaboration (John)
      + keep as it is, option 0 (Mihkel)
    + Understand Export as some final procedure, a file that can't be
      opened again; meaning option 4 (John)
    + Exporting means that plain Save will not work on this format but was
      used before (John)
    => do option 4 and test whether the (export) filter is used as
       the actual format for subsequent Save operations

  * Icon styles should not modify official application icons in start center
    (and other relevant places)
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=126074
    + only one icon (Bastian), themable icons (Adolfo, Mike, Rizal)
    + proposal for guideline in c15
    + brand identification is important; we should aim for consistency across
      the themes; current icon themes work well (John)
    => guideline is okay
  * Adopt new application icons for LibreOffice 7.0
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=132398
    => MIME type icons and application icons are part of the theme,
       the main icon should be reworked
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