ESC meeting minutes: 2022-02-03

Miklos Vajna vmiklos at collabora.com
Thu Feb 3 15:43:10 UTC 2022


* Present:
     + Thorsten, Stephan, Michael W, Hossein, Gabriel, Heiko, Miklos, Xisco, Olivier, Cloph, Eike, Michael S, Caolan

* Completed Action Items:
     + file a GSoC idea for Beanshell / Rhino extension (Michael S, Hossein)

* Pending Action Items:
     + None

* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
     + 7.3 status: 7.3.1 rc1 next week
     + 7.2 status: 7.2.6 rc1 in 2 weeks
     + Remotes: Android, iOS
     + Android viewer

* Documentation (Olivier)
     + New Help, no news
     + Helpcontent2
        + usual bugfix and updates (A. Romedenne, R. Lima, A. Gelmini, more...)
        + many feedback from translators (S. Horacek, more..)
        + New pages for ScriptForge (R. Lima)
     + Guides
        + progress in Base Guide (S. Fanning, V. Narayanan, flywire)
        + Progress in Getting Started (J. Weber)

     + Bugzilla Documentation statistics
         237(237) bugs open
     + Updates:
         BZ changes   1 week    1 month    3 months   12 months
            created     15(3)      71(5)     118(5)      333(0)
          commented     15(-44)   192(-34)   441(-10)   1683(-19)
           resolved      4(-1)     27(0)      60(2)      202(1)
     + top 10 contributors:
           Rafael Lima made 102 changes in 1 month, and 365 changes in 1 year
           Olivier Hallot made 80 changes in 1 month, and 557 changes in 1 year
           Ilmari Lauhakangas made 31 changes in 1 month, and 116 changes in 1 year
           Seth Chaiklin made 18 changes in 1 month, and 186 changes in 1 year
           Heiko Tietze made 15 changes in 1 month, and 86 changes in 1 year
           gmarco made 13 changes in 1 month, and 26 changes in 1 year
           Nabet, Julien made 12 changes in 1 month, and 62 changes in 1 year
           Kaganski, Mike made 10 changes in 1 month, and 96 changes in 1 year
           Dieter made 8 changes in 1 month, and 114 changes in 1 year
           Nucleos made 8 changes in 1 month, and 8 changes in 1 year

* UX Update (Heiko)
     + Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
         258(258) (topicUI) bugs open, 115(115) (needsUXEval) needs to be evaluated by the UXteam
     + Updates:
         BZ changes   1 week    1 month   3 months   12 months
              added      6(-3)     12(1)     19(-4)      68(-7)
          commented     59(-24)   243(34)   655(7)     2805(-92)
            removed      1(-1)      4(1)     10(1)       36(0)
           resolved     17(11)     47(14)   102(14)     403(4)
     + top 10 contributors:
           Heiko Tietze made 243 changes in 1 month, and 1916 changes in 1 year
           Foote, V Stuart made 53 changes in 1 month, and 495 changes in 1 year
           Seth Chaiklin made 31 changes in 1 month, and 134 changes in 1 year
           Kaganski, Mike made 19 changes in 1 month, and 163 changes in 1 year
           Timur made 16 changes in 1 month, and 114 changes in 1 year
           Telesto made 15 changes in 1 month, and 296 changes in 1 year
           MarjaE made 13 changes in 1 month, and 20 changes in 1 year
           Ilmari Lauhakangas made 10 changes in 1 month, and 306 changes in 1 year
           Dieter made 9 changes in 1 month, and 250 changes in 1 year
           BogdanB made 8 changes in 1 month, and 92 changes in 1 year
     + 7 new tickets with needsUXEval Jan/28-Feb-03
       + [Bug 140394] There should be a warning, if print range would exceed the
              maximum number of rows
       + [Bug 147098] Should "Region" field be missing in Options -> Libreoffice ->
              User Data? (or is label wrong?)
       + [Bug 147107] change "chapter" to "item" in Bullet and Numbering bar
       + [Bug 146906] Keyboard shortcut conflict: Ctrl+F5
       + [Bug 146762] Demote level of first list item with tab (and promote
              with shift+tab) and introduce ctrl+shift+tab to indent the whole list
       + [Bug 147071] Please automatically insert the Right Single Quote character
              when a word has a missing first syllable
   ->  + [Bug 147042] Manage Changes sidebar in Writer no longer needs to be
              an experimental feature
              + created by Kendy, no objection

* Crash Testing (Caolan)
     + 15(+0) import failure, 6(-1) export failures
     + 11 coverity issues
       - vm os rebase
     + 10 ossfuzz issues
       - one new fuzzer for webp, already found a (trivial) problem

* Crash Reporting (Xisco)
    + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/7.1.8.1
          + (+64) 1154 1090 1014 907 493 137 0
    + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/7.2.4.1
          + (-92) 963 1055 1239 1783 1606 370 0
    + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/7.2.5.2
          + (+252) 1860 1608 1246 691 0
    + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/7.3.0.3
          + (+347) 347 0

    + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/signature/_GLOBAL__sub_I_protectiondlg.cxx.lto_priv.2643

        - 7.3.0.3 on linux

        - https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=147135

        - can reproduce something similar (Olivier)

           + Lubuntu fresh install + TDF deb packages

    + AVX / Linux-only crash, specific to Calc (Thorsten)
      - has a pending gerrit change for libreoffice-7-3

* Mentoring/EasyHack update (Hossein)
           committer...   1 week     1 month     3 months    12 months
                   open      76(-4)     110(-12)    156(-15)     214(-12)
                reviews     400(-14)   1368(0)     3424(52)    11576(234)
                 merged     353(26)    1316(80)    4011(-64)   14151(344)
              abandoned      14(3)       66(-2)     184(3)       658(13)
            own commits     275(-10)   1074(36)    3100(-92)   12691(23)
         review commits      65(-29)    300(-43)    973(-60)    4064(-45)
         contributor...   1 week     1 month     3 months    12 months
                   open      19(4)       59(5)      103(-1)      198(-2)
                reviews     916(50)    3074(64)    8804(-78)   31440(686)
                 merged      17(-13)     65(-34)    288(-23)    1550(15)
              abandoned       4(2)       14(-9)      48(-3)      417(4)
            own commits      14(-22)     67(-64)    421(-37)    1795(-42)
         review commits       0(0)        0(0)        0(0)         0(0)
     + easyHack statistics:
        needsDevEval 8(8)   needsUXEval 1(1)   cleanup_comments 287(287)
        total 339(339)   assigned 29(29)   open 281(281)
     + top 10 contributors:
           Johnny_M made 26 patches in 1 month, and 906 patches in 1 year
           Po-Yen Huang made 4 patches in 1 month, and 11 patches in 1 year
           Dhiraj Holden made 4 patches in 1 month, and 6 patches in 1 year
           Vaibhav Malik made 4 patches in 1 month, and 8 patches in 1 year
           Attila Bakos made 3 patches in 1 month, and 29 patches in 1 year
           Nagy Tibor made 2 patches in 1 month, and 34 patches in 1 year
           Kevin Suo made 2 patches in 1 month, and 32 patches in 1 year
           Ramreiso Kashung made 2 patches in 1 month, and 5 patches in 1 year
           Olivier R made 2 patches in 1 month, and 2 patches in 1 year
           Thomas, Daniel made 1 patches in 1 month, and 2 patches in 1 year
     + top 10 reviewers:
           Adolfo Jayme Barrientos made 128 review comments in 1 month, and 862 in 1 year
           Thorsten Behrens made 114 review comments in 1 month, and 656 in 1 year
           Michael Stahl made 98 review comments in 1 month, and 930 in 1 year
           Olivier Hallot made 98 review comments in 1 month, and 1244 in 1 year
           Nabet, Julien made 78 review comments in 1 month, and 468 in 1 year
           Kaganski, Mike made 74 review comments in 1 month, and 770 in 1 year
           Vajna, Miklos made 68 review comments in 1 month, and 558 in 1 year
           Rathke, Eike made 60 review comments in 1 month, and 294 in 1 year
           Xisco Fauli made 58 review comments in 1 month, and 804 in 1 year
           Heiko Tietze made 48 review comments in 1 month, and 262 in 1 year
     + big CONGRATULATIONS to contributors who have at least 1 merged patch, since last report:
           Rashesh Padia (Collabora)
           Yalda Eftekhari

   + 2 new contributors
   + 17 merged commits from the new contributors (all code related)
   + Should we accept commits from authors without email?
     https://git.libreoffice.org/core/commit/5e8ceac64b66d1298037b939350d3adb86b37752
     + not ideal, but have a license statement (Caolan)
   + have a WIP blog post to explain how to add a new UNO command
     + the topic is more complex, compared to previous blog posts+
     + meant to help newbies who completed trivial easy hacks but have a hard time to get to more challenging problems
     + check out the similar slides Bubli had at a past conference (Heiko)

* Commit Access
   + None

* Developer Certification (Stephan/Kendy/Thorsten/László)
   + resting since: 5 weeks (limit: 20 weeks)

* Jenkins / CI update (Cloph)
     from:Thu Jan 27 15:07:11 2022
     master linux rel  jobs: 137 ok: 132 ko:   5 fail ratio:  3.65 % break:   3 broken duration: 2.49%
     master linux dbg  jobs: 117 ok: 104 ko:  13 fail ratio: 11.11 % break:   7 broken duration: 9.63%
     master mac rel    jobs: 104 ok: 104 ko:   0 fail ratio:  0.00 % break:   0 broken duration: 0.00%
     master mac dbg    jobs: 104 ok: 103 ko:   1 fail ratio:  0.96 % break:   1 broken duration: 0.26%
     master win rel    jobs:  91 ok:  90 ko:   1 fail ratio:  1.10 % break:   1 broken duration: 0.49%
     master win dbg    jobs:  92 ok:  90 ko:   2 fail ratio:  2.17 % break:   1 broken duration: 0.43%
     master win64 dbg  jobs:  93 ok:  91 ko:   2 fail ratio:  2.15 % break:   2 broken duration: 0.80%
     master gerrit lin jobs: 708 ok: 575 ko:  90 fail ratio: 12.71% time for ok: mean:  20 median:  16
     master gerrit plg jobs: 648 ok: 415 ko: 186 fail ratio: 28.70% time for ok: mean:  42 median:  40
     master gerrit win jobs: 834 ok: 360 ko: 392 fail ratio: 47.00% time for ok: mean:  69 median:  66
     master gerrit mac jobs: 715 ok: 536 ko: 121 fail ratio: 16.92% time for ok: mean:  30 median:  26
     master android    jobs: 634 ok: 557 ko:  37 fail ratio:  5.84% time for ok: mean:  21 median:  16
     master gerrit all jobs: 748 ok: 245 ko: 421 fail ratio: 56.28% time for ok: mean:  86 median:  76
    + https://dev-www.libreoffice.org/tmp/gerrit_220203.html
    + tests failing more than twice in last seven days
       3 CppunitTest_chart2_dump                gerrit_linux_gcc_release
       3 CppunitTest_sc_subsequent_filters_test2                gerrit_linux_gcc_release
       3 CppunitTest_sc_uicalc                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
       3 CppunitTest_tools_test                gerrit_windows
       3 UITest_sw_sidebar                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
       4 CppunitTest_sd_uiimpress                gerrit_mac
       4 UITest_calc_tests9                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
       4 UITest_chapterNumbering                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
       4 UITest_writer_tests5                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
       5 UITest_impress_demo                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
       5 UITest_signatureLine                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
       6 CppunitTest_sd_png_export_tests                gerrit_mac
       6 UITest_writer_tests3                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
       9 CppunitTest_sc_macros_test                gerrit_windows
      13 CppunitTest_sw_uiwriter3                gerrit_linux_gcc_release
      17 Killed by the kill-wrapper                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
   + foo.component failures are a huge pain for windows
   + Windows is suffering from the ".component" failures (Cloph)
     + 56% of builds fail with this, really painful
     + is that the problematic commit from the wasm upstraming? (Miklos)
       + probably related (Cloph)
       + not the root cause but triggered the problem (Thorsten)
         + Michael S was looking at that briefly
         + let's revert it if we don't find a solution soon
   + can try to reduce the parallelism on the Windows builders (Cloph)
     + not sure if that will help
   + might be also related to building from scratch all the time (Stephan)
     + devs usually do incremental builds locally
AI: try to revert in a gerrit change and see if it really helps (Cloph)

* l10n (Sophie)
   + master po templates are now reflecting master (Cloph)

* FOSDEM 2022 (Italo)
   + this weekend!
   + lightning talk slot can happen (Thorsten)
     + if you have something cool to show, then send a video link to Thorsten
     + 2 mins of latest news is still OK
     + till Sunday 12:00 UTC to thb at libreoffice.org

* What’s cooking (Miklos)
    + LODE improvements (ohallot)
        + 'git clone' of core/ brings full core/ history and is >Gbytes
        + same (and worse) for translations/
          + 12 hours for Olivier
        + can we amend with '--depth=NN' to shorten download times? (OH)
            + easier for dev newbies
            + NN=100 allows reducing the core.git size to <1GB
        + need advise from expert
        + certainly makes sense for submodules (Cloph)
          + less so for core.git if you want to switch branches
       + https://dev-www.libreoffice.org/bundles/ solves the "intrerrupted at 99%" problem (Miklos)
       + translations.git is the real problem: 8GB (Eike)
         + core.git 2.7GB
         + translation updates download took 2 hours the last time tried
       + think it's a mix of problems (Thorsten)
         + for non-EU, github is much faster to clone from
         + in EU, grabbing the tarballs is perhaps the quickest
           + maybe mirror that?
         + maybe lode.git should default to cloning translations.git in a shallow way?
     + would solve this by building in the cloud (Hossein)
       + e.g. github codespace, with visual studio code
       + build is done remotely, but vs code runs locally
       + Good for people with slow connection and slow computers
     + if you stick to the default options, you don't get translations.git (Stephan)
     + would like to make it easy to do a shallow clone of submodules (Olivier)
AI: file a bug / easy hack on this (Olivier)
       + maybe we could make it the default for submodules (Cloph)
         + can we still opt in to get the full history? (Stephan)
           + think so (Miklos)
AI: enable shallow clone for submodules by default (Cloph)

* QA update (Xisco)

     + UNCONFIRMED: 1683 (+16)
         + enhancements: 262  (+2)
         + needsUXEval: 7 (+1)
         + haveBackTrace: 5 (+0)
         + needsDevAdvice: 26 (-1)
         + documentation:  4 (-7)
         + android:  1 (+0)
         + iOS:  0 (+0)
         + Online:  10 (+0)

     + Most pressing bugs:
      New:
          None
      Old:
         + Slow typing with version 7.1 or above on Windows 11
             + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=145963
             + Lubos?
             + seems to be Windows 11-only

         + macOS: Can't save or open files using Finder dialog on Standard accounts on macOS 10.15 Catalina
            + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128233
            + started to happen with a new macOS version

         + Text runs of RTL scripts (e.g. Arabic, Hebrew, Persian) from
           imported PDF are reversed, PDFIProcessor::mirrorString not behaving
             + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=104597
             + already listed here for 2 years, and many duplicates
     Fixed:


     + New high severity bugs of the week:
         + Empty/white pages when printing (skia)
             + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=146842
             + Only on master, https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/129290 disabled skia-on-macOS by default on 7.3

* QA stats
     + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
       +126  +16 (-140) overall)
       many thanks to the top bug squashers:
        Heiko Tietze            18
        Timur                   17
        Buovjaga                7
        Caolán McNamara         7
        QA Administrators       7
        Gabor Kelemen (allotropia) 6
        Eike Rathke             5
        Julien Nabet            5
        Justin L                4
        Noel Grandin            4

     + top 10 bugs reporters:
        7p1pj7ym@anonaddy.me 4
        Telesto                 4
        Xisco Faulí             4
        Gabor Kelemen (allotropia) 3
        Kevin Suo               2
        Mike Kaganski           2
        Rafael Lima             2
        SheetJS                 2
        Sorin Boris             2
        cjdg                    2

     + top 10 bugs fixers:
        McNamara, Caolán        7
        Heiko Tietze            6
        Rathke, Eike            5
        Grandin, Noel           4
        Justin Luth             4
        Aron Budea              3
        Nabet, Julien           3
        Timur                   3
        Hossein                 2
        Le Grand, Armin         2

     + top 10 bugs confirmers:
        Ilmari Lauhakangas      11
        Olivier Hallot          8
        Roman Kuznetsov         8
        Xisco Fauli             8
        Dieter                  7
        Raal                    7
        Timur                   6
        Nabet, Julien           4
        Ezinne Nnamani          3
        Heiko Tietze            3


* Highest-Priority bugs (aka "MABs"):
    + http://bit.ly/2lJAAJI
      6.0 : 1/53 -     1 %  (+0)
      5.4 : 0/41 -     0 %  (+0)
      5.3 : 0/54 -     0 %  (+0)
      5.2 : 0/43 -     0 %  (+0)
      5.1 : 1/36 -     2 %  (+0)
      5.0 : 0/64 -     0 %  (+0)
      4.4 : 0/76 -     0 %  (+0)
      4.3 : 0/73 -     0 %  (+0)
      4.2 : 2/134 -    1 %  (+0)
      4.1 : 3/85 -     3 %  (+0)
      4.0 : 2/83 -     2 %  (+0)
      old : 2/247 -    0 %  (+0)


* Bisected bugs open: keyword 'bisected'
    + more accurate - down to a single commit.
    + http://bit.ly/2dyIfDy
    +

      done by:
         Raal                   5
         Xisco Fauli            5
         Roman Kuznetsov        2
         deepoose2011           2
         Telesto                2
         Aron Budea             1
         Ilmari Lauhakangas     1


* Bibisected bugs open: keyword 'bibisected'
    + http://bit.ly/2cSCXlS
    +

      done by:
         Raal                   5
         Xisco Fauli            5
         Roman Kuznetsov        2
         deepoose2011           2
         Telesto                2
         Aron Budea             1
         Ilmari Lauhakangas     1
         Kevin Suo              1


* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
    + 1293(-11) bugs open of 11540(+19) total 13(+1) high prio.

      done by:
         Xisco Fauli            5
         Raal                   4
         Roman Kuznetsov        2
         Németh, László         2
         Telesto                2
         Ilmari Lauhakangas     1
         Faure, Jean-Baptiste   1


* ~Component   count net * high severity regressions
    + http://bit.ly/1HWHb3E
      Writer        - 8(+0)
      LibreOffice   - 2(+0)
      Calc          - 1(+0)
      Draw          - 1(+0)
      Printing and PDF export - 1(+1)

    by OS:
      All           - 10(+0)
      Linux         - 0(+0)
      Mac OS X      - 0(+0)
      Windows       - 2(+0)


* ~Component   count net * all regressions
    + http://bit.ly/1BUdI8i
      Writer: other            - 441(-3)
      Calc                     - 220(-1)
      Impress                  - 130(-3)
      Writer: docx filter      - 56(+0)
      LibreOffice              - 51(+1)
      Crashes                  - 49(+2)
      UI                       - 47(-2)
      Draw                     - 46(+0)
      Borders                  - 41(+0)
      Writer: perf             - 37(-1)
      Writer: other filter     - 35(-2)
      Base                     - 34(-1)
      Chart                    - 30(+0)
      RTL                      - 26(-2)
      Printing and PDF export  - 22(+0)
      Writer: doc filter       - 22(+0)
      graphics stack           - 21(-1)
      BASIC                    - 18(+0)
      filters and storage      - 16(-1)
      Formula Editor           - 2(+0)
      framework                - 1(+0)
      sdk                      - 1(+0)


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