ESC meeting minutes: 2022-05-26

Michael Weghorn m.weghorn at posteo.de
Tue Jun 7 08:04:09 UTC 2022


On 31/05/2022 12.01, Colomban Wendling wrote:
> * Only on-screen elements of the document are exposed to ATs.  This is 
> on purpose probably for performance (not sure if we have any numbers to 
> base it on?) so elements are lazy-loaded and destroyed, but it has 
> non-trivial impact on various AT features.  There are some things 
> supposed to help mitigate the issues (like flows-from and flows-to 
> relationships), but they present their own sets of issues (like some 
> elements from there not having proper parent/child relationships, etc.).

tdf#35652 [1] ("ACC: AT-SPI accessible tree omits objects which are not 
visible on the screen.") sounds like a related bug report here.

> * Some relations are missing, like for annotations and footnotes.

There's e.g. tdf#96481 ("Connect annotations to the paragraphs they 
describe").

> Also there is a lack of semantics for change tracking leading to messy output 
> from ATs.

There's e.g. tdf#96487 ("Expose tracked changes to ATs via accessible 
objects and attributes").

I have added links to those tickets to the wiki page [2] as well.

[1] https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35652
[2] 
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Under-loved_areas#Document_Level_Accessibility


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