ESC meeting minutes: 2023-08-31
Miklos Vajna
vmiklos at collabora.com
Thu Aug 31 14:40:30 UTC 2023
* Present:
+ Heiko, Olivier, Caolan, Gabriel, Ilmari, Khaled, Michael W, Michael S, Stephan, Cloph, Stephane, Thorsten, Miklos, Gabriel, Eike
* Completed Action Items:
+ Fix gdb pretty-printers on tb99 (Cloph)
+ added the allow line to .gdbinit, also on the other bots as well
* Pending Action Items:
+ Try gtk4 local builds, Qt6 local builds (Cloph)
* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
+ 7.6 status: 7.6.1 rc2 in 1 week?
+ 7.5 status: 7.5.6 rc2 this week, tag was done yesterday
+ update for the impress remote for Android
+ addressing the new play store requirement
+ AI: update the core.git README.md with the new Linux baseline (Cloph)
* Documentation (Olivier)
+ New Help
+ No news
+ Helpcontents2
+ Updates on UI commands (ohallot)
+ Fixes of HIDs x pages (ohallot, R Lima)
+ Q: one help page per UNO command?
+ sounds sensible (Miklos)
+ would be good to find an example to follow that plays nicely with the help (Miklos)
+ ScriptForge updates (R. Lima)
+ Note: Python Help support since long time.
+ Guides
+ New books from Spanish Com'ty in bookshelf (JC. Sanz)
+ Time to review book template, branding for 24's
+ "Plain English" debate (Rob Thornton)
+ Bugzilla Documentation statistics
269(269) bugs open
+ Updates:
BZ changes 1 week 1 month 3 months 12 months
created 8(4) 29(-7) 76(-2) 308(0)
commented 15(4) 84(-9) 247(2) 1100(4)
resolved 1(-2) 12(-5) 31(-3) 172(-1)
+ top 10 contributors:
Olivier Hallot made 28 changes in 1 month, and 462 changes in 1 year
Stéphane Guillou made 18 changes in 1 month, and 325 changes in 1 year
Rafael Lima made 16 changes in 1 month, and 163 changes in 1 year
Nabet, Julien made 11 changes in 1 month, and 31 changes in 1 year
Heiko Tietze made 8 changes in 1 month, and 118 changes in 1 year
Wolfgang Jäger made 6 changes in 1 month, and 6 changes in 1 year
Seth Chaiklin made 6 changes in 1 month, and 303 changes in 1 year
Ilmari Lauhakangas made 5 changes in 1 month, and 113 changes in 1 year
Kaganski, Mike made 5 changes in 1 month, and 76 changes in 1 year
*UNKNOWN* made 4 changes in 1 month, and 12 changes in 1 year
* UX Update (Heiko)
+ Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
265(265) (topicUI) bugs open, 59(59) (needsUXEval) needs to be evaluated by the UXteam
+ Updates:
BZ changes 1 week 1 month 3 months 12 months
added 8(8) 10(-4) 22(-1) 53(-1)
commented 66(22) 172(-10) 460(-50) 2421(7)
removed 0(-1) 1(0) 3(-2) 27(0)
resolved 6(-3) 26(-4) 78(1) 330(1)
+ top 10 contributors:
Heiko Tietze made 78 changes in 1 month, and 1440 changes in 1 year
Eyal Rozenberg made 57 changes in 1 month, and 345 changes in 1 year
Stéphane Guillou made 42 changes in 1 month, and 450 changes in 1 year
خالد حسني made 23 changes in 1 month, and 37 changes in 1 year
Henschel, Regina made 19 changes in 1 month, and 52 changes in 1 year
Kaganski, Mike made 14 changes in 1 month, and 135 changes in 1 year
Bogdan B made 12 changes in 1 month, and 97 changes in 1 year
Roman Kuznetsov made 9 changes in 1 month, and 159 changes in 1 year
Leroy made 9 changes in 1 month, and 14 changes in 1 year
Rafael Lima made 9 changes in 1 month, and 213 changes in 1 year
+ [Bug 157035] Enable Styles import from a master document
+ [Bug 149625] FORMATTING: Pasting a table cell, pastes the source cell in the
upper/actual cell as an inner table cell
+ [Bug 156885] add toggle to show / hide authorship metadata in popup Calc comments
+ [Bug 156454] Indication of which table rows are considered heading rows is
"hidden away" from the user
-> + [Bug 157006] UX review needed for Options - Writer - Compatibility dialog
+ input welcome
-> + [Bug 156925] Add a Color Scheme switcher to the Basic IDE
+ proposal at https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/155928
+ [Bug 156549] New CAD features for cable design
+ [Bug 156939] "Fit height to text" is misleading, only regards growing rather
than shrinking
+ [Bug 156942] "Fit width to text" shouldn't default to "extend width to fit whole
paragraph on a single line"
+ [Bug 156964] Support idiom of title bar moving up or down according to
main box contents
+ [Bug 156507] Ability to remove non-printing/"atypical" characters in a stretch
of text
* Crash Testing (Caolan)
+ 14(+0) import failure, 0(+0) export failures
- just 1 calc parallel issue remaining
- everything else is writer now, 1 odt, 11 docx
+ 3 coverity issues
- fixes submitted
+ 1 ossfuzz issues
- a timeout. Such low failures is a bit suspicious IMO.
* Crash Reporting (Xisco)
+ Missing Xisco
+ 7.5.4.2 14047(+887)
+ 7.5.5.2 7781(+1560)
+ 7.6.0.2 97(+3)
+ 7.6.0.3 1561(+1340)
* Mentoring (Hossein)
+ Missing Hossein
committer... 1 week 1 month 3 months 12 months
open 69(-5) 119(-18) 184(-7) 224(-7)
reviews 518(276) 1404(124) 3310(186) 11422(278)
merged 270(79) 1070(58) 3340(40) 12827(99)
abandoned 17(9) 58(7) 143(9) 644(9)
own commits 146(7) 669(2) 2100(-13) 10058(-46)
review commits 80(50) 207(29) 644(31) 3087(43)
contributor... 1 week 1 month 3 months 12 months
open 20(-14) 48(-14) 75(-11) 96(-10)
reviews 750(144) 2844(80) 7738(96) 31560(18)
merged 47(41) 71(27) 210(35) 2389(-45)
abandoned 3(1) 163(3) 181(2) 616(1)
own commits 38(30) 75(22) 222(26) 1092(24)
review commits 0(0) 0(0) 0(0) 0(0)
+ easyHack statistics:
needsDevEval 8(8) needsUXEval 1(1) cleanup_comments 328(328)
total 404(404) assigned 18(18) open 358(358)
+ top 10 contributors:
Dipam Turkar made 26 patches in 1 month, and 48 patches in 1 year
Armin Le Grand (allotropia) made 5 patches in 1 month, and 78 patches in 1 year
Stéphane Guillou made 4 patches in 1 month, and 29 patches in 1 year
Ahmed Eltokhy made 3 patches in 1 month, and 12 patches in 1 year
NOGATA, Jun made 2 patches in 1 month, and 2 patches in 1 year
Colomban Wendling made 2 patches in 1 month, and 21 patches in 1 year
Quentin PAGÈS made 2 patches in 1 month, and 2 patches in 1 year
Sahil Gautam made 2 patches in 1 month, and 5 patches in 1 year
jucasaca made 2 patches in 1 month, and 4 patches in 1 year
Matt K made 1 patches in 1 month, and 5 patches in 1 year
+ top 10 reviewers:
Caolán McNamara made 158 review comments in 1 month, and 416 in 1 year
Vajna, Miklos made 140 review comments in 1 month, and 882 in 1 year
Michael Stahl made 136 review comments in 1 month, and 1144 in 1 year
Nabet, Julien made 102 review comments in 1 month, and 986 in 1 year
Vajngerl, Tomaž made 98 review comments in 1 month, and 424 in 1 year
Kaganski, Mike made 92 review comments in 1 month, and 394 in 1 year
Thorsten Behrens made 88 review comments in 1 month, and 442 in 1 year
Grandin, Noel made 76 review comments in 1 month, and 620 in 1 year
Xisco Fauli made 62 review comments in 1 month, and 752 in 1 year
Olivier Hallot made 42 review comments in 1 month, and 322 in 1 year
+ Patches automatically abandoned:
WIP out-of-tree android build ( Thorsten Behrens )
- https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/105470
Don't clobber SRCDIR with APK result ( Thorsten Behrens )
- https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/105471
+ big CONGRATULATIONS to contributors who have at least 1 merged patch, since last report:
Tobias Kokolakis
* GSoC (Ilmari/Thorsten)
+ this week: Mentors submit final contributor evaluations (standard coding period)
+ deadline is next Monday
* Outreachy (Ilmari)
+ https://www.outreachy.org/ -- Applied with two intern slots
+ Mentor sign up deadline September 29: looking for mentors
+ https://www.outreachy.org/communities/cfp/libreoffice/
+ Project timeline is Dec -> March
+ last year it sounded like the mentoring was not ideal (Miklos)
+ any hope to improve on that this year?
+ tried to rescue the project last year (Thorsten)
+ hope to have e.g. Jim as mentor (Heiko)
* Commit Access
* Developer Certification (Stephan/Miklos/Thorsten/László)
+ resting since: 20 weeks (limit: 20 weeks)
* Jenkins / CI update (Cloph)
gerrit_android_aarch64 jobs: 129 ok: 123 ko: 4 fail ratio: 3.10% mean_ok: 7 ( 10) median_ok: 5 ( 6)
gerrit_android_arm jobs: 129 ok: 125 ko: 3 fail ratio: 2.33% mean_ok: 9 ( 11) median_ok: 5 ( 7)
gerrit_android_x86 jobs: 129 ok: 123 ko: 5 fail ratio: 3.88% mean_ok: 7 ( 9) median_ok: 5 ( 7)
gerrit_android_x86_64 jobs: 129 ok: 125 ko: 1 fail ratio: 0.78% mean_ok: 8 ( 10) median_ok: 5 ( 7)
gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil jobs: 408 ok: 242 ko: 147 fail ratio: 36.03% mean_ok: 33 ( 36) median_ok: 27 ( 33)
gerrit_linux_gcc_release jobs: 258 ok: 246 ko: 7 fail ratio: 2.71% mean_ok: 14 ( 16) median_ok: 12 ( 13)
gerrit_mac jobs: 273 ok: 215 ko: 48 fail ratio: 17.58% mean_ok: 44 ( 44) median_ok: 41 ( 41)
gerrit_windows jobs: 276 ok: 227 ko: 40 fail ratio: 14.49% mean_ok: 55 ( 66) median_ok: 46 ( 47)
gerrit_master_ml jobs: 424 ok: 182 ko: 216 fail ratio: 50.94% mean_ok: 88 ( 88) median_ok: 83 ( 84)
gerrit_master jobs: 54 ok: 28 ko: 22 fail ratio: 40.74% mean_ok: 54 ( 54) median_ok: 47 ( 47)
gerrit_master_seq jobs: 374 ok: 157 ko: 195 fail ratio: 52.14% mean_ok: 92 ( 93) median_ok: 87 ( 87)
+ https://dev-www.libreoffice.org/tmp/gerrit_230831.html
+ tests that failed more than twice in last seven days
3 CppunitTest_framework_dispatch gerrit_windows
3 CppunitTest_sw_mailmerge2 gerrit_windows
4 CppunitTest_oox_export gerrit_windows
4 CppunitTest_sd_uiimpress gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
4 CppunitTest_starmath_qa_cppunit gerrit_windows
4 CppunitTest_vcl_gtk3_a11y gerrit_linux_gcc_release
4 JunitTest_chart2_unoapi gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
4 PythonTest_sw_python gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
6 CppunitTest_vcl_gtk3_a11y gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
7 CppunitTest_chart2_import gerrit_mac
8 CppunitTest_sc_dataprovider gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
8 UITest_calc_tests8 gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
8 UITest_sw_fieldDialog gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
10 CppunitTest_sc_statistical_functions_test gerrit_windows
28 UITest_sw_navigator gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
35 UITest_inputLine gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
36 Killed by the kill-wrapper gerrit_mac
63 Killed by the kill-wrapper gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
+ had a high number of failures this week (Cloph)
+ flip side: ML has obvious improvements on average build time
+ ML job currently uses clang/dbgutil
+ replace the "canary" build with gcc/release? (Miklos)
+ feedback on ML? (Thorsten)
+ to the setup in general?
+ to the current config of the setup?
+ clang failures are now more visible because that's the canary one (Cloph)
+ use jenkins:all (as gerrit topic) to force the old 6 builds in parallel behaviour
+ most of my failures are unrelated to to the changes I do (Khaled)
+ a stuck UITest is not very helpful to see if other platforms fail or not
+ having a more stable canary build would have more chance to be useful
AI: try to switch from clang to gcc as an experiment (Cloph)
* What’s cooking (Miklos)
+ C++20 (Stephan)
+ multi-page floating tables in Writer, see tdf#155118 for details (Miklos)
+ JDK bump to 17 (Michael W)
+ https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/155377
+ https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/155827
+ waiting for JDK 17 to be installed on builders (for Cloph)
+ the Linux builders should have it installed by now
+ Right-to-left math layout and other Math improvements (Khaled)
+ https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/q/topic:math-rtl-layout (7 patches)
+ Considering graduating visual/inline editing mode out of experimental features, any objection?
+ helps RTL, mixing commands + RTL symbols would be messy
+ plan to submit a change to make it non-experimental
+ a11y (Michael W)
+ fixed announcement of misc popup menus and UNO grid control by NVDA
+ fixed various a11y-related crashes
+ looking into issues with reporting object under mouse pointer
* LibreOffice conference Bucharest 2023 (Gabriel)
+ For those planning to join the conference, please REGISTER as we need this information for organizational reasons: https://conference.libreoffice.org/2023/registration-form/
+ Stopped the registration for the workshop, almost 70 registrans, looks nice.
+ To avoid logistical issues.
+ got extra rooms from the university, overall that's a good result
+ not yet clear if Khaled will visit the conf or not
* QA update (Xisco)
+ UNCONFIRMED: 1226 (+46)
+ enhancements: 283 (+8)
+ needsUXEval: 11 (+4)
+ haveBackTrace: 15 (+1)
+ needsDevAdvice: 36 (+1)
+ documentation: 4 (+0)
+ android: 3 (+0)
+ iOS: 0 (+0)
+ Online: 12 (+0)
+ Most pressing bugs:
New:
Old:
Fixed:
+ New high severity bugs of the week:
+ FIREBIRD: Copying a table from one database file to another gives wrong decimal numbers.
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=156530
+ needs bibisecting
+ will take a look Stephane
* QA stats (Stéphane)
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
+129 -38 (-135) overall)
many thanks to the top bug squashers:
QA Administrators 29
Buovjaga 7
Justin L 7
Heiko Tietze 6
m.a.riosv 6
Gabor Kelemen (allotropia) 5
Jim Raykowski 5
Julien Nabet 5
Michael Stahl (allotropia) 5
Mike Kaganski 5
+ top 10 bugs reporters:
Eyal Rozenberg 11
Gerald Pfeifer 5
Telesto 5
Rafael Lima 4
medmedin2014 4
Hahaha 3
Regina Henschel 3
Timur 3
Hossein 2
Olivier Hallot 2
+ top 10 bugs fixers:
Jim Raykowski 4
Justin Luth 4
Michael Stahl 4
Patrick Luby 4
Grandin, Noel 3
Heiko Tietze 3
Kaganski, Mike 2
Samuel Mehrbrodt 2
Ahmed Eltokhy 1
Andreas Heinisch 1
+ top 10 bugs confirmers:
m.a.riosv 9
*UNKNOWN* 4
Heiko Tietze 4
Stéphane Guillou 4
Kelemen, Gabor 3
Patrick Luby 2
ady 2
Alora Eve 1
Faisal 1
Henschel, Regina 1
* Bisected bugs open: keyword 'bisected'
+ more accurate - down to a single commit.
+ http://bit.ly/2dyIfDy
+
done by:
Raal 3
Kelemen, Gabor 2
Timur 2
* Bibisected bugs open: keyword 'bibisected'
+ http://bit.ly/2cSCXlS
+
done by:
Raal 3
Kelemen, Gabor 2
Timur 2
* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
+ 1174(-9) bugs open of 12739(+3) total 11(+0) high prio.
done by:
Gerald Pfeifer 1
steve 1
* ~Component count net * high severity regressions
+ http://bit.ly/1HWHb3E
Writer - 7(+0)
Calc - 3(+0)
LibreOffice - 1(+0)
by OS:
All - 7(+0)
Linux - 2(+0)
Mac OS X - 0(+0)
Windows - 2(+0)
* ~Component count net * all regressions
+ http://bit.ly/1BUdI8i
Writer: other - 404(-9)
Calc - 216(+0)
Impress - 133(+0)
LibreOffice - 50(+0)
Draw - 44(+0)
Crashes - 43(+1)
Base - 42(+0)
Writer: docx filter - 41(+1)
Borders - 34(+0)
UI - 32(-1)
Writer: other filter - 31(+0)
Writer: perf - 31(+0)
Printing and PDF export - 23(+0)
RTL - 23(+0)
Chart - 22(+0)
BASIC - 18(+0)
filters and storage - 16(+0)
Writer: doc filter - 15(+1)
graphics stack - 12(-2)
Formula Editor - 4(+0)
framework - 4(+0)
Extensions - 2(+0)
sdk - 2(+0)
Linguistic - 1(+0)
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