ESC meeting minutes: 2023-01-05

Miklos Vajna vmiklos at collabora.com
Thu Jan 5 15:46:49 UTC 2023


* Present:
     + Stephan, Michael S, Ilmari, Heiko, Michael W, Olivier, Thorsten, Miklos, Kendy, Eike, Stephane

* Completed Action Items:

* Pending Action Items:
   + backport the touchpad changes (Xisco)

* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
     + Missing Cloph.
     + 7.4 status: 7.4.4 to be released next week?
     + 7.5 status: rc2 to be tagged next week?
       * Late features
         + reverting a patch https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/145007 (Heiko)
         + ran into an unexpected problems, much more complicated than originally expected, best to revert
         + have no concerns (Thorsten, Miklos)
         + (Stéphane) this string change needs a post-string freeze follow-up or revert for 7.5, as it makes the problem worse: https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/136851 (see my comment in https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=101731#c22 )

           + goal was to improve things, but after the change it seems the current state is worse

           + propose to go back to the original state for 7.5


* Documentation (Olivier)
     + New Help
        + Changes in makefiles, speed-up build (cloph)
     + Helpcontents
        + Improvements in Content Control (ohallot)
          + also seeing some menu item renames (Heiko)
          + help is for master only, no conflict here (Olivier)
        + Same on cell addressing (ohallot)
        + Updates and fixes (stragu, S. Horacek, B. Buzea, erack, buovjaga)
     + Guides
        + Stalled
     + Bugzilla Documentation statistics
         249(249) bugs open
     + Updates:
         BZ changes   1 week   1 month   3 months   12 months
            created     10(5)    29(-3)     92(-1)     316(-5)
          commented     10(7)    65(-8)    286(2)     1165(-47)
           resolved      4(4)    13(-2)     48(3)      195(-2)
     + top 10 contributors:
           Bogdan B made 27 changes in 1 month, and 174 changes in 1 year
           Olivier Hallot made 26 changes in 1 month, and 469 changes in 1 year
           Stéphane Guillou made 17 changes in 1 month, and 66 changes in 1 year
           Ilmari Lauhakangas made 14 changes in 1 month, and 99 changes in 1 year
           Kaganski, Mike made 12 changes in 1 month, and 118 changes in 1 year
           Adolfo Jayme Barrientos made 7 changes in 1 month, and 38 changes in 1 year
           Vernon, Stuart Foote made 7 changes in 1 month, and 16 changes in 1 year
           Dieter made 4 changes in 1 month, and 86 changes in 1 year
           Faure, Jean-Baptiste made 4 changes in 1 month, and 4 changes in 1 year
           Alain Romedenne made 2 changes in 1 month, and 33 changes in 1 year

* UX Update (Heiko)
     + Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
         282(282) (topicUI) bugs open, 82(82) (needsUXEval) needs to be evaluated by the UXteam
     + Updates:
         BZ changes   1 week    1 month    3 months   12 months
              added      7(-4)     28(6)      40(6)       73(7)
          commented     18(-58)   224(-23)   532(-35)   2247(9)
            removed      0(0)       4(-1)     10(0)       37(0)
           resolved      2(-2)     19(-1)     67(-5)     300(-2)
     + top 10 contributors:
           Eyal Rozenberg made 92 changes in 1 month, and 282 changes in 1 year
           Heiko Tietze made 81 changes in 1 month, and 1508 changes in 1 year
           Stéphane Guillou made 80 changes in 1 month, and 100 changes in 1 year
           Vernon, Stuart Foote made 66 changes in 1 month, and 170 changes in 1 year
           Kaganski, Mike made 44 changes in 1 month, and 151 changes in 1 year
           Ilmari Lauhakangas made 39 changes in 1 month, and 182 changes in 1 year
           Dieter made 38 changes in 1 month, and 221 changes in 1 year
           maicol figueroa made 31 changes in 1 month, and 31 changes in 1 year
           m.a.riosv made 22 changes in 1 month, and 42 changes in 1 year
           lostbits made 8 changes in 1 month, and 8 changes in 1 year
     + 32 new tickets with needsUXEval

     + Cannot undo typing in Hyperlink dialog
       + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=147783
       + undo/redo within RichTextBox
       => needsDevAdvice
       + probably a bug / not implemented, not intentional (Miklos)

     + Add option to export slides from Impress as SVG without JavaScript
       + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=147776
       + none in ooO.Common.Filter.Graphic.Export.SVG
       => needsDevAdvice
       + think there are 2 export filters (Kendy)
         + old memories, but one is probably meant to be a JS presentation, the other would be SVG export (vector image); save-as vs exprot

     + AutoCorrect DOI (ISO 26324) recognition
       + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=145925
       + autocorrect doi: into http://doi...
       => interesting easyhack
       + arguing this is similar to auto-URL-correct

* Crash Testing (Caolan)
     + Missing Caolan.
     + 105(+4) import failure, 3(+0) export failures
     + ??? coverity issues
     + Google / ossfuzz: ?? fuzzers active now

* Crash Reporting (Xisco)
     + Missing Xisco.
     + 7.4.0.3    21538(+510)
     + 7.4.1.2    25483(+704)
     + 7.4.2.3    26842(+1097)
     + 7.4.3.2    10358(+2457)

* Easyhack update / mentoring (Hossein)
   + Missing Hossein.
           committer...   1 week     1 month      3 months    12 months
                   open      78(24)     153(26)      156(19)      164(20)
                reviews     246(38)    1274(-44)    2928(-54)   11682(-124)
                 merged     132(-55)   1169(-105)   3341(-65)   14496(-88)
              abandoned       6(3)       42(-1)      155(-2)      820(-13)
            own commits      93(-17)    705(-78)    2377(-43)   10911(-125)
         review commits      48(13)     279(2)       841(15)     2920(-60)
         contributor...   1 week    1 month      3 months    12 months
                   open      44(23)     67(9)        69(-2)       84(-3)
                reviews     538(16)   2936(-136)   7520(-74)   31792(-278)
                 merged      11(4)      74(-7)      248(6)       948(-60)
              abandoned       9(8)     142(-22)     257(-1)      568(-1)
            own commits      21(6)     116(0)       367(13)      949(-53)
         review commits       0(0)       0(0)         0(0)         0(0)
     + easyHack statistics:
        needsDevEval 9(9)   needsUXEval 1(1)   cleanup_comments 320(320)
        total 382(382)   assigned 17(17)   open 334(334)
     + top 10 contributors:
           Bogdan B made 16 patches in 1 month, and 85 patches in 1 year
           Patrick Luby made 13 patches in 1 month, and 13 patches in 1 year
           Povilas Kanapickas made 9 patches in 1 month, and 18 patches in 1 year
           Armin Le Grand (allotropia) made 7 patches in 1 month, and 37 patches in 1 year
           Paris Oplopoios made 6 patches in 1 month, and 88 patches in 1 year
             made 5 patches in 1 month, and 25 patches in 1 year
           Galdam Jitsu made 3 patches in 1 month, and 5 patches in 1 year
           Fišeras, Aurimas made 2 patches in 1 month, and 3 patches in 1 year
           Srebotnjak, Martin made 2 patches in 1 month, and 24 patches in 1 year
           Stéphane Guillou made 2 patches in 1 month, and 6 patches in 1 year
     + top 10 reviewers:
           McNamara, Caolán made 144 review comments in 1 month, and 922 in 1 year
           Vajna, Miklos made 114 review comments in 1 month, and 628 in 1 year
           Xisco Fauli made 94 review comments in 1 month, and 846 in 1 year
           Adolfo Jayme Barrientos made 88 review comments in 1 month, and 1036 in 1 year
           Grandin, Noel made 86 review comments in 1 month, and 422 in 1 year
           Michael Stahl made 80 review comments in 1 month, and 1126 in 1 year
           Christian Lohmaier made 64 review comments in 1 month, and 370 in 1 year
           Vajngerl, Tomaž made 60 review comments in 1 month, and 438 in 1 year
           Nabet, Julien made 60 review comments in 1 month, and 792 in 1 year
           Németh, László made 54 review comments in 1 month, and 292 in 1 year
     + Patches automatically abandoned:
         tdf#146429 - Fallback to other character encodings detected by ICU ( Daniel Thomas )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/127539
         tdf#114441 sal_uLong to sal_uInt32 ( Hemant Kumar Singh )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/141607
         tdf#38890 Remove hard-coded URLs in source Files ( Adoche Onaji )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/142005
         Notify entry selection has changed on KEY_LEFT ( Jim Raykowski )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/142057
         vcl: extract function Animation::ClearAnimationRenderers() ( Chris Sherlock )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/76423
         vcl: extract Animation function CreateDefaultRenderer() ( Chris Sherlock )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/76425
     + big CONGRATULATIONS to contributors who have at least 1 merged patch, since last report:
           Brett T. Warden (intel.com)
           Douglas Guptill (accesswave.ca)

* GSOC (Ilmari)
   + We need more ideas and mentors
   + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/GSoC/Ideas
   + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/GSoC/Ideas_without_a_mentor
   + enough ideas are needed for qualification, please add more! (Ilmari)
   + student sent a mail to the dev list, interested in a DLP filter
   + Heiko tagging bugs which might be a good project
     + have some 55 candidates so far
     + can add them to the "ideas without a mentor" page (Ilmari)

* Commit Access

* Developer Certification (Stephan/Kendy/Thorsten/László)
   + resting since: 13 weeks (limit: 20 weeks)

* Jenkins / CI update (Cloph)
   + frequent Jenkins restarts, but Cloph is aware (Ilmari)

* FOSDEM 2023 (Xisco)
   + Italo is putting together a schedule
     + If you didn't get a mail from Italo, something went wrong (Cloph)

* LibreOffice hackfest in Cambridge (Miklos)
   + as part of COOL days: 28 & 29th March 2023
   + Collabora can fund accommodation for people
   + https://www.collaboraoffice.com/cooldays/ has more info

* ESC budget & projects 2023 (Thorsten, Ilmari)
   + review & update https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Budget2023
   + after that, rank & vote 2023 ESC project proposals
   + need descriptions + estimates
   + Need somebody to run this process
   + Deadline for proposing budget items? (Miklos)
     + in 2-3 weeks, want to have a rough idea by FOSDEM
   + Think perhaps enough ideas are already collected (Ilmari)
     + what was useful last year may not be useful this year, good to re-evaluate (Thorsten)
     + think there is an indifinite amount of useful things to do
   + happy to own this (Ilmari)
     + can help (Stephane)

* What’s cooking (Miklos)
   + Writer number portion formatting improvements (Miklos)
     + now surviving ODT roundtrip, building on top of earlier work from Michael S for DOCX
   + unocast changes (Stephan)
     + at the end fixed differently by implementing dynamic_cast<> in the bridges code
     + so no need to change code outside bridges
     + which means it's now safe to dynamic_cast on UNO objects which might be proxy objects

* QA update (Xisco)
     + UNCONFIRMED: 1616 (+35)
         + enhancements: 300  (+6)
         + needsUXEval: 18 (+7)
         + haveBackTrace: 7 (+0)
         + needsDevAdvice: 33 (+0)
         + documentation:  14 (-1)
         + android:  3 (+0)
         + iOS:  0 (+0)
         + Online:  11 (+0)

     + Most pressing bugs:
      New:
      Old:
      Fixed:

     + New high severity bugs of the week:
         + CRASH: importing ooo84576-1.odt, crashtest; corrupt document structure
             + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=152710
             + Michael S?
             + Dave has some extensive notes in the bug, FWIW

* QA stats (Stephane)
     + Many bug reports by Bogdan about console warnings this week. Majority of triaged ones have been added to the "Console Noise" meta: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=140879. See Bogdan's recent reports: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/buglist.cgi?email1=buzea.bogdan%40libreoffice.org&emailreporter1=1&emailtype1=substring&list_id=1545101&query_format=advanced&resolution=---. Opinion?
     + focus is on a dev build: those warnings, mostly Writer
       + would not bother with backporting such fixes (Miklos)
       + an other view (Thorsten)
         + there is value in fixing warnings
         + but if it generates work for the QA team, that's not optimal
           + let's not misuse triage resources, that's limited
         + not concerned about these bugs (Stephane)
         + have a neutral view: if somebody wants to fix these, no problem (Thorsten)

     + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
       +170  -100 (-119) overall)
       many thanks to the top bug squashers:
        QA Administrators       13
        Stéphane Guillou (stragu) 11
        Buovjaga                9
        Julien Nabet            9
        himajin100000           9
        خالد حسني               8
        V Stuart Foote          7
        Dieter                  5
        Alex Thurgood           4
        Caolán McNamara         4

     + top 10 bugs reporters:
        BogdanB                 52
        Gabor Kelemen (allotropia) 6
        Eyal Rozenberg          4
        lifeline                3
        Alex Thurgood           2
        New Life                2
        New Life Foundations    2
        Philippe                2
        Regina Henschel         2
        Stéphane Guillou (stragu) 2

     + top 10 bugs fixers:
        McNamara, Caolán        4
        Adolfo Jayme Barrientos 3
        Aron Budea              3
        Olivier Hallot          3
        خالد حسني               3
        Grandin, Noel           2
        Lars Jødal              2
                                1
        Eyal Rozenberg          1
        Henschel, Regina        1

     + top 10 bugs confirmers:
        Stéphane Guillou        40
        Ilmari Lauhakangas      11
        Dieter                  9
        m.a.riosv               4
        *UNKNOWN*               3
        McNamara, Caolán        3
        Raal                    3
        Xisco Fauli             3
        Telesto                 2
        Vernon, Stuart Foote    2

* Highest-Priority bugs (aka "MABs"):
    + http://bit.ly/2lJAAJI
      6.0 : 1/53 -     1 %  (+0)
      5.4 : 0/41 -     0 %  (+0)
      5.3 : 0/54 -     0 %  (+0)
      5.2 : 0/43 -     0 %  (+0)
      5.1 : 0/35 -     0 %  (+0)
      5.0 : 0/64 -     0 %  (+0)
      4.4 : 0/76 -     0 %  (+0)
      4.3 : 0/73 -     0 %  (+0)
      4.2 : 2/134 -    1 %  (+0)
      4.1 : 2/85 -     2 %  (+0)
      4.0 : 1/82 -     1 %  (+0)
      old : 1/246 -    0 %  (+0)

* Bisected bugs open: keyword 'bisected'
    + more accurate - down to a single commit.
    + http://bit.ly/2dyIfDy
    +

      done by:
         Stéphane Guillou       3
         Xisco Fauli            3
         Ilmari Lauhakangas     2
         Raal                   1

* Bibisected bugs open: keyword 'bibisected'
    + http://bit.ly/2cSCXlS
    +

      done by:
         Stéphane Guillou       3
         Xisco Fauli            3
         Ilmari Lauhakangas     2
         خالد حسني              1
         Raal                   1

* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
    + 1186(+1) bugs open of 12223(+12) total 8(+0) high prio.

      done by:
         Stéphane Guillou       4
         Xisco Fauli            3
         Ilmari Lauhakangas     2
         Dieter                 1
         Eyal Rozenberg         1
         Alex Thurgood          1
         خالد حسني              1

* ~Component   count net * high severity regressions
    + http://bit.ly/1HWHb3E
      Writer        - 5(+0)
      Calc          - 1(+0)
      Draw          - 1(+0)
      LibreOffice   - 1(+0)

    by OS:
      All           - 7(+0)
      Linux         - 0(+0)
      Mac OS X      - 0(+0)
      Windows       - 1(+0)

* ~Component   count net * all regressions
    + http://bit.ly/1BUdI8i
      Writer: other            - 416(-1)
      Calc                     - 208(+1)
      Impress                  - 119(+1)
      Writer: docx filter      - 57(+0)
      Crashes                  - 51(+0)
      LibreOffice              - 45(-1)
      Draw                     - 42(+1)
      Base                     - 40(+0)
      UI                       - 35(+0)
      Writer: perf             - 35(+0)
      Borders                  - 32(+0)
      Writer: other filter     - 29(+0)
      Chart                    - 24(+0)
      RTL                      - 23(+0)
      Writer: doc filter       - 19(+0)
      BASIC                    - 18(+0)
      Printing and PDF export  - 17(+0)
      filters and storage      - 15(+0)
      graphics stack           - 15(+0)
      Formula Editor           - 3(+0)
      sdk                      - 2(+0)
      framework                - 1(+0)


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