ESC meeting minutes: 2023-01-12

Miklos Vajna vmiklos at collabora.com
Thu Jan 12 15:46:42 UTC 2023


* Present:
     + Gabriel, Heiko, Olivier, Stéphane, Caolan, Cosmin, Hossein, Ilmari, Stephan, Xisco, Miklos, Cloph, Eike, Kendy, Michael S

* Completed Action Items:
   + backport the touchpad changes (Xisco)

* Pending Action Items:

* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
     + 7.4 status: 7.4.4 has been released
       + 7.4.5 in mid-February
     + 7.5 status: rc2 to be tagged this evening
       + rc3 in 2 weeks

      + Skia on mac disable by default (Xisco)

        + Patrick says this needs more cooking time

      + DeepL translator experimental

        + very poor UX, the free plan requires registration & credit card (Olivier)


* Documentation (Olivier)
     + New Help
        + fix LO 7.5 Help build (cloph)
     + Helpcontent2
        + New Help pages: Page numbering, DeepL translation, LanguageTool,  (ohallot)
        + Fixed and updates: (R. Lima, S. Horacek, stragu, erack, fitoshido)
     + Guides
        + Draw Guide 7.4 ready (P. Shofield)
     + Wiki
        + Calc functions updated (S. Fanning)

     + Bugzilla Documentation statistics
         248(248) bugs open
     + Updates:
         BZ changes   1 week   1 month   3 months   12 months
            created     17(7)    34(5)      94(2)      312(-4)
          commented     17(7)    70(5)     291(5)     1144(-21)
           resolved      5(1)    14(1)      46(-2)     193(-2)
     + top 10 contributors:
           Stéphane Guillou made 48 changes in 1 month, and 97 changes in 1 year
           Bogdan B made 28 changes in 1 month, and 178 changes in 1 year
           Ilmari Lauhakangas made 26 changes in 1 month, and 116 changes in 1 year
           Olivier Hallot made 24 changes in 1 month, and 459 changes in 1 year
           Kaganski, Mike made 12 changes in 1 month, and 114 changes in 1 year
           Adolfo Jayme Barrientos made 7 changes in 1 month, and 38 changes in 1 year
           Vernon, Stuart Foote made 7 changes in 1 month, and 16 changes in 1 year
           Faure, Jean-Baptiste made 4 changes in 1 month, and 4 changes in 1 year
           Dieter made 3 changes in 1 month, and 83 changes in 1 year
           Alain Romedenne made 2 changes in 1 month, and 33 changes in 1 year

* UX Update (Heiko)
     + Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
         282(282) (topicUI) bugs open, 69(69) (needsUXEval) needs to be evaluated by the UXteam
     + Updates:
         BZ changes   1 week   1 month    3 months   12 months
              added      6(-1)    18(-10)    31(-9)      65(-8)
          commented     67(49)   217(-7)    527(-5)    2179(-68)
            removed      3(3)      5(1)      13(3)       40(3)
           resolved     10(8)     26(7)      68(1)      295(-5)
     + top 10 contributors:
           Heiko Tietze made 129 changes in 1 month, and 1509 changes in 1 year
           Stéphane Guillou made 60 changes in 1 month, and 89 changes in 1 year
           Vernon, Stuart Foote made 48 changes in 1 month, and 158 changes in 1 year
           Eyal Rozenberg made 47 changes in 1 month, and 237 changes in 1 year
           Kaganski, Mike made 39 changes in 1 month, and 129 changes in 1 year
           maicol figueroa made 31 changes in 1 month, and 31 changes in 1 year
           Dieter made 28 changes in 1 month, and 207 changes in 1 year
           Ilmari Lauhakangas made 26 changes in 1 month, and 169 changes in 1 year
           Rafael Lima made 16 changes in 1 month, and 222 changes in 1 year
           m.a.riosv made 10 changes in 1 month, and 33 changes in 1 year
     + [Bug 152705] SECTION COLUMNS: Wrong text distribution
     + [Bug 152624] LIST STYLES: Numbered Lists in LibreOffice Writer
     + [Bug 152978] Open object preferences or options with F4 (and add
            description to context menus)
     + [Bug 149044] autonumbering and the action which caused it are combined
            into a single undo step
     + [Bug 74078] Attribute "Page Style" in Find and Replace does not work
     + [Bug 150975] View > Navigator (F5) summons a second navigator instead of
            opening the sidebar deck (comment 10)
     + [Bug 89829] Updating character style to match selection does not remove
            direct formatting
     + [Bug 152965] AutoComplete word/sentence/paragraph from other files
     + [Bug 148955] Display the full path name of the .so[cgb] file in the Area dialog
     + [Bug 152905] "Modify..." in Styles sidebar should be "Edit Style..." to
            match rest of UI
  -> + [Bug 152936] Consider adding autocomplete (with full-text search) to
            cell validation
       + the request makes sense (Eike)
     + [Bug 146445] Change behaviour of anchor to character in an empty paragraph
     + [Bug 147656] Presenter console default disable

  -> + [Bug 74078] EDITING: Attribute "Page Style" in Find and Replace does not work
       + sounds sensible to hide it from the UI if it's not working (Miklos)

* Crash Testing (Caolan)
     + 101(-4) import failure, 4(+1) export failures
       + will look at the patterns here
     + 0 coverity issues
     + 7 ossfuzz issues, 1 crash, recent regression, fixed with
      https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/145410

* Crash Reporting (Xisco)
    + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/7.3.7.2
          + (+234) 840 606 533 431 460 855 217 0
    + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/7.4.2.3
          + (-591) 774 1365 1537 1746 2048 1986 1732 1632 1253 650 0
    + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/7.4.3.2
          + (+544) 1790 1246 910 712 0

     + 7.4.4 release

     - void rtl::str::release<_rtl_uString>(_rtl_uString*) should be fixed

     Reverted in 7.4 branch. Fixed in master/7.5 by Noel

     - many nullptr crash fixes. Thanks to Caolán and Xisco


* Easyhack update / mentoring (Hossein)
           committer...   1 week     1 month     3 months    12 months
                   open      98(20)     147(-6)     151(-5)      160(-4)
                reviews     320(74)    1288(14)    2980(52)    11678(-4)
                 merged     247(115)   1146(-23)   3351(10)    14469(-27)
              abandoned      20(14)      43(1)      166(11)      826(6)
            own commits     153(60)     671(-34)   2367(-10)   10830(-81)
         review commits      59(11)     283(4)      849(8)      2918(-2)
         contributor...   1 week     1 month     3 months   12 months
                   open      18(-26)     59(-8)      62(-7)      77(-7)
                reviews     772(234)   2862(-74)   7566(46)   31664(-128)
                 merged      28(17)      85(11)     266(18)     938(-10)
              abandoned       2(-7)     136(-6)     256(-1)     561(-7)
            own commits      28(7)      123(7)      373(6)      970(21)
         review commits       0(0)        0(0)        0(0)        0(0)
     + easyHack statistics:
        needsDevEval 9(9)   needsUXEval 1(1)   cleanup_comments 318(318)
        total 383(383)   assigned 19(19)   open 334(334)
     + top 10 contributors:
           Bogdan B made 12 patches in 1 month, and 86 patches in 1 year
           Patrick Luby made 12 patches in 1 month, and 16 patches in 1 year
           Paris Oplopoios made 9 patches in 1 month, and 92 patches in 1 year
           Povilas Kanapickas made 9 patches in 1 month, and 18 patches in 1 year
           Armin Le Grand (allotropia) made 7 patches in 1 month, and 37 patches in 1 year
             made 6 patches in 1 month, and 27 patches in 1 year
           Stéphane Guillou made 4 patches in 1 month, and 4 patches in 1 year
           Leonid Ryzhov made 3 patches in 1 month, and 5 patches in 1 year
           Srebotnjak, Martin made 2 patches in 1 month, and 26 patches in 1 year
           Stéphane Guillou made 2 patches in 1 month, and 6 patches in 1 year
     + top 10 reviewers:
           Vajna, Miklos made 138 review comments in 1 month, and 624 in 1 year
           McNamara, Caolán made 132 review comments in 1 month, and 932 in 1 year
           Michael Stahl made 102 review comments in 1 month, and 1138 in 1 year
           Xisco Fauli made 98 review comments in 1 month, and 846 in 1 year
           Adolfo Jayme Barrientos made 82 review comments in 1 month, and 1012 in 1 year
           Grandin, Noel made 76 review comments in 1 month, and 432 in 1 year
           Vajngerl, Tomaž made 64 review comments in 1 month, and 434 in 1 year
           Nabet, Julien made 64 review comments in 1 month, and 790 in 1 year
           Christian Lohmaier made 64 review comments in 1 month, and 374 in 1 year
           Hossein made 50 review comments in 1 month, and 274 in 1 year
     + Patches automatically abandoned:
         tdf#117173 Add popup for # of items found/replaced ( Hossein )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/129649

         tools: add Rectangle::IsNormalized() ( Chris Sherlock )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/140525

         tdf#151323 UI: fix typography of en_US menu and dialog window text ( László Németh )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/140941

         lok: ensure to initialize the security context ( Henry Castro )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/142289

   + New dev blog post (Hossein)
     + String types in LibreOffice C/C++ code - part 1 (scheduled to be published tomorrow)
       + https://dev.blog.documentfoundation.org/2023/01/12/string-types-in-libreoffice-c-cpp-code-part-1
       + preview URL: https://dev.blog.documentfoundation.org/?p=116&preview=1&_ppp=7f7c379d65
   + reviewing old easy hacks: help with this is appreciated
     + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/EasyHacks/Review

* GSoC (Ilmari)
   + We need more ideas and mentors
   + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/GSoC/Ideas
   + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/GSoC/Ideas_without_a_mentor
     + this still needs love

* Commit Access

     + Patrick Luby? (Xisco)

     https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/q/owner:plubius%2540neooffice.org

     + support the idea (Kendy, Caolan)

     => no objections

     AI: send the welcome mail to Patrick (Xisco)

     AI: set the commit bit (Cloph)


* Developer Certification (Stephan/Kendy/Thorsten/László)
   + resting since: 14 weeks (limit: 20 weeks)

* Jenkins / CI update (Cloph)
    + builds stats plugin currently disabled due to a XSS vulnerability
    + https://dev-www.libreoffice.org/tmp/gerrit_230112.html
    + tests that failed more than twice in last seven days
       3 CppunitTest_chart2_import                gerrit_mac
       3 CppunitTest_sw_mailmerge                gerrit_windows
       3 CppunitTest_sw_ooxmlexport16                gerrit_linux_gcc_release
       3 JunitTest_toolkit_unoapi_4                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil_branch
       4 JunitTest_forms_unoapi_2                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
      26 JunitTest_toolkit_unoapi_4                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
         + any idea about this? (Caolan)
           + the kill-wrapper couldn't do its work in some cases, probably (Cloph)
      40 Killed by the kill-wrapper                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
   + was a quite bad week: Jenkins had problems
     + it tried to build changes recursively
     + biggest problem is fixed: now there is an additional macOS build
     + queue is now under control
     + huge increase in the builds that are killed by the timeout
     + also larger series of patches pushed, had a negative impact on turnaround time

* FOSDEM 2023 (Xisco)
   + Italo is putting together a schedule
     + If you didn't get a mail from Italo, something went wrong (Cloph)
   + We'll have a hackfest around FOSDEM
     + think it'll be on 6 & 7th Feb (Xisco)

* LibreOffice hackfest in Cambridge (Miklos)
   + as part of COOL days: 28 & 29th March 2023
   + Collabora can fund accommodation for people
   + https://www.collaboraoffice.com/cooldays/ has more info

* ESC budget & projects 2023 (Thorsten, Ilmari)
   + review & update https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Budget2023
     + some people did estimation work on ideas, thanks to them
   + after that, rank & vote 2023 ESC project proposals
   + Missing cost estimate and contact:
     https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Budget2023#Finish_Firebird_implementation
     https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Budget2023#Add_more_combo_chart_types
     https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Budget2023#Migrate_from_Carbon_to_Cocoa_framework_on_Mac
     https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Budget2023#Refactor_font_handling_on_Mac
     https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Budget2023#Document_Comparison_bugs_and_enhancements
     https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Budget2023#Application_Themes_.28formerly_known_as_Mozilla_Persona.29
   + deadline for estimates is the ~next ESC call
     + lets have the ranking around fosdem latest? and then final results 1-2 weeks later (Thorsten)
   + got the sheet from Thorsten (Ilmari)

* What’s cooking (Miklos)
   + X11SalBitmap removal and related cleanups (Caolan)
     + dropping the X11 drawing code, use cairo unconditionally instead
     + brings up towards 32bit bitmaps, one less platform to worry about
     + should help Noel's alpha channel work
     + intention is to keep the 'gen' backend working
   + dead uno bridges (Stephan)
     + gathering data to see what can be removed
     + see https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice/2023-January/089808.html
       + ancient architectures like s390 (not s390x)

* Daily Screenshot Build (Xisco)

     + failing since https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/138381 (Windows dark mode)

     + build is failing since Aug, now bisected

     + perhaps track it in bugzilla (Miklos)


* Cosmin intro
   + invited by Gabriel, from 1&1
   + just curious about how the meeting is going

* QA update (Xisco)
     + UNCONFIRMED: 1566 (-50)
         + enhancements: 296  (-4)
         + needsUXEval: 9 (-9)
         + haveBackTrace: 7 (+0)
         + needsDevAdvice: 32 (-1)
         + documentation:  9 (-5)
         + android:  3 (+0)
         + iOS:  0 (+0)
         + Online:  11 (+0)

     + Most pressing bugs:
      New:

     None


     + New high severity bugs of the week:
         + Envelope dialog: Make dialog more a11y friendly
             + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107625
             + already fixed, thanks to Caolan

         + Notebookbar Tabbed / Compact Tabbed UI style controls stop applying styles after a print preview
             + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=125504
             + not a regression?

* QA stats (Stephane)
     + opinion on new date-time calculation and formatting meta?

         - seeing work on that area

         - most formatting is in the numberformatter, possibly there is a META for that (Eike)

           - https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=111942 "(User-Locale)- [META] User locale bugs and enhancements" (Heiko)


     + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
       +103  +67 (-122) overall)
       many thanks to the top bug squashers:
        Stéphane Guillou (stragu) 17
        QA Administrators       16
        Heiko Tietze            10
        Buovjaga                9
        m.a.riosv               7
        Justin L                5
        Caolán McNamara         4
        Eike Rathke             4
        Mike Kaganski           4
        V Stuart Foote          4

     + top 10 bugs reporters:
        Gabor Kelemen (allotropia) 6
        Regina Henschel         4
        Mike Kaganski           3
        Stéphane Guillou (stragu) 3
        Telesto                 3
        Detlef Girke            2
        steam2                  2
        Andy                    1
        Freddie Witherden       1
        Grobe                   1

     + top 10 bugs fixers:
        Heiko Tietze            5
        Henschel, Regina        3
        McNamara, Caolán        3
        Melenchuk, Vasily       2
        Michael Stahl           2
        Németh, László          2
        Rafael Lima             2
        Rathke, Eike            2
                                1
        *UNKNOWN*               1

     + top 10 bugs confirmers:
        Ilmari Lauhakangas      44
        Stéphane Guillou        24
        Heiko Tietze            12
        m.a.riosv               7
        *UNKNOWN*               6
        Nabet, Julien           4
        Telesto                 4
        Dieter                  3
        Rafael Lima             3
        Vernon, Stuart Foote    3

* Highest-Priority bugs (aka "MABs"):
    + http://bit.ly/2lJAAJI
      6.0 : 1/53 -     1 %  (+0)
      5.4 : 0/41 -     0 %  (+0)
      5.3 : 0/54 -     0 %  (+0)
      5.2 : 0/43 -     0 %  (+0)
      5.1 : 0/35 -     0 %  (+0)
      5.0 : 0/64 -     0 %  (+0)
      4.4 : 0/76 -     0 %  (+0)
      4.3 : 0/73 -     0 %  (+0)
      4.2 : 2/134 -    1 %  (+0)
      4.1 : 2/85 -     2 %  (+0)
      4.0 : 1/82 -     1 %  (+0)
      old : 1/246 -    0 %  (+0)

* Bisected bugs open: keyword 'bisected'
    + more accurate - down to a single commit.
    + http://bit.ly/2dyIfDy
    +

      done by:
         Stéphane Guillou       3
         Ilmari Lauhakangas     2
         Raal                   1

* Bibisected bugs open: keyword 'bibisected'
    + http://bit.ly/2cSCXlS
    +

      done by:
         Stéphane Guillou       3
         Ilmari Lauhakangas     2
         Raal                   1

* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
    + 1188(+2) bugs open of 12236(+13) total 8(+0) high prio.

      done by:
         Stéphane Guillou       4
         Rathke, Eike           1
         Ilmari Lauhakangas     1
         Alex Thurgood          1
         m.a.riosv              1
         Telesto                1

* ~Component   count net * high severity regressions
    + http://bit.ly/1HWHb3E
      Writer        - 5(+0)
      Calc          - 1(+0)
      Draw          - 1(+0)
      LibreOffice   - 1(+0)

    by OS:
      All           - 7(+0)
      Linux         - 0(+0)
      Mac OS X      - 0(+0)
      Windows       - 1(+0)

* ~Component   count net * all regressions
    + http://bit.ly/1BUdI8i
      Writer: other            - 419(+3)
      Calc                     - 206(-2)
      Impress                  - 120(+1)
      Writer: docx filter      - 57(+0)
      Crashes                  - 50(-1)
      LibreOffice              - 47(+2)
      Draw                     - 42(+0)
      Base                     - 40(+0)
      UI                       - 37(+2)
      Writer: perf             - 35(+0)
      Borders                  - 32(+0)
      Writer: other filter     - 29(+0)
      Chart                    - 24(+0)
      RTL                      - 23(+0)
      Writer: doc filter       - 19(+0)
      BASIC                    - 18(+0)
      Printing and PDF export  - 17(+0)
      filters and storage      - 15(+0)
      graphics stack           - 14(-1)
      Formula Editor           - 3(+0)
      sdk                      - 2(+0)
      framework                - 1(+0)


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