ESC meeting minutes: 2023-07-06

Miklos Vajna vmiklos at collabora.com
Thu Jul 6 14:41:44 UTC 2023


* Present:
     + Cloph, Caolan, Gabriel, Heiko, Hossein, Ilmari, Thorsten, Michael W, Stephan, Stephane, Eike, Justin, Xisco, Ilmari, Miklos, Olivier, Khaled, Michael S, sockseight

* Completed Action Items:
   + give Jaume commit access (Cloph)
   + send the invite mail to Jaume (Caolan)

* Pending Action Items:

* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
     + 7.6 status: rc1 this week
       + will enter hard freeze for strings and UI
       + from now on libreoffice-7-6 will require 1 review
       + libreoffice-7-6-0 will be only created for rc2
     + 7.5 status: 7.5.5 rc2 next week

* Documentation (Olivier)
     + New Help
         + 24.2 as master in online help
     + Helcontent2
         + updates for Scriptforge (A. Romedenne)
         + Spotlight help page (Nay Catina - NCSD)
         + Updates and fixes (ohallot, A. Gelmini, S, Chaiklin, S. Horacek, JC Sanz)
     + Guides
         + work in progress

     + Bugzilla Documentation statistics
         273(273) bugs open
     + Updates:
         BZ changes   1 week   1 month   3 months   12 months
            created     5(-2)    28(-1)     82(-11)    299(-9)
          commented     1(-26)   67(-6)    197(-55)   1009(-31)
           resolved     0(-1)     5(-1)     31(-6)     165(-7)
     + top 10 contributors:
           Stéphane Guillou made 42 changes in 1 month, and 261 changes in 1 year
           Olivier Hallot made 24 changes in 1 month, and 477 changes in 1 year
           Seth Chaiklin made 12 changes in 1 month, and 302 changes in 1 year
           Kaganski, Mike made 7 changes in 1 month, and 104 changes in 1 year
           Nabet, Julien made 6 changes in 1 month, and 32 changes in 1 year
           Robert Großkopf made 4 changes in 1 month, and 14 changes in 1 year
           Heiko Tietze made 3 changes in 1 month, and 108 changes in 1 year
           Leroy made 3 changes in 1 month, and 3 changes in 1 year
           Eyal Rozenberg made 2 changes in 1 month, and 15 changes in 1 year
           Perdreau, Regis made 2 changes in 1 month, and 9 changes in 1 year

* UX Update (Heiko)
     + Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
         273(273) (topicUI) bugs open, 68(68) (needsUXEval) needs to be evaluated by the UXteam
     + Updates:
         BZ changes   1 week   1 month    3 months   12 months
              added      5(1)     18(3)      30(-1)      60(3)
          commented     46(6)    207(-32)   825(-9)    2449(6)
            removed      0(-1)     1(-1)      9(-2)      29(0)
           resolved      2(0)     21(-6)    101(-3)     316(-2)
     + top 10 contributors:
           Heiko Tietze made 103 changes in 1 month, and 1482 changes in 1 year
           Stéphane Guillou made 53 changes in 1 month, and 394 changes in 1 year
           Eyal Rozenberg made 46 changes in 1 month, and 292 changes in 1 year
           Kaganski, Mike made 31 changes in 1 month, and 150 changes in 1 year
           ady made 30 changes in 1 month, and 74 changes in 1 year
           Justin Luth made 29 changes in 1 month, and 78 changes in 1 year
           Ilmari Lauhakangas made 24 changes in 1 month, and 224 changes in 1 year
           Vernon, Stuart Foote made 21 changes in 1 month, and 386 changes in 1 year
           Dieter made 14 changes in 1 month, and 258 changes in 1 year
           Hossein made 13 changes in 1 month, and 72 changes in 1 year
     + [Bug 156171] Text-to-columns defective, generating more lines than in source data
     + [Bug 156156] Add Help button to sidebar
     + [Bug 155740] Support distinction rather than override of conflicting
            subdocument styles
     + [Bug 156046] Autocorrect replaces " - " with " – " instead of " — " (en-dash
            instead of em-dash)
     + [Bug 156089] When setting the Heading/Outline Numbering for a level to "None",
            still getting separators
     + [Bug 156087] Add an "all pages" view mode to Draw to scroll through all pages in
            canvas (without needing Page Pane)
     + [Bug 156099] Rename "rotation object" to "solid of revolution"

* Crash Testing (Caolan)
     + 61(+26) import failure, 30(+27) export failures
       - found a crash, fixed it, added an assert, got a bunch more!
         fixed those, awaiting results again
     + 0 coverity issues
     + 5 ossfuzz issues
       - 1 new leak, now fixed

* Crash Reporting (Xisco)
    + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/7.4.7.2
          + (+1) 472 471 380 318 250 251 118 0
    + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/7.5.3.2
          + (-67) 711 778 1109 1355 1174 1029 702 453 0
    + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/7.5.4.2
          + (+252) 969 717 365 0

    + 7.5.4.2 spreadsheets shared in https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice/2023-July/090574.html
    + submitted several fixes based on crashreports (Xisco)
      + some intersection with crashtesting (Caolan)

* Mentoring (Hossein)
   + Finalised and published a blog post on dev blog:
     + Parallel build: tuning the build
       https://dev.blog.documentfoundation.org/2023/07/04/parallel-build-tuning-the-performance/
   + New draft on dev blog:
    + ccache for a 5 minute LibreOffice compilation
      https://dev.blog.documentfoundation.org/?p=875&preview=1&_ppp=3f23b9e45c
      + Needs a patch for Windows to get merged
           committer...   1 week    1 month    3 months    12 months
                   open      71(4)     107(-3)    169(-9)      179(-10)
                reviews     340(62)   1084(38)   3022(106)   10776(48)
                 merged     321(36)   1267(86)   3317(100)   12397(30)
              abandoned      13(3)      57(3)     156(-2)      647(-9)
            own commits     179(17)    740(29)   2331(-4)    10206(17)
         review commits      64(18)    220(15)    727(28)     3007(16)
         contributor...   1 week    1 month     3 months    12 months
                   open      22(-3)     40(1)      235(4)       240(4)
                reviews     866(82)   2964(178)   8172(166)   31728(108)
                 merged      16(9)      50(-8)     367(-5)     2732(37)
              abandoned       3(-1)     10(2)       53(-2)      504(12)
            own commits      21(12)     65(-3)     236(5)      1012(8)
         review commits       0(0)       0(0)        0(0)         0(0)
     + easyHack statistics:
        needsDevEval 8(8)   needsUXEval 1(1)   cleanup_comments 329(329)
        total 398(398)   assigned 27(27)   open 344(344)
     + top 10 contributors:
           Dipam Turkar made 6 patches in 1 month, and 9 patches in 1 year
           Dr. David Alan Gilbert made 6 patches in 1 month, and 18 patches in 1 year
           Luigi Iucci made 4 patches in 1 month, and 5 patches in 1 year
           Armin Le Grand (allotropia) made 4 patches in 1 month, and 71 patches in 1 year
           Colomban Wendling made 3 patches in 1 month, and 24 patches in 1 year
           Baole Fang made 3 patches in 1 month, and 24 patches in 1 year
           Juan C. Sanz made 2 patches in 1 month, and 6 patches in 1 year
           Satya Kompella made 2 patches in 1 month, and 4 patches in 1 year
           Rafał Dobrakowski made 2 patches in 1 month, and 7 patches in 1 year
           Czeber László made 2 patches in 1 month, and 14 patches in 1 year
     + top 10 reviewers:
           Caolán McNamara made 144 review comments in 1 month, and 186 in 1 year
           Nabet, Julien made 88 review comments in 1 month, and 942 in 1 year
           Vajna, Miklos made 74 review comments in 1 month, and 762 in 1 year
           Timar, Andras made 64 review comments in 1 month, and 408 in 1 year
           Xisco Fauli made 58 review comments in 1 month, and 776 in 1 year
           Vajngerl, Tomaž made 56 review comments in 1 month, and 456 in 1 year
           Michael Stahl made 52 review comments in 1 month, and 1060 in 1 year
           Grandin, Noel made 32 review comments in 1 month, and 570 in 1 year
           Samuel Mehrbrodt made 32 review comments in 1 month, and 74 in 1 year
           Castro, Henry made 30 review comments in 1 month, and 84 in 1 year
     + big CONGRATULATIONS to contributors who have at least 1 merged patch, since last report:
           Nay Catina Dia-Schneebeli

* GSoC (Ilmari)
   + Phase 1 evaluations: July 10 - July 14 18:00 UTC
     + next week (heads-up for mentors)

* Commit Access

* Developer Certification (Stephan/Miklos/Thorsten/László)
   + resting since: 13 weeks (limit: 20 weeks)

* Jenkins / CI update (Cloph)
gerrit_android_aarch64     jobs: 209 ok: 183 ko:   9 fail ratio: 4.31% mean_ok:  12 ( 24) median_ok:   9 ( 17)
gerrit_android_arm         jobs: 207 ok: 174 ko:  14 fail ratio: 6.76% mean_ok:  12 ( 22) median_ok:   8 ( 17)
gerrit_android_x86         jobs: 209 ok: 180 ko:   9 fail ratio: 4.31% mean_ok:  13 ( 23) median_ok:   9 ( 17)
gerrit_android_x86_64      jobs: 210 ok: 177 ko:  15 fail ratio: 7.14% mean_ok:  13 ( 24) median_ok:   8 ( 19)
gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil jobs: 430 ok: 283 ko:  94 fail ratio: 21.86% mean_ok:  53 ( 65) median_ok:  50 ( 55)
gerrit_linux_gcc_release   jobs: 424 ok: 318 ko:  66 fail ratio: 15.57% mean_ok:  26 ( 33) median_ok:  24 ( 29)
gerrit_mac                 jobs: 441 ok: 297 ko:  99 fail ratio: 22.45% mean_ok:  45 ( 46) median_ok:  41 ( 41)
gerrit_windows             jobs: 446 ok: 276 ko: 103 fail ratio: 23.09% mean_ok:  60 ( 91) median_ok:  62 ( 85)
gerrit_master              jobs: 455 ok: 227 ko: 156 fail ratio: 34.29% mean_ok:  92 ( 94) median_ok:  81 ( 83)
    + https://dev-www.libreoffice.org/tmp/gerrit_230706.html
    + tests that failed more than twice in last seven days
       3 CppunitTest_framework_dispatch                gerrit_windows
       3 CppunitTest_sw_a11y                gerrit_windows
       3 JunitTest_ridl_remote                gerrit_linux_gcc_release
       3 UITest_calc_tests8                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
       4 CppunitTest_chart2_export3                gerrit_mac
       4 CppunitTest_sc_subsequent_export_test                gerrit_linux_gcc_release
       6 Killed by the kill-wrapper                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil_branch
       7 Killed by the kill-wrapper                gerrit_mac
       7 CppunitTest_sw_mailmerge                gerrit_windows
      10 Killed by the kill-wrapper                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
    + some mac timeout-kills not classified properly, fixed with
      https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/lode/+/154105 thx sberg
    + was a normal week (Cloph)

* What’s cooking (Miklos)
   + multi-color gradients (Armin)
     + Heiko & Regina is creating pre-defined MCGRs, so e.g. rainbow can be inserted
   + document themes (Tomaz)
   + tdf#155118 multi-page floating tables in Writer (Miklos)

* LibreOffice conference Bucharest 2023 (Gabriel)
   + call for papers: https://events.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice-conference-2023/cfp
     + was extended till 15th July
   + what is the status wrt recruiting volunteers for the different parts of the workshop? (Gabriel)
     + discussed this in the team in Munich (Hossein)
     + idea is to present different parts of the workshop
     + will write down who does what
     + most part of the workshop is covered by someone by now
     + general discussions is not covered: e.g. opensource/free software in general can be provided by a university professor if wanted
     + will send details soon
     + great, want to see what parts are uncovered (Gabriel)
     + university feedback was: focus on actual programming
     + other feedback: at the end the students should feel they contributed something
     + easiest to mentor when the solution is already known (Hossein)
       + needs time
     + do you know the number of students to expect? (Hossein)
       + 2-3 students or more?
       + aware of >10 subscribers (Gabriel)
       + will continue promoting
       + would prefer to set a minimum (Hossein)
         + perhaps 5-7 as min
         + already at 12 as of 2 weeks ago, fear not (Gabriel)
         + hope close to 20
       + upper limit? (Thorsten)
         + if hands-on mentoring is needed
         + might also generate interest
         + 2 rooms are booked (Gabriel)
         + probably can't handle more than 20-25 (Thorsten)
         + have experience with ~15 attendees (Hossein)
         + then then can happen that half of them don't come the next day / until the end
       + We have to account for a potential high rate of dropouts (Stephane)
         + A helper is always good
         + We can also encourage peer-learning, students helping each other
       + should think of someone else helping Hossein (Gabriel)
         + expect to be busy with organizing
       + perhaps involve a few students prior to the conference, to help Hossein
       + will raise the idea to the university (Gabriel)
     + experience from Brazil (Xisco)
       + one problem was: many students appeared then many went away in the middle
       + wondering: if the university can give some kind of certificate
       + discussed this with the university (Gabriel)
         + officially this is not possible
         + but something nominal would be nice, perhaps TDF can give something? (Gabriel)
         + something like this happened in Brazil?
         + yes, that was indeed the case (Olivier)
         + could TDF implement something like this?
           + will discuss this later (Olivier, Gabriel)

* QA update (Xisco)
     + UNCONFIRMED: 1186 (+1)
         + enhancements: 277  (+4)
         + needsUXEval: 14 (+6)
         + haveBackTrace: 8 (+0)
         + needsDevAdvice: 34 (+0)
         + documentation:  4 (+0)
         + android:  3 (+0)
         + iOS:  0 (+0)
         + Online:  12 (+0)

     + Most pressing bugs:
      New:

     None


     + New high severity bugs of the week:
         + Regression: dashed lines become solid when breaking imported SVG / exporting to SVG
             + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=155211
             + bisected to Lubos
             + affects editing (breaking) as well as SVG export
             + affects long-standing TexMaths extension
             + code pointers provided by reporter

* QA stats (Stéphane)
     + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
       +80  +51 (-134) overall)
       many thanks to the top bug squashers:
        QA Administrators       25
        ⁨خالد حسني⁩             14
        Justin L                12
        Maxim Monastirsky       12
        Stéphane Guillou (stragu) 10
        Samuel Mehrbrodt (allotropia) 7
        Gabor Kelemen (allotropia) 5
        Caolán McNamara         4
        Xisco Faulí             4
        Aron Budea              3

     + top 10 bugs reporters:
        Samuel Mehrbrodt (allotropia) 8
        Stéphane Guillou (stragu) 4
        Eyal Rozenberg          3
        Mike Kaganski           3
        Regina Henschel         3
        Gabor Kelemen (allotropia) 2
        Hossein                 2
        LucasLibre              2
        Timur                   2
        Heiko Tietze            1

     + top 10 bugs fixers:
        Samuel Mehrbrodt        7
        Justin Luth             4
        Caolán McNamara         3
        Kaganski, Mike          3
        Michael Stahl           3
        خالد حسني               3
        Aron Budea              2
        Henschel, Regina        2
        Jim Raykowski           2
        Monastirsky, Maxim      2

     + top 10 bugs confirmers:
        Stéphane Guillou        14
        m.a.riosv               9
        Balazs Varga            8
        Kelemen, Gabor          7
        Nabet, Julien           4
        Dieter                  3
        Raal                    3
        Michael Stahl           2
        steve                   2
        خالد حسني               2


* Bisected bugs open: keyword 'bisected'
    + more accurate - down to a single commit.
    + http://bit.ly/2dyIfDy
    +

      done by:
         Kelemen, Gabor         1
         Raal                   1
         Stéphane Guillou       1


* Bibisected bugs open: keyword 'bibisected'
    + http://bit.ly/2cSCXlS
    +

      done by:
         Kelemen, Gabor         1
         خالد حسني              1
         Raal                   1
         Stéphane Guillou       1


* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
    + 1190(+1) bugs open of 12633(+7) total 13(+0) high prio.

      done by:
         Stéphane Guillou       2
         Kelemen, Gabor         1
         خالد حسني              1
         Robert Großkopf        1


* ~Component   count net * high severity regressions
    + http://bit.ly/1HWHb3E
      Writer        - 8(+0)
      Calc          - 3(+0)
      Draw          - 1(+0)
      LibreOffice   - 1(+0)

    by OS:
      All           - 9(+0)
      Linux         - 2(+0)
      Mac OS X      - 0(+0)
      Windows       - 2(+0)


* ~Component   count net * all regressions
    + http://bit.ly/1BUdI8i
      Writer: other            - 418(+1)
      Calc                     - 213(-2)
      Impress                  - 132(+1)
      LibreOffice              - 51(+2)
      Crashes                  - 45(+0)
      Draw                     - 45(+0)
      Writer: docx filter      - 45(-1)
      Base                     - 42(+0)
      UI                       - 36(+0)
      Writer: perf             - 33(+0)
      Borders                  - 32(+0)
      Writer: other filter     - 30(+0)
      Chart                    - 25(+0)
      Printing and PDF export  - 23(-1)
      RTL                      - 23(+0)
      BASIC                    - 18(+0)
      filters and storage      - 18(+1)
      Writer: doc filter       - 13(+0)
      graphics stack           - 12(+0)
      Formula Editor           - 3(+0)
      Extensions               - 2(+0)
      framework                - 2(+0)
      sdk                      - 2(+0)
      Linguistic               - 1(+0)


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