Minutes from the UX/design meeting 2023-Jul-13

[Heiko Tietze]

Present: Hossein, Cor, Heiko
Comments: Stuart, Stephane, Shu, Eyal, David


Tickets/Topics

  * Removing "contextual groups" from the list of NB variants
    + Justin resolved some related tickets as WF/WFM
    + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Guidelines/ToolBar
    + 
https://design.blog.documentfoundation.org/2016/12/21/evolving-past-the-restrictions-of-toolbars/.
    + pro removing: experimental state for long, some effort needed
    + con: would be a pity to just follow what others do
    + too many UI options anyway (Hossein)
      + unfortunately we do not have the manpower to improve these ideas
    + we have this ticket somewhere (Heiko)

  * Add an "all pages" view mode to Draw to scroll through all pages
    in canvas (without needing Page Pane)
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=156087
    + similar to Writer's multiple-page view; expected by many
      users (Stephane, Shu)
      + Impress has the Slide Sorter in an extra view mode
    + Draw is not a PDF viewer, WF (Stuart)
    + missing function (Shu)
    + Draw is not meant to show multi-page documents,
      dup of bug 141732 or invalid (Eyal)
    => resolve WF

  * Rename "rotation object" to "solid of revolution"
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=156099
    + https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solid_of_revolution (Tuomas)
    + ODF defines "a three-dimensional rotation shape based on the
      given polygon"; the more convoluted "solid of revolution" while
      lexically correct adds nothing to the UI or the UX (Stuart)
    => resolve NAB

  * Support distinction rather than override of conflicting
    subdocument styles
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=155740
    + unclear use case (David)
    + some confirmation per document (Shu)
      + if we better go with a global master switch (Heiko)
    + master documents are a special workflow aiming for style
      consistency, WF (Mike, Hossein)
    + unclear use case (David)
    + copy/paste could solve alternative workflows (Shu)
    => resolve WF

  * When setting the Heading/Outline Numbering for a level to "None",
    still getting separators
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=156089
    + works like in MSO, WF (Justin)
    + no reason to block, WF (Heiko)
    + asking to _clear_ the separator fields in case of None (Eyal)
      + remembering "Chapter/:" is not a (good) solution since users may
        change it for None into "-/>", or the like, making it very
        difficult to follow
    + behavior existing for years shouldn't change without
      good reasons (Hossein)
    + list style is something you shouldn't change multiple times
    => resolve WF

  * Autocorrect replaces " - " with " – " instead of " — "
    (en-dash instead of em-dash)
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=156046
    + maybe drop the conversion of single hyphen (Stuart)
    + typically two hyphen is an EN-dash, three EM (Heiko)
    + two dashes with / without spaces is kind of standard and
      working like this in MSO (Hossein)
    + clearly described in 
https://help.libreoffice.org/latest/en-US/text/shared/01/06040100.html
    + two dashes without spaces like 1--2 is not correctly
      converted (Heiko)
    => bug; do not change the behavior as described in the help
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