ESC meeting minutes: 2023-03-16

Miklos Vajna vmiklos at collabora.com
Thu Mar 16 15:44:45 UTC 2023


* Present:
     + Olivier, Thorsten, Caolan, Cloph, Cosmin, Heiko, Stephane, Hossein, Ilmari, Michael S, Michael W, Miklos, Xisco, Gabriel

* Completed Action Items:

* Pending Action Items:
     + Remove MAB section (Xisco)
       [ still need to deploy ]

* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
     + no tagging this week
     + 7.5 status: 7.5.2 rc2 next week
     + 7.4 status: 7.4.7 rc1 in 5 weeks
     + Windows arm state (Thorsten)
       + providing arm builds on the mirrors currently, but don't advertise them on the download page (Cloph)
       + because no arm HW to test it
       + so compromise is: daily tinderbox, the builds are there, but not advertised
       + do we know if it's usable? (Thorsten)
         + Hossein tried it on rpi4 (Cloph)
         + works, but no testsuite that works on actual HW
         + Windows store to have it? (Thorsten)
         + some tablets run Windows arm
         + background: is that what the project / ESC wants to officially support?
           + currently cross-compiling: no unit tests are ran
           + also currently no CI
           + just want to start this discussion
     + currently no arm in the Windows store (Cloph)
       + the conversion for the store has to happen on actual arm HW
       + interested in seeing official support, having invested time here (Thorsten)
     + is it easy to reproduce build problems locally? (Miklos)
       + 2-3 additional VS components are needed, not much (Cloph)
       + there is a distro config this already (Thorsten)
     + interested in increasing visibility (Thorsten)
       + give e.g. arm HW to Cloph / QA people
       + testing if there are any objections

* Documentation (Olivier)
     + New Help
        + No news.
     + Helpcontent2
        + Transparent mass refactoring (cloph)
          + saving work for translations
          + appreciated (Thorsten)
        + Update in Heading/Level changes (S. Chaiklin)
        + Updates and fixes (ohallot, erack, R. Lima, A. Heinisch)
        + New Help page on Zoom (Angelle Leger)
     + Guides
         + Work in progress

     + Bugzilla Documentation statistics
         261(261) bugs open
     + Updates:
         BZ changes   1 week   1 month   3 months   12 months
            created     16(2)     67(3)    115(-1)     317(-2)
          commented     29(6)    140(8)    294(16)    1078(9)
           resolved      6(5)     30(2)     54(0)      193(-1)
     + top 10 contributors:
           Seth Chaiklin made 134 changes in 1 month, and 471 changes in 1 year
           Olivier Hallot made 111 changes in 1 month, and 480 changes in 1 year
           Stéphane Guillou made 18 changes in 1 month, and 145 changes in 1 year
           Heiko Tietze made 15 changes in 1 month, and 99 changes in 1 year
           Ilmari Lauhakangas made 7 changes in 1 month, and 99 changes in 1 year
           Adolfo Jayme Barrientos made 4 changes in 1 month, and 45 changes in 1 year
           ady made 3 changes in 1 month, and 5 changes in 1 year
           Dieter made 3 changes in 1 month, and 69 changes in 1 year
           Kaganski, Mike made 3 changes in 1 month, and 110 changes in 1 year
           Sierk Bornemann made 3 changes in 1 month, and 4 changes in 1 year

* UX Update (Heiko)
     + Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
         275(275) (topicUI) bugs open, 96(96) (needsUXEval) needs to be evaluated by the UXteam
     + Updates:
         BZ changes   1 week   1 month   3 months   12 months
              added     13(1)     34(9)     47(9)       84(10)
          commented     98(11)   305(28)   709(36)    2247(16)
            removed      2(2)      2(2)      4(2)       28(2)
           resolved      8(-3)    34(-2)    91(3)      281(1)
     + top 10 contributors:
           Heiko Tietze made 185 changes in 1 month, and 1417 changes in 1 year
           Eyal Rozenberg made 95 changes in 1 month, and 323 changes in 1 year
           Vernon, Stuart Foote made 60 changes in 1 month, and 251 changes in 1 year
           Dieter made 56 changes in 1 month, and 222 changes in 1 year
           Seth Chaiklin made 48 changes in 1 month, and 214 changes in 1 year
           Ilmari Lauhakangas made 42 changes in 1 month, and 218 changes in 1 year
           Stéphane Guillou made 34 changes in 1 month, and 178 changes in 1 year
           Rafael Lima made 30 changes in 1 month, and 262 changes in 1 year
           Telesto made 21 changes in 1 month, and 119 changes in 1 year
           Cor Nouws made 10 changes in 1 month, and 62 changes in 1 year
     + [Bug 154186] Change "OK" to "Apply" in the "Edit Index Entry" dialog
     + [Bug 154208] Feature Request: Prompt/Warning when trying to add incompatible
            features to a document
     + [Bug 152615] Tabbed menu bar border no longer has round corners
     + [Bug 154190] Make "Edit macro" remember previously opened and edited
            library/module
  -> + [Bug 153903] "Category and Number" and "Caption Text" in Cross-reference
            variable dialog are limited to fixed structural relations
        + proposal for ToC-Entries-like way to configure captions in bug 153248/148597
        + could be a next year GSoC project, looking for mentors
     + [Bug 154157] Allow Calc to automatically enter decimal points in currency values
     + [Bug 154176] export to image or other formats (entire document)
     + [Bug 153890] Rename "Apply to all similar texts" to "Apply to all other
            occurrences" in Insert - Index Entry dialog
     + [Bug 154163] Change "Degrees freedom" to "Degrees of freedom"
     + [Bug 154140] Bring back the transparency option
     + [Bug 154152] Paste-Special of plain text as Text, Number or Formula does nothing
     + [Bug 153899] Clone format of unmerged cells breaks up merging, applies to
            first unmerged cell only
     + [Bug 153838] Wrong page numbering on 'Only right'/'Only left' page styles.
     + [Bug 154120] Need ability to mark characters to be ignored for line
            height calculation
     + [Bug 154127] Can't select animation effect category and type before adding it
     + [Bug 154109] Help the user make a decision on AutoRecovery by showing last
             autosave times vs last manual save timestamp
     + [Bug 154059] Toolbar's icons don't show its enable/disable status in vcl:gen
     + [Bug 154103] Movement around a link is "LTRified" even in RTL contexts
     + [Bug 154019] UI string "Scale" is misleading


* Crash Testing (Caolan)
     + 35(-23) import failure, 2(-2) export failures
     + 31 coverity issues, 2 fixed, rest dismissed, new build pending results
     + 2 ossfuzz issues, 1 timeout, 1 OOM
     + categoried list is sent to the dev mailing list, has a threading section

* Crash Reporting (Xisco)
    + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/7.4.5.1
          + (-35) 882 917 911 758 646 573 645 0
    + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/7.4.6.2
          + (+241) 241 0
    + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/7.5.0.3
          + (-254) 1896 2150 2763 2246 1834 1162 0
    + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/7.5.1.2
          + (+308) 854 546 0
    + some crashreport website performance problem today

* Mentoring (Hossein)
           committer...   1 week     1 month     3 months    12 months
                   open      65(-6)     122(-19)    147(-10)     153(-10)
                reviews     448(-18)   1610(30)    3630(-16)   11750(124)
                 merged     336(-47)   1559(65)    3937(0)     14515(5)
              abandoned      11(-12)     68(-7)     182(-6)      820(4)
            own commits     222(-39)   1094(52)    2651(29)    10592(-39)
         review commits     128(50)     412(79)     844(50)     2899(80)
         contributor...   1 week      1 month     3 months    12 months
                   open      39(7)       224(5)      234(8)       243(8)
                reviews     904(-114)   3808(148)   8712(-54)   31776(34)
                 merged      24(-5)       94(10)     190(-10)     873(9)
              abandoned       5(-9)       38(-2)     192(-3)      599(4)
            own commits      57(25)      174(44)     327(25)     1019(52)
         review commits       0(0)         0(0)        0(0)         0(0)
     + easyHack statistics:
        needsDevEval 9(9)   needsUXEval 2(2)   cleanup_comments 322(322)
        total 386(386)   assigned 24(24)   open 333(333)
     + top 10 contributors:
           Sophia Schroeder made 36 patches in 1 month, and 36 patches in 1 year
           Colomban Wendling made 9 patches in 1 month, and 20 patches in 1 year
           Armin Le Grand (allotropia) made 8 patches in 1 month, and 46 patches in 1 year
           Vojtěch Doležal made 6 patches in 1 month, and 6 patches in 1 year
           Galdam Jitsu made 5 patches in 1 month, and 10 patches in 1 year
             made 4 patches in 1 month, and 34 patches in 1 year
           Baole Fang made 3 patches in 1 month, and 3 patches in 1 year
           Paris Oplopoios made 3 patches in 1 month, and 16 patches in 1 year
           Damjan, Jovanovic made 2 patches in 1 month, and 2 patches in 1 year
           Juan C. Sanz made 2 patches in 1 month, and 4 patches in 1 year
     + top 10 reviewers:
           Michael Stahl made 158 review comments in 1 month, and 1068 in 1 year
           McNamara, Caolán made 150 review comments in 1 month, and 1054 in 1 year
           Adolfo Jayme Barrientos made 126 review comments in 1 month, and 1000 in 1 year
           Nabet, Julien made 124 review comments in 1 month, and 846 in 1 year
           Ilmari Lauhakangas made 78 review comments in 1 month, and 334 in 1 year
           Vajna, Miklos made 74 review comments in 1 month, and 712 in 1 year
           Thorsten Behrens made 72 review comments in 1 month, and 586 in 1 year
           Christian Lohmaier made 70 review comments in 1 month, and 382 in 1 year
           Xisco Fauli made 70 review comments in 1 month, and 816 in 1 year
           Hossein made 68 review comments in 1 month, and 292 in 1 year
     + Patches automatically abandoned:
         tdf#139388 updated Dutch dictionary to 2.20.21 ( Aron Budea )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/138954
     + big CONGRATULATIONS to contributors who have at least 1 merged patch, since last report:
           Angelle Leger
           Baole Fang
           Gokulakrishnan Shankar
           Arvind K
           Yousef Rabia

* GSoC (Ilmari)
   + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/GSoC/2023
   + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/GSoC/Ideas
     + Ideas are still welcome, if there is a matching mentor (Thorsten)

       + Next step: March 20th - 4th April, project submission period for mentees


* Commit Access
   + Paris Oplopoios (offtkp) of Collabora (Miklos)
     + has >100 changes in already
     + support it (Thorsten)
     AI: Cloph to grant the permission
     AI: Miklos to send the welcome mail

* Developer Certification (Stephan/Kendy/Thorsten/László)
   + resting since: 20 weeks (limit: 20 weeks)
   + have 4 candidates, will reach out to them (Stephan)
   + 2 candidates have not responded yet, lets wait another week

* Jenkins / CI update (Cloph)
gerrit_android_aarch64     jobs: 281 ok: 244 ko:  16 fail ratio: 5.69% mean_ok:  10 ( 18) median_ok:   7 ( 12)
gerrit_android_arm         jobs: 282 ok: 244 ko:  26 fail ratio: 9.22% mean_ok:  10 ( 17) median_ok:   8 ( 12)
gerrit_android_x86         jobs: 283 ok: 241 ko:  20 fail ratio: 7.07% mean_ok:  10 ( 17) median_ok:   8 ( 12)
gerrit_android_x86_64      jobs: 284 ok: 249 ko:  25 fail ratio: 8.80% mean_ok:  10 ( 18) median_ok:   8 ( 13)
gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil jobs: 595 ok: 347 ko: 207 fail ratio: 34.79% mean_ok:  47 ( 59) median_ok:  44 ( 51)
gerrit_linux_gcc_release   jobs: 562 ok: 411 ko: 124 fail ratio: 22.06% mean_ok:  22 ( 27) median_ok:  20 ( 21)
gerrit_mac                 jobs: 577 ok: 373 ko: 157 fail ratio: 27.21% mean_ok:  43 ( 70) median_ok:  41 ( 54)
gerrit_windows             jobs: 622 ok: 345 ko: 200 fail ratio: 32.15% mean_ok:  65 (124) median_ok:  62 (118)
gerrit_master              jobs: 639 ok: 272 ko: 289 fail ratio: 45.23% mean_ok: 121 (127) median_ok: 106 (106)
    + https://dev-www.libreoffice.org/tmp/gerrit_230316.thml
    + tests that failed more than twice in last seven days
       3 UITest_writer_tests6                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
       4 CppunitTest_sd_export_tests-ooxml1                gerrit_windows
       4 CppunitTest_sw_ooxmlexport17                gerrit_mac
       4 CppunitTest_sw_uiwriter3                gerrit_windows
       5 CppunitTest_framework_dispatch                gerrit_windows
       5 CppunitTest_sw_mailmerge                gerrit_windows
       6 CppunitTest_sw_layoutwriter3                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
       7 CppunitTest_sc_ucalc                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
       7 UITest_calc_tests8                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
       9 CppunitTest_sw_uiwriter3                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
      10 CppunitTest_sc_uicalc                gerrit_windows
      11 UITest_calc_tests4                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
      12 Killed by the kill-wrapper                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
      12 CppunitTest_sc_ucalc                gerrit_windows
      13 CppunitTest_sc_ucalc                gerrit_mac
      15 CppunitTest_sc_ucalc                gerrit_linux_gcc_release
       -> unittest reverted. fails are from the weekend
      16 Killed by the kill-wrapper                gerrit_mac
   + currently still under high load
   + 1 windows builder short
   + 1 frequent failure solved by a revert
   + Caolan also hunted down two master fixes, on their way to libreoffice-7-5 now

* LibreOffice hackfest in Cambridge (Miklos)
   + as part of COOL days: 28 & 29th March 2023
   + https://www.collaboraoffice.com/cooldays/ has more info

* What’s cooking (Miklos)
   + Multi-page floating tables: behind SW_FORCE_FLY_SPLIT=1 for now (Miklos)
   + multi-color gradients (Armin)
     + focusing on plumbing / rendering, no model changes yet (Thorsten)
     + the XGradient/data structures/UNO API changes got started, see discussion on
       the dev ML
   + theming work (Tomaz)
     + focusing on Writer for now
   + PDF/UA is not enabled by default but Tagged PDF is (Michael S)

* LibreOffice conference Bucharest 2023 (Gabriel)

     + technical workshops for students from the university (faculty) that will host the

       conference: what can we offer ?

     + during the conference

     + after the conference

   + Gabriel is part of the organizing team
     + looking forward to get input on what's wanted
   + probably something for Hossein/Ilmari, to lead that (Thorsten)
     + did it two times
     + lot of work to prepare to be useful
     + half a day / full-day, so people can have build & easy hacks done
       + so the experience is rewarding
       + what can we require from students?
       + think it's C++ (Gabriel)
         + will ask
   + experience from hackfest at his university (Hossein)
     + can be half a day to just setup (download, build, etc)
     + two sessions is better: 4 hours each
     + if you don't need to build (e.g. python extension): ~no setup time needed
       + e.g. show off scripting possibilities
     + more detailed work (easy hacks, bugfixing): more time is needed
     + think there is no problem with the time (Gabriel)
       + can have a dedicated room, can promote it before the conference
       + 1-2 months before the end of the semester
     + may make sense to work with the students online, before the conference
       + that would be helpful
       + can discuss the idea (Gabriel)
   + experience from regional conference (LATAM) in Brazil (Olivier)
     + tried to bring the university / students some value
     + show them how we create FLOSS
     + including quality / how to report bugs
     + workshops on specific tasks
     + will talk to the university contacts if we can use their lab (Gabriel)
       + possibly students prefer their own laptops anyway
   + need to take some concrete proposal to the university (Gabriel)
     + will talk to Hossein/Ilmari separately
     + will announce this on the dev list (where, when)

* QA update (Xisco)

     + UNCONFIRMED: 1298 (-37)
         + enhancements: 300  (+7)
         + needsUXEval: 16 (+3)
         + haveBackTrace: 5 (+0)
         + needsDevAdvice: 29 (+0)
         + documentation:  1 (-1)
         + android:  3 (+0)
         + iOS:  0 (+0)
         + Online:  12 (+0)


     + Most pressing bugs:
      New:

     None


     + New high severity bugs of the week:
         + NB Tabbed interface not using whole width of the NB to show controls (STR comment 11)
             + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=140557
             + Szymon?

         + CRASH: undoing column insert
             + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=154061
             + Fixed, thanks to Paris

* QA stats (Stéphane)
     + We are now below 1300 unconfirmed bugs (from ~1850 back in October)
     + Drawing attention to some regressions by currently inactive contributor, in case anyone is interested in looking into them: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/buglist.cgi?f1=cf_regressionby&keywords=regression%2C%20&keywords_type=allwords&list_id=1572618&o1=equals&query_format=advanced&resolution=---&v1=Lubo%C5%A1%20Lu%C5%88%C3%A1k
     + 7.5 spellcheck issue, inconsistent results: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=153628#c12
     + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
       +138  +32 (-145) overall)
       many thanks to the top bug squashers:
        Stéphane Guillou (stragu) 20
        Justin L                16
        QA Administrators       11
        Buovjaga                9
        Heiko Tietze            9
        sdc.blanco              8
        Michael Weghorn         7
        Adolfo Jayme Barrientos 5
        Eike Rathke             4
        V Stuart Foote          4

     + top 10 bugs reporters:
        Eyal Rozenberg          11
        sdc.blanco              7
        Telesto                 5
        Andreas Heinisch        4
        Heiko Tietze            3
        Mike Kaganski           3
        Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz 3
        Stéphane Guillou (stragu) 3
        ajlittoz                3
        Alexander Van den Panhuysen 2

     + top 10 bugs fixers:
        Seth Chaiklin           8
        Adolfo Jayme Barrientos 5
        Justin Luth             4
        McNamara, Caolán        3
        Weghorn, Michael        3
        Andreas Heinisch        2
        Baole Fang              2
        Heiko Tietze            2
        Henschel, Regina        2
        Michael Stahl           2

     + top 10 bugs confirmers:
        Stéphane Guillou        31
        Ilmari Lauhakangas      28
        Heiko Tietze            8
        m.a.riosv               7
        Dieter                  5
        Olivier Hallot          5
        Rathke, Eike            4
        steve                   4
        Alex Thurgood           3
        Justin Luth             3

* Highest-Priority bugs (aka "MABs"):
    + http://bit.ly/2lJAAJI
      6.0 : 2/54 -     3 %  (+0)
      5.4 : 0/41 -     0 %  (+0)
      5.3 : 0/54 -     0 %  (+0)
      5.2 : 0/43 -     0 %  (+0)
      5.1 : 0/35 -     0 %  (+0)
      5.0 : 0/64 -     0 %  (+0)
      4.4 : 0/76 -     0 %  (+0)
      4.3 : 0/73 -     0 %  (+0)
      4.2 : 2/134 -    1 %  (+0)
      4.1 : 1/85 -     1 %  (+0)
      4.0 : 1/82 -     1 %  (+0)
      old : 1/246 -    0 %  (+0)

* Bisected bugs open: keyword 'bisected'
    + more accurate - down to a single commit.
    + http://bit.ly/2dyIfDy
    +

      done by:
         Stéphane Guillou       8
         Raal                   3
         sockseight             2
         Xisco Fauli            2
         Ilmari Lauhakangas     1
         Justin Luth            1
         steve                  1

* Bibisected bugs open: keyword 'bibisected'
    + http://bit.ly/2cSCXlS
    +

      done by:
         Stéphane Guillou       8
         Ilmari Lauhakangas     3
         Raal                   3
         sockseight             2
         Xisco Fauli            2
         Justin Luth            1
         steve                  1
         Weghorn, Michael       1

* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
    + 1245(+10) bugs open of 12414(+23) total 12(+0) high prio.

      done by:
         Stéphane Guillou       8
         Raal                   3
         ady                    2
         Ilmari Lauhakangas     2
         Xisco Fauli            2
         Alex Thurgood          1
         Bielefeld, Rainer      1
         steve                  1
         Weghorn, Michael       1
         Németh, László         1

* ~Component   count net * high severity regressions
    + http://bit.ly/1HWHb3E
      Writer        - 7(+1)
      Calc          - 2(-1)
      Draw          - 1(+0)
      Impress       - 1(+0)
      LibreOffice   - 1(+0)

    by OS:
      All           - 8(+0)
      Linux         - 2(+0)
      Mac OS X      - 0(+0)
      Windows       - 2(+0)

* ~Component   count net * all regressions
    + http://bit.ly/1BUdI8i
      Writer: other            - 435(+4)
      Calc                     - 224(+1)
      Impress                  - 129(+3)
      Writer: docx filter      - 55(-4)
      Crashes                  - 53(+0)
      LibreOffice              - 49(+0)
      Base                     - 45(+2)
      Draw                     - 45(+0)
      UI                       - 40(+1)
      Writer: perf             - 35(+0)
      Borders                  - 33(+0)
      Writer: other filter     - 29(+0)
      Chart                    - 26(+1)
      Printing and PDF export  - 24(+2)
      RTL                      - 23(+0)
      Writer: doc filter       - 20(-1)
      BASIC                    - 19(+0)
      filters and storage      - 16(+0)
      graphics stack           - 13(+0)
      Formula Editor           - 3(+0)
      Extensions               - 2(+1)
      sdk                      - 2(+0)
      Linguistic               - 1(+0)
      framework                - 1(+0)


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