ESC meeting minutes: 2023-11-02

Stephan Bergmann sbergman at redhat.com
Thu Nov 2 15:24:29 UTC 2023


* Present:

     + Heiko, Michael W., Ilmari, Thorsten, Hossein, Stephan, Cloph, 
Michael S., Eike,
       Xisco, Caolan

* Completed Action Items:

* Pending Action Items:
     + Set up a daily tinderbox for the python-based windows installer 
(Cloph)
       [ hope to get to it in a week ]

* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
     + 7.6 status: 7.6.3 rc1 later today
       + 4 patches still waiting:
        https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/q/branch:libreoffice-7-6+status:open
     + 7.5 status: 7.5.8 announced as final today
       + new build just for macOS appstore version (cherry-pick on top 
of tag)
         coming up
     + 24.2: end of Nov, in week 47, first alpha

* Ask from the board (Thorsten)
     + The Android viewer in version 7.6 has been published on F-Droid
       since a while, with good quality.
     + The board is asking the ESC, if:
        * with the release of LibreOffice 7.6.3 end of November
        * publishing the Android Viewer again on the Google PlayStore
        * would be met with approval?
     + ~200 fixes since it was un-published because of poor state back 
then (Michael W.)
       + makes sense to publish it again
       + no plan to implement big new features
       + but look into whatever issues will get reported
     + concerns? wait a bit longer? (Thorsten)
     + what's currently available in playstore? (Michael S.)
       + currently unlisted and not accessible (Cloph)
     + would take some time to get it published again (Cloph)
       + will probably not land directly on 7.6.3 release day
       + but then keep on publishing new versions
     + no objections

* Documentation (Olivier)
     + Bugzilla Documentation statistics
         272(272) bugs open
     + Updates:
         BZ changes   1 week   1 month   3 months   12 months
            created      7(2)    19(-6)     53(-8)     291(-1)
          commented     13(4)    44(-3)    162(-20)   1076(-4)
           resolved      3(3)     5(0)      21(-2)     157(1)
     + top 10 contributors:
           Ilmari Lauhakangas made 13 changes in 1 month, and 132 
changes in 1 year
           Kaganski, Mike made 11 changes in 1 month, and 80 changes in 
1 year
           Olivier Hallot made 11 changes in 1 month, and 432 changes in 
1 year
           Heiko Tietze made 10 changes in 1 month, and 117 changes in 1 
year
           Seth Chaiklin made 10 changes in 1 month, and 316 changes in 
1 year
           Stéphane Guillou made 7 changes in 1 month, and 355 changes 
in 1 year
           Xisco Fauli made 4 changes in 1 month, and 14 changes in 1 year
           aswath t made 2 changes in 1 month, and 7 changes in 1 year
           Rathke, Eike made 2 changes in 1 month, and 10 changes in 1 year
           Jérôme made 2 changes in 1 month, and 2 changes in 1 year

* UX Update (Heiko)
     + Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
         253(253) (topicUI) bugs open, 57(57) (needsUXEval) needs to be 
evaluated by the UXteam
     + Updates:
         BZ changes   1 week    1 month   3 months   12 months
              added      8(1)      16(-1)    19(0)       40(0)
          commented     56(-13)   195(12)   450(22)    2240(28)
            removed      0(0)       2(0)      3(0)       20(1)
           resolved      8(-1)     30(3)     88(4)      336(8)
     + top 10 contributors:
           Heiko Tietze made 124 changes in 1 month, and 1417 changes in 
1 year
           Stéphane Guillou made 122 changes in 1 month, and 594 changes 
in 1 year
           Eyal Rozenberg made 28 changes in 1 month, and 252 changes in 
1 year
           Justin Luth made 25 changes in 1 month, and 120 changes in 1 year
           Ilmari Lauhakangas made 23 changes in 1 month, and 237 
changes in 1 year
           m.a.riosv made 21 changes in 1 month, and 94 changes in 1 year
           Balazs Varga made 16 changes in 1 month, and 16 changes in 1 year
           Amin Irgaliev made 14 changes in 1 month, and 17 changes in 1 
year
           Bogdan B made 13 changes in 1 month, and 116 changes in 1 year
           Dieter made 12 changes in 1 month, and 236 changes in 1 year
     + [Bug 157991] Print scaling not applied when using single column,
            column wider than page width, with text-wrapping
     + [Bug 155169] Inconsistent behavior of Cmd+left/right arrow on macOS
     + [Bug 100585] Ordering of sheets with different direction changes when
            switching between them (RTL UI, not with GTK3)

* Crash Testing (Caolan)
     + 17(+8) import failure, 10(+10) export failures
       - older calc issue is fixed, new source of crashers are known as
       - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/157456
       - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/156867
     + 2 coverity issues
     + 3 Google / ossfuzz, 2 crashers, 1 of which fixed

* Crash Reporting (Xisco)
     + 7.5.6.2    2984(+310) 2674 2328
     + 7.5.7.1    2832(+877) 1955 1190
     + 7.6.0.3    14790(+939) 13851 12800
     + 7.6.1.2    7382(+604) 6778 6140
     + 7.6.2.1    10497(+3214) 7283 4348

* Mentoring (Hossein)
   + Finalized and published a blog post
     Integer data types improvement – EasyHack
 
https://dev.blog.documentfoundation.org/2023/11/02/integer-data-types-improvement-easyhack/
   + Added a new EasyHack
     Copy a table from Writer to plain text editor or as unformatted 
text pastes a list instead of matrix
     https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=144576
     + marked as "medium" for now, but expert input welcome there!
     + Also createad a draft blog post
       Writer tables converted to plain text – EasyHack
 
https://dev.blog.documentfoundation.org/?p=1006&preview=1&_ppp=58384100c9

           committer...   1 week     1 month     3 months   12 months
                   open     123(19)     201(60)     202(30)     202(4)
                reviews     448(40)    1302(148)   3320(30)   11822(130)
                 merged     272(-22)   1087(39)    2990(9)    12824(12)
              abandoned      23(10)      64(16)     176(15)     659(12)
            own commits     195(-37)    800(34)    2105(23)    9683(-24)
         review commits      62(14)     236(15)     617(12)    3019(18)
         contributor...   1 week    1 month     3 months    12 months
                   open     120(51)    171(73)     173(51)      174(35)
                reviews     938(16)   2940(296)   7202(164)   30638(58)
                 merged      12(-8)     62(4)      175(-6)     1995(-23)
              abandoned       3(1)      19(-7)     214(2)       610(-3)
            own commits      14(-5)     76(1)      208(-1)     1099(-1)
         review commits       0(0)       0(0)        0(0)         0(0)
     + easyHack statistics:
        needsDevEval 8(8)   needsUXEval 1(1)   cleanup_comments 320(320)
        total 401(401)   assigned 21(21)   open 354(354)
     + top 10 contributors:
           Sahil Gautam made 6 patches in 1 month, and 15 patches in 1 year
           Omkar Acharekar  made 5 patches in 1 month, and 6 patches in 
1 year
           Ankit Kumar Jaipuriar made 4 patches in 1 month, and 5 
patches in 1 year
           Bogdan B made 3 patches in 1 month, and 100 patches in 1 year
           Khushi Gautam made 3 patches in 1 month, and 3 patches in 1 year
           Hannah Meeks made 2 patches in 1 month, and 5 patches in 1 year
           Stéphane Guillou made 2 patches in 1 month, and 39 patches in 
1 year
           Li Yang made 2 patches in 1 month, and 3 patches in 1 year
           Darshan Upadhyay made 2 patches in 1 month, and 3 patches in 
1 year
           Tzschichholz, Rico made 1 patches in 1 month, and 4 patches 
in 1 year
     + top 10 reviewers:
           Caolán McNamara made 166 review comments in 1 month, and 716 
in 1 year
           Michael Stahl made 132 review comments in 1 month, and 1176 
in 1 year
           Ilmari Lauhakangas made 114 review comments in 1 month, and 
434 in 1 year
           Xisco Fauli made 90 review comments in 1 month, and 774 in 1 year
           Vajna, Miklos made 82 review comments in 1 month, and 894 in 
1 year
           Nabet, Julien made 78 review comments in 1 month, and 988 in 
1 year
           Kaganski, Mike made 74 review comments in 1 month, and 392 in 
1 year
           Grandin, Noel made 58 review comments in 1 month, and 602 in 
1 year
           Hossein made 54 review comments in 1 month, and 270 in 1 year
           Patrick Luby made 34 review comments in 1 month, and 90 in 1 year

* Commit Access
   + None

* Developer Certification (Stephan/Miklos/Thorsten/László)
   + resting since: 5 weeks (limit: 20 weeks)

* Jenkins / CI update (Cloph)
gerrit_android_aarch64     jobs: 185 ok: 179 ko:   5 fail ratio: 2.70% 
mean_ok:   8 ( 12) median_ok:   5 (  8)
gerrit_android_arm         jobs: 184 ok: 179 ko:   3 fail ratio: 1.63% 
mean_ok:   8 ( 12) median_ok:   5 (  6)
gerrit_android_x86         jobs: 185 ok: 178 ko:   6 fail ratio: 3.24% 
mean_ok:   8 ( 12) median_ok:   5 (  7)
gerrit_android_x86_64      jobs: 184 ok: 178 ko:   5 fail ratio: 2.72% 
mean_ok:   7 ( 11) median_ok:   5 (  8)
gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil jobs: 385 ok: 283 ko:  95 fail ratio: 24.68% 
mean_ok:  40 ( 43) median_ok:  35 ( 41)
gerrit_linux_gcc_release   jobs: 420 ok: 354 ko:  48 fail ratio: 11.43% 
mean_ok:  19 ( 23) median_ok:  17 ( 17)
gerrit_mac                 jobs: 371 ok: 335 ko:  27 fail ratio: 7.28% 
mean_ok:  48 ( 48) median_ok:  44 ( 44)
gerrit_windows             jobs: 373 ok: 305 ko:  38 fail ratio: 10.19% 
mean_ok:  77 (146) median_ok:  71 (131)
gerrit_master_ml           jobs: 440 ok: 245 ko: 141 fail ratio: 32.05% 
mean_ok: 160 (162) median_ok: 129 (141)
gerrit_master              jobs:  57 ok:  32 ko:  17 fail ratio: 29.82% 
mean_ok: 114 (115) median_ok: 101 (101)
gerrit_master_seq          jobs: 386 ok: 215 ko: 125 fail ratio: 32.38% 
mean_ok: 165 (166) median_ok: 142 (142)
    + https://dev-www.libreoffice.org/tmp/gerrit_231102.html
    + tests that failed more than twice in last seven days
       3 CppunitTest_dbaccess_hsql_binary_import 
gerrit_windows
       3 CppunitTest_sw_mailmerge                gerrit_windows
       3 CppunitTest_test_a11y                gerrit_windows
       4 Killed by the kill-wrapper 
gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil_branch
       4 UITest_sw_sidebar                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
       8 CppunitTest_sd_import_tests                gerrit_linux_gcc_release
      23 Killed by the kill-wrapper 
gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
      + CppunitTest_sw_navigator disappeard, Noel found root cause
        + also affects Collabora 23.05 branch, might want to backport

* What’s cooking (Miklos)
     + Multi-page floating tables in Writer, see tdf#157119 for details 
(Miklos)
     + A11y update (Michael W)
        - mostly looking into how text is reported by screen readers + 
spelling dialog
        - small macOS and gtk4 a11y improvements
     + ItemSet rework (Michael S)
       + current iteration: easy test failures are fixed, the harder 
ones still need fixing

* Discuss landing new SfxItemPool/SfxPoolItem stuff (Noel?)
     ITEM: Get away from classic 'poolable' Item flag
     https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/157559
     + more reviewers wanted for the above change, please!
       + somebody working with item sets for long would be ideal reviewer
         + Miklos on cc already, but currently on vacation
         + wait until Monday and check back with Miklos? (Caolan)
     + should be an improvement overall even if there might be 
short-term issues
       showing up (Thorsten)
       + will allow for further improvements down the road

* QA update (Xisco)

     + below 1000 unconfirmed bugs, first time in a year!!!

     + UNCONFIRMED: 993 (-48)
         + enhancements: 243  (-8)
         + needsUXEval: 7 (-3)
         + haveBackTrace: 10 (+0)
         + needsDevAdvice: 35 (+0)
         + documentation:  1 (-1)
         + android:  0 (+0)
         + iOS:  0 (+0)
         + Online:  11 (+0)

     + Most pressing bugs:
      New:
          None

     Old:

         + LibreOffice 7.6 stalls/crashes under Windows 11 with 
Norwegian locale when opening file dialog
             + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=157135
             + similar to the one from last week
             + asking the reporters to try to bisect it
             + didn't hear back from them (Ilmari)
             + anybody can reproduce it, and report back? seems hard to 
reproduce

     + New high severity bugs of the week:
         + VIEWING / SCROLLING: very laggy jerky scrolling on macOS 
7.5.3.2 Release MacOSX Monterey, MacBook Air M1 (ARM) Writer: scroll lag
             + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=155266
             + anybody can reproduce it, and report back? seems hard to 
reproduce

* QA stats (Stéphane)
     + 
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
       +106  -4 (-137) overall)
       many thanks to the top bug squashers:
        QA Administrators       24
        Stéphane Guillou (stragu) 20
        Balázs Varga (allotropia) 10
        Buovjaga                10
        Mike Kaganski           8
        Heiko Tietze            6
        Dieter                  4
        Timur                   4
        Andreas Heinisch        3
        Justin L                3

     + top 10 bugs reporters:
        Gabor Kelemen (allotropia) 13
        Regina Henschel         3
        Robert Großkopf         3
        Eyal Rozenberg          2
        László Németh           2
        Mike Kaganski           2
        Omid                    2
        Tracey                  2
        diasjacomesylvio        2
        steve                   2

     + top 10 bugs fixers:
        Balazs Varga            10
        Andreas Heinisch        3
        Kaganski, Mike          3
        Németh, László          3
        Timur                   3
        Justin Luth             2
        Olivier Hallot          2
        Vajna, Miklos           2
        Xisco Fauli             2
        Alex G                  1

     + top 10 bugs confirmers:
        Ilmari Lauhakangas      29
        Stéphane Guillou        26
        m.a.riosv               10
        Heiko Tietze            9
        steve                   8
        Bogdan B                5
        Nabet, Julien           5
        *UNKNOWN*               4
        Alex Thurgood           3
        Dieter                  3


* Bisected bugs open: keyword 'bisected'
    + more accurate - down to a single commit.
    + http://bit.ly/2dyIfDy
    +

      done by:
         Bogdan B               3
         Stéphane Guillou       3
         Ilmari Lauhakangas     1
         Kelemen, Gabor         1
         Raal                   1
         Xisco Fauli            1


* Bibisected bugs open: keyword 'bibisected'
    + http://bit.ly/2cSCXlS
    +

      done by:
         Bogdan B               3
         Stéphane Guillou       3
         Ilmari Lauhakangas     1
         Kelemen, Gabor         1
         Raal                   1
         Timur                  1
         Xisco Fauli            1


* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
    + 1218(-3) bugs open of 12938(+17) total 17(+1) high prio.

      done by:
         Stéphane Guillou       4
         Bogdan B               3
         Ilmari Lauhakangas     1
         Alex Thurgood          1
         Kelemen, Gabor         1
         Kaganski, Mike         1
         Raal                   1
         Timur                  1
         Xisco Fauli            1


* ~Component   count net * high severity regressions
    + http://bit.ly/1HWHb3E
      Writer        - 11(+1)
      Calc          - 3(+0)
      LibreOffice   - 2(+0)
      UI            - 1(+0)

    by OS:
      All           - 12(+1)
      Linux         - 3(+0)
      Mac OS X      - 0(+0)
      Windows       - 2(+0)


* ~Component   count net * all regressions
    + http://bit.ly/1BUdI8i
      Writer: other            - 424(+0)
      Calc                     - 222(-1)
      Impress                  - 135(-3)
      LibreOffice              - 52(+0)
      Draw                     - 50(+2)
      Crashes                  - 44(+0)
      Base                     - 41(-1)
      Writer: docx filter      - 40(-1)
      UI                       - 36(+0)
      Borders                  - 35(+0)
      Writer: other filter     - 35(+1)
      Writer: perf             - 33(+0)
      Printing and PDF export  - 26(+1)
      RTL                      - 24(+0)
      Chart                    - 22(+0)
      filters and storage      - 19(+0)
      BASIC                    - 18(+1)
      Writer: doc filter       - 15(+0)
      graphics stack           - 11(-2)
      Formula Editor           - 5(+0)
      framework                - 3(-1)
      Extensions               - 2(+0)
      sdk                      - 2(+0)
      Linguistic               - 1(+0)



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