ESC meeting minutes: 2023-10-05
Miklos Vajna
vmiklos at collabora.com
Thu Oct 5 14:40:12 UTC 2023
* Present:
+ Heiko, Olivier, Stephane, Caolan, Cloph, Eike, Hossein, Ilmari, Michael W, Regina, Stephan, Thorsten, Xisco, Michael S, Miklos, Gabriel
* Completed Action Items:
+ Try gtk4 local builds, Qt6 local builds (Cloph)
[ not done, but will happen later ]
+ review bot: ignore distro branches when adding reviewers (Xisco)
[ master-only now ]
+ Send the welcome mail + point out the restricted scope for Skyler (Miklos)
+ Enable the commit bit for Skyler (Cloph)
* Pending Action Items:
+ Set up a daily tinderbox for the python-based windows installer (Cloph)
* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
+ 7.6 status: 7.6.3 rc1 in 4 weeks
+ 7.5 status: 7.5.8 rc1 in 1 weeks
+ maybe bump the VS baseline on Windows?
+ not opposed to that, but it requires some work, needs time (Cloph)
+ ran into this C++20 compiler problem with managed C++ (Stephan)
+ turns out it uses C++17
+ see the mailing list thread
+ also std::source_location change from Noel, failed in CLR
+ failed due to the same problem
+ so whenever we use C++20 featues, that may not work
+ for now we didn't ran into problems that we could not work around, though
+ prefer deploying Windows 11 CI builders first (Cloph)
* Documentation (Olivier)
+ Helpcontents2
+ more updates in menus vs UI modes (ohallot)
+ add target for UNO commands when using F1
+ that is, avoid 404 error.
+ any way to help for unclear commands? (Miklos)
+ working with the user interface (Oliver)
+ focusing on commands which are in the default UI for now
+ based on the generated wiki page: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/DispatchCommands
+ housekeeping after translations (ohallot)
+ Linguistics and unecesssary translations.
+ Guides
+ support for review by community members (ohallot)
+ Bugzilla Documentation statistics
269(269) bugs open
+ Updates:
BZ changes 1 week 1 month 3 months 12 months
created 10(4) 19(0) 72(2) 298(0)
commented 18(12) 49(1) 236(11) 1090(11)
resolved 3(3) 6(2) 32(2) 166(3)
+ top 10 contributors:
Stéphane Guillou made 19 changes in 1 month, and 348 changes in 1 year
Ilmari Lauhakangas made 18 changes in 1 month, and 124 changes in 1 year
Olivier Hallot made 12 changes in 1 month, and 443 changes in 1 year
Nabet, Julien made 8 changes in 1 month, and 39 changes in 1 year
aswath t made 7 changes in 1 month, and 7 changes in 1 year
steve made 4 changes in 1 month, and 18 changes in 1 year
Judi made 2 changes in 1 month, and 2 changes in 1 year
Dennis Roczek made 1 changes in 1 month, and 1 changes in 1 year
Elisabeth Dapper made 1 changes in 1 month, and 1 changes in 1 year
David Liontooth made 1 changes in 1 month, and 1 changes in 1 year
* UX Update (Heiko)
+ Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
258(258) (topicUI) bugs open, 58(58) (needsUXEval) needs to be evaluated by the UXteam
+ Updates:
BZ changes 1 week 1 month 3 months 12 months
added 10(7) 13(-1) 20(0) 44(-1)
commented 73(46) 196(15) 485(24) 2323(-1)
removed 0(0) 0(0) 1(0) 19(-1)
resolved 6(-4) 33(-2) 88(2) 330(0)
+ top 10 contributors:
Heiko Tietze made 118 changes in 1 month, and 1395 changes in 1 year
Stéphane Guillou made 66 changes in 1 month, and 507 changes in 1 year
Eyal Rozenberg made 44 changes in 1 month, and 335 changes in 1 year
Kaganski, Mike made 28 changes in 1 month, and 143 changes in 1 year
Bogdan B made 16 changes in 1 month, and 111 changes in 1 year
Ilmari Lauhakangas made 14 changes in 1 month, and 216 changes in 1 year
Vernon, Stuart Foote made 14 changes in 1 month, and 413 changes in 1 year
ady made 13 changes in 1 month, and 107 changes in 1 year
Fortin Tam, Jean-François made 11 changes in 1 month, and 16 changes in 1 year
Dieter made 9 changes in 1 month, and 240 changes in 1 year
+ [Bug 156182] FORMATTING Automatic text color can be unreadable with
darker cell colors
+ [Bug 55848] FormControls : Can't modify the size of a check box
-> + [Bug 155675] Accessibility Request -- Whisper OpenAI
+ resolved as wontfix for now, prefer it as an extension instead
+ [Bug 157522] As we now have a Comment style, remove/redirect
"Format all comments..."
+ [Bug 157518] Improve password security UX
+ [Bug 157501] Presentation Minimizer wizard dialog needs Help button
-> + Cursor goes beyond margins when typing spaces at the end of a line
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=155494
+ proposing an option to wrap break for spaces
+ compatible with Word, but otherwise poor UX
+ would e.g. indenting a single line
+ it was possible to do this in Word in the past
+ comments are welcome
+ would this be a per-document setting? (Miklos)
+ would store it in the user profile (Heiko)
+ no concerns (Michael S)
* Crash Testing (Caolan)
+ 13(-9) import failure, 0(+0) export failures
- now on Debian 12 for newer toolchain
- various old crashes are now fixed
- some new issues
- common crash on exit from embedded chart seems to be an old issue newly reproducible with newer toolchain/os
-> fix submitted to gerrit
+ 6 coverity issues
- not sure what "double_initialization" is trying to tell me in cid#1546386 "API usage error"
+ 2 ossfuzz issues, no crashes
* Crash Reporting (Xisco)
+ https://crashreport.libreoffice.org is not responding. No data available
* Mentoring (Hossein)
+ Updated some of the LibOCon 2023 workshop presentation files
+ Added a new blog post for publishing the workshop slides
LibOCon 2023 workshop presentation slides
https://dev.blog.documentfoundation.org/?p=947
+ Outreachy applicants coming
committer... 1 week 1 month 3 months 12 months
open 62(17) 99(2) 152(-4) 210(1)
reviews 216(-10) 1036(-200) 3300(-108) 11558(56)
merged 206(37) 891(-98) 2952(-128) 12662(53)
abandoned 8(4) 40(-20) 144(2) 641(7)
own commits 159(60) 612(-45) 2032(-30) 9702(14)
review commits 45(10) 172(-7) 614(-14) 3041(16)
contributor... 1 week 1 month 3 months 12 months
open 20(-6) 61(5) 95(4) 123(6)
reviews 574(76) 2088(-202) 6850(-280) 30522(-24)
merged 9(-4) 47(-15) 210(-10) 2121(-44)
abandoned 7(-7) 32(-1) 204(-1) 618(-7)
own commits 11(-7) 60(-2) 211(-10) 1102(3)
review commits 0(0) 0(0) 0(0) 0(0)
+ easyHack statistics:
needsDevEval 8(8) needsUXEval 1(1) cleanup_comments 319(319)
total 395(395) assigned 20(20) open 350(350)
+ top 10 contributors:
Stéphane Guillou made 8 patches in 1 month, and 37 patches in 1 year
Srebotnjak, Martin made 4 patches in 1 month, and 20 patches in 1 year
Sahil Gautam made 4 patches in 1 month, and 10 patches in 1 year
Dan Horák made 4 patches in 1 month, and 4 patches in 1 year
Bogdan B made 3 patches in 1 month, and 97 patches in 1 year
Adam Seskunas made 3 patches in 1 month, and 4 patches in 1 year
Ankit Kumar Jaipuriar made 3 patches in 1 month, and 3 patches in 1 year
Armin Le Grand (allotropia) made 3 patches in 1 month, and 70 patches in 1 year
Priyadarshi, Apurva made 2 patches in 1 month, and 2 patches in 1 year
Montane, Joan made 2 patches in 1 month, and 2 patches in 1 year
+ top 10 reviewers:
Caolán McNamara made 118 review comments in 1 month, and 566 in 1 year
Thorsten Behrens made 86 review comments in 1 month, and 468 in 1 year
Xisco Fauli made 86 review comments in 1 month, and 764 in 1 year
Ilmari Lauhakangas made 78 review comments in 1 month, and 406 in 1 year
Michael Stahl made 72 review comments in 1 month, and 1152 in 1 year
Vajna, Miklos made 68 review comments in 1 month, and 894 in 1 year
Hossein made 60 review comments in 1 month, and 278 in 1 year
Nabet, Julien made 58 review comments in 1 month, and 966 in 1 year
Grandin, Noel made 50 review comments in 1 month, and 570 in 1 year
Kelemen, Gabor made 38 review comments in 1 month, and 92 in 1 year
+ Patches automatically abandoned:
tdf#127293 Add Excel2021 function XLOOKUP to Calc [WIP] ( Winfried Donkers )
- https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/131905
tdf#127293 Prepare for Excel function XLOOKUP in Calc ( Winfried Donkers )
- https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/148124
* Commit Access
+ None
* Developer Certification (Stephan/Miklos/Thorsten/László)
+ resting since: 1 weeks (limit: 20 weeks)
* Jenkins / CI update (Cloph)
gerrit_android_aarch64 jobs: 118 ok: 117 ko: 0 fail ratio: 0.00% mean_ok: 9 ( 11) median_ok: 6 ( 7)
gerrit_android_arm jobs: 118 ok: 114 ko: 2 fail ratio: 1.69% mean_ok: 7 ( 9) median_ok: 5 ( 5)
gerrit_android_x86 jobs: 118 ok: 116 ko: 0 fail ratio: 0.00% mean_ok: 7 ( 9) median_ok: 4 ( 6)
gerrit_android_x86_64 jobs: 118 ok: 112 ko: 3 fail ratio: 2.54% mean_ok: 7 ( 9) median_ok: 4 ( 5)
gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil jobs: 239 ok: 195 ko: 36 fail ratio: 15.06% mean_ok: 36 ( 37) median_ok: 40 ( 40)
gerrit_linux_gcc_release jobs: 280 ok: 232 ko: 32 fail ratio: 11.43% mean_ok: 17 ( 17) median_ok: 14 ( 14)
gerrit_mac jobs: 239 ok: 216 ko: 8 fail ratio: 3.35% mean_ok: 47 ( 47) median_ok: 42 ( 42)
gerrit_windows jobs: 251 ok: 168 ko: 65 fail ratio: 25.90% mean_ok: 65 ( 68) median_ok: 50 ( 50)
gerrit_master_ml jobs: 301 ok: 148 ko: 122 fail ratio: 40.53% mean_ok: 82 ( 82) median_ok: 66 ( 67)
gerrit_master jobs: 34 ok: 18 ko: 11 fail ratio: 32.35% mean_ok: 61 ( 61) median_ok: 51 ( 51)
gerrit_master_seq jobs: 266 ok: 130 ko: 110 fail ratio: 41.35% mean_ok: 85 ( 85) median_ok: 69 ( 69)
+ https://dev-www.libreoffice.org/tmp/gerrit_231005.html
+ tests that failed more than twice in last seven days
3 Killed by the kill-wrapper gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil_branch
3 CppunitTest_sfx2_misc gerrit_linux_gcc_release
3 CppunitTest_starmath_qa_cppunit gerrit_windows
4 UITest_sw_navigator gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
5 CppunitTest_sw_ooxmlexport17 gerrit_mac
7 Killed by the kill-wrapper gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
35 CppunitTest_sc_subsequent_filters_test3 gerrit_windows
-> Recent regression. First failure https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/157430 ?
+ or was it cea900fe9864bbc5314415cb369fc7b6111cd050 ?
+ CppunitTest_sc_subsequent_filters_test3 failure is new, but otherwise looks good
* What’s cooking (Miklos)
+ multi-page floating tables in Writer, see tdf#157119 for details (Miklos)
+ JDK bump to 17 (Michael W)
+ https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/155827
+ still waiting for some macOS builders to be updated
+ a11y update (Michael W)
+ did some NVDA and Accerciser improvements, helps libreoffice indirectly
+ ItemSet rework (Thorsten)
+ crashtesting problems are now addressed
+ more work in progress, see gerrit
* QA update (Xisco)
+ UNCONFIRMED: 1133 (-45)
+ enhancements: 281 (-3)
+ needsUXEval: 12 (+6)
+ haveBackTrace: 10 (-1)
+ needsDevAdvice: 35 (+0)
+ documentation: 2 (-2)
+ android: 0 (+0)
+ iOS: 0 (+0)
+ Online: 11 (+0)
+ Most pressing bugs:
New:
+ Group selection does not work with raster images in Writer (Shift + Click nor rectangle selection)
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34438
+ what to do with this? (Xisco)
+ could tender it (Stephane)
+ think we used to have an idea to remove Writer images + improve draw images instead, but just an idea (Michael S)
+ we had it as "Unify Writer and Draw Images" (Caolan)
+ was in 2022 Tender ideas (with comment from Regina): https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Budget2022#Unify_Writer_and_Draw_Images
Old:
Fixed:
+ FILESAVE: DOCX: Text is converted to RTL when open with MSO
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=157598
+ Commit reverted
+ Re-opened: tdf#155470 - Numbers in RTL document change to Latin after saving to docx
+ Inherited from OOo and annoying for RTL users
+ New high severity bugs of the week:
+ Undoing the first applied cell formatting only works for column A
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=154044
+ bisected to Lubos
+ EDITING: cell range selection modified when opening Calc's "Define Database Range" dialog
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=157211
+ bisected to Lubos
+ FORMATTING:Inconsistent underlining of text in different fonts (see comment 6)
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=68573
+ not marked as a regression
+ would like to fix one of the reopened bugs in Writer (Hossein)
+ but need help regarding direction handling in Writer
+ no idea how to store the direction data, get it back, etc.
+ might be a good idea to mail the dev list with your research result so far (Miklos)
* libcmis -- new release? (Caolan)
+ who is able to do that?
+ original maintainer is inactive
+ if you talk about the github project, then have permission (Cloph)
+ do we have the capacity to cut a release? (Caolan)
+ yes, have the permissions (Cloph)
+ wonder if the new Fedora maintainer would be interested in stepping up as a maintainer there (Caolan)
+ Cloph to grant permission for Caolan to cut a release, then take care of one release at least?
AI: do this, so Caolan can merge PRs, etc. (Cloph)
* QA stats (Stéphane)
+ Some interesting bugs reviewed / consolidated:
+ Custom image area fill gone from list when file reopened: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=125969
+ Wrong chart labels / tooltips / linked cell depending on source sort: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=85493 and https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37407
+ QA Dashboard data updated: https://stragu.shinyapps.io/lo_qa_dashboard/
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
+121 +2 (-149) overall)
many thanks to the top bug squashers:
Stéphane Guillou (stragu) 34
QA Administrators 19
Buovjaga 17
Heiko Tietze 7
m.a.riosv 6
Kohei Yoshida 4
László Németh 4
Alex Thurgood 3
Gabor Kelemen (allotropia) 3
Jim Raykowski 3
+ top 10 bugs reporters:
Xisco Faulí 8
Eyal Rozenberg 7
Gabor Kelemen (allotropia) 4
Gerald Pfeifer 4
Rafael Lima 4
Regina Henschel 4
Stéphane Guillou (stragu) 3
Elmar 2
Sciuriware 2
Buovjaga 1
+ top 10 bugs fixers:
Stéphane Guillou 9
Kohei Yoshida 4
Németh, László 4
Grandin, Noel 3
Heiko Tietze 3
Jim Raykowski 3
Caolán McNamara 2
Xisco Fauli 2
خالد حسني 2
*UNKNOWN* 1
+ top 10 bugs confirmers:
Stéphane Guillou 44
Ilmari Lauhakangas 19
m.a.riosv 12
Heiko Tietze 11
Xisco Fauli 10
Henschel, Regina 3
Kelemen, Gabor 3
*UNKNOWN* 2
Bogdan B 2
Dennis Roczek 2
* Bisected bugs open: keyword 'bisected'
+ more accurate - down to a single commit.
+ http://bit.ly/2dyIfDy
+
done by:
Stéphane Guillou 7
Xisco Fauli 7
Bogdan B 3
Raal 3
Ilmari Lauhakangas 2
Kelemen, Gabor 2
Kira Tubo 1
Sophie Sipasseuth 1
* Bibisected bugs open: keyword 'bibisected'
+ http://bit.ly/2cSCXlS
+
done by:
Stéphane Guillou 8
Xisco Fauli 7
Bogdan B 3
Raal 3
Ilmari Lauhakangas 2
Kelemen, Gabor 2
Kira Tubo 1
Sophie Sipasseuth 1
* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
+ 1224(+17) bugs open of 12858(+34) total 15(+2) high prio.
done by:
Stéphane Guillou 10
Xisco Fauli 7
Ilmari Lauhakangas 3
Raal 3
m.a.riosv 2
ady 1
Bogdan B 1
Dennis Roczek 1
greg.diehl.gtd 1
Kelemen, Gabor 1
* ~Component count net * high severity regressions
+ http://bit.ly/1HWHb3E
Writer - 8(+0)
Calc - 3(+0)
LibreOffice - 2(+1)
Printing and PDF export - 1(+0)
UI - 1(+1)
by OS:
All - 10(+1)
Linux - 3(+1)
Mac OS X - 0(+0)
Windows - 2(+0)
* ~Component count net * all regressions
+ http://bit.ly/1BUdI8i
Writer: other - 428(+10)
Calc - 228(+2)
Impress - 137(+3)
LibreOffice - 50(+1)
Draw - 47(+0)
Crashes - 46(+1)
Writer: docx filter - 41(+0)
Base - 40(-2)
Borders - 36(+0)
UI - 36(+1)
Writer: perf - 33(+0)
Writer: other filter - 31(+0)
Printing and PDF export - 26(+1)
RTL - 23(+0)
Chart - 22(+0)
filters and storage - 18(+1)
BASIC - 17(+0)
Writer: doc filter - 15(+0)
graphics stack - 12(+0)
Formula Editor - 5(+0)
framework - 4(+0)
Extensions - 2(+0)
sdk - 2(+0)
Linguistic - 1(+0)
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